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Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de writes:
Am 22.02.2011 00:10, schrieb Peter Budny:
Here's another issue that ought to be much easier to solve, but hasn't
been: the relation analyzer.
http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyze.jsp?relationId=36947
That particular relation follows the correct
Anders Arnholm and...@arnholm.se writes:
2011-02-21 16:03, Peter Budny skrev:
Those of you who think all automated or semi-automated data
contributions are harmful to OSM are dooming this project to never be
able to grow to become a leading source of mapping data.
The bigger the data base
don't even know how to end this e-mail. I'm so distressed by what
I'm reading that it makes me want to just walk away from the whole
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Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes:
Hi,
On 02/21/2011 04:03 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
Those of you who think all automated or semi-automated data
contributions are harmful to OSM are dooming this project to never be
able to grow to become a leading source of mapping data
is tedious and easily performed by
computers.
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Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com writes:
You don't need a route relation to do that just a ref tag.
Kevin
On 21 February 2011 17:40, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote:
Navigation, for starters : turn-by-turn indications
Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
I find this discussion very distasteful.
Peter,
I'm sorry that you feel that way. Can you tell us what specifically
you find distasteful? Is it the issue of automated edits
Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org writes:
Peter Budny wrote:
OSM right now has very little tools to support editing. Compare this to
text processing [..]
This thread certainly has something to do with advanced version
control for geographic data. That said, a discussion that happened
SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk writes:
On 21/02/2011 18:03, Peter Budny wrote:
Okay, even if we accept that -- and many OSM mappers do not,
They've clearly not heard the posh woman inside my satnav then - she
has no problems pronouncing name and ref information on roads (she
can't
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
Peter Budny wrote:
I really don't mind whether it's route relations or ref tags. The
problem is that NEITHER is finished. To get to my house, I have to get
on State Route 1966, then 1267. Neither of these are marked as such on
the map, and I'm
Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
If automated edits are problematic, it's not because the robot
apocalypse is coming. It's because automated edits are hacked together
due to a lack of tools and support in OSM
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Josh, this sounds great! Unfortunately, you're headed in to really new
territory. As far as I can tell, OSM doesn't have any methods in place
for merging data in any meaningful
is 'yes', and...
Tagwatch currently shows 41 keys that match cycleway:* and are NOT of
the form cycleway:locality name. That's a lot of special cases to
encode in the renderer... special cases which aren't a problem when
using relations.
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, there is the possibility for things to get screwed
up. Strings are the ultimate vehicle for hiding information.
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Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.com writes:
The only thing that relations add (in terms of tagging) is an order of
magnitude of complexity.
There is no technical reason
?
As far as I'm concerned, the difference in what's required to tag things
is minimal between these concerns. Therefore, wouldn't it make the most
sense to choose whichever is programmatically the easiest and most
flexible to deal with?
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Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
That doesn't work; there are cases where it's ambiguous. If you look at
[1], US-278 runs along North Avenue (bottom) and Ponce de Leon Avenue
(top), connected by Monroe Drive
(sorry for the crossposting, but this really applies globally, as well
as for recent discussions on the talk-us list)
Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 27
compared to the rest of the world. Can we use it
anyway? :)
What about making it network=US:state or network=US:county? That
way it's easy to tell US states apart from states in other countries.
Does that ruin its simplicity and elegance?
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automatically is kind of redundant and thus
troublesome... except that we'd have to have so many data sources (one
per country, roughly) that it would be impossible to maintain. So just
sticking it in tags and updating it manually/semi-automatically is
probably okay.)
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with the outline of the state
have too much detail to be legible when they're small, which is why I
almost always see them rendered as a circle/oval. I'd say that's pretty
standard across the US.
Maybe at the very highest zoom levels we could switch to the
state-specific shields?
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probably would indicate the
township boundaries on most maps in a similar (though somewhat less
prominent) manner to county boundaries - at least at certain zoom
levels.
It sounds like you may have just found a use for the missing
admin_level=7 in the US.
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as another, and which have an unclear relationship.
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. The question is, what happens
when both a way and a relation have name= set, and they don't match?
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Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
It's certainly a bad idea to add the auto-created relations to the
database
You're not the first person to say this. You're also
that I've missed.
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Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
This seems relevant to this thread, although it's not in reply to any
particular part of it:
As part of a school project, I'm creating a robot that will use the
TIGER metadata
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
TIGER's state highway data is pretty horrible. For example, in
Florida, there are many so-called state roads that were given
changes to support it.
But in any case, I'm much more in favor of consistency, even if the
format we choose isn't the one I would prefer.
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planning to
upload directly to the database; as a compromise I'm planning to publish
changesets and let people integrate them manually.
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on the mailing lists 2 weeks ago because I wanted to ask a
question to dev. If you come in to OSM by reading the wiki, it appears
as though all the discussion happens on talk pages. There's nothing at
all indicating that the mailing list is where it's at.
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of information, but that's
not obvious from reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contact
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would be really useful for indicating which map features (traffic
signals, motorway junctions, etc) are really one logical entity, and
should be represented as such on the map at higher zoom levels.
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Currently both are in use, but I think it would be a lot easier for
future code if we pick one and move towards it from now on.
~ Peter Budny
P.S. Before you write to tell me bots aren't welcome... stop. We
already had this discussion out on dev. I'm going to be developing
against a sandbox
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