Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, (taking this to legal-talk from talk where it doesn't belong) On 02/13/12 00:00, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: I accepted the license, and also ticked the box that said I was happy with my contributions to be considered public domain. Hypothetically, if some years in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/13/2012 12:53 PM, Simon Poole wrote: While I've expressed my displeasure with every revision of the CTs after 1.0 for exactly your reasoning, I don't believe that the situation is quite as bad as you paint it. Come April the 1st the only extra string attached to data that is in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.02.2012 14:32, schrieb Frederik Ramm: . - mapper contacts government asking for data - government says here, you can have that, but it may only be distributed under ODbL or CC-BY-SA, nothing else - mapper contributes data to OSM without even *telling* us that there is this additional

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/2/13 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: PS: essentially such an import should never get pass the community discussion part in the first place. FYI: In Italy there are currently some imports going on, where the data is licensed cc-by-2.5 and there are also other imports of the past under this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
Well essentially CC-by only imposes attribution so it is doable. But in any case: is the import listed in the import catalogue? If not, I would respectfully ask the DWG to summarily delete the data (the enforce bit of my previous posting). Simon Am 13.02.2012 15:22, schrieb Martin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Well essentially CC-by only imposes attribution so it is doable. But in any case: is the import listed in the import catalogue? If not, I would respectfully ask the DWG to summarily delete the data (the enforce bit of my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
On the same topic: I've started work on going over the import catalogue (giving a lot of room for stuff that is under discussion or clearly ok (Corine)) and moving entries that either will or should go away with the licence transition (note green is -good- aka will be automatically deleted),

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 13 February 2012 12:53, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: While I've expressed my displeasure with every revision of the CTs after 1.0 for exactly your reasoning, I don't believe that the situation is quite as bad as you paint it. Come April the 1st the only extra string attached to data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.02.2012 17:44, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: (I assume you mean CC-By-SA) Simon, I would like to know what your interpretation of the current Contributor Terms version is, I know what LWG's interpretation is from their meeting minutes and it must be different from your interpretation.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.02.2012 18:55, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: Take the example of NearMap TOS, tracing NearMap (specially aided by local knowledge) is not something we tend to call an import. It is not an import, but it is an incredible special, special case (and one that is no longer an

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread James Livingston
On 14 February 2012 03:17, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: I believe there is some contention as to what in 1.a current licence terms refers to, but it is at least consistent with the document to assume that it refers to the licences listed in 3., so both CC-by-SA 2.0 and ODbL + DbCL1.0 ,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.02.2012 12:33, schrieb Frederik Ramm: This can be read - as Simon seems to do it - to mean the CTs guarantee that required attribution will survive any future licence changes, but I think he's on thin ice there; in my reading, the CTs promise that OSMF will provide attribution, not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 13 February 2012 18:17, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Am 13.02.2012 17:44, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: (I assume you mean CC-By-SA) Simon, I would like to know what your interpretation of the current Contributor Terms version is, I know what LWG's interpretation is from their meeting