Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Martijn van Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've been warming up as many of my colleagues to OSM as possible, and sometimes this comes back to me. Being GIS people, they have GIS requirements, and OSM was not devised specifically with GIS requirements

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:28:32PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, The only exceptions apparently being that self-intersecting polygons are allowed in OSM. He found a couple hundred in the Netherlands' OSM data. Is this something that is being considered? I guess it would be easy

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, yesterday a colleague approached me asking why OSM data doesn't comply to the Simple Feature specification[1] I guess the honest answer is very likely that most people invovled in designing anything at OSM have no prior GIS experience. Most of us are amateurs. We design stuff that we think

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, The only exceptions apparently being that self-intersecting polygons are allowed in OSM. The wiki page you cited says In general, a 2D geometry is simple if it contains no self-intersection. - what do they mean by 2D geometry? Specifically, would a self-intersecting *line* be allowed?

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2008, Christopher Schmidt escribió: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:28:32PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: yesterday a colleague approached me asking why OSM data doesn't comply to the Simple Feature specification[...] Is this something that is being considered? I

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Martijn van Exel
Op 17 apr 2008, om 00:07 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschreven: Hi, yesterday a colleague approached me asking why OSM data doesn't comply to the Simple Feature specification[1] I guess the honest answer is very likely that most people invovled in designing anything at OSM have no

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:58:21PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: Op 16 apr 2008, om 23:41 heeft Christopher Schmidt het volgende geschreven: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:28:32PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: It seems likely that the netherlands 'self intersecting polygons' are simply the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:19:19AM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2008, Christopher Schmidt escribió: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:28:32PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: yesterday a colleague approached me asking why OSM data doesn't comply to the Simple

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:15:16AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, The only exceptions apparently being that self-intersecting polygons are allowed in OSM. The wiki page you cited says In general, a 2D geometry is simple if it contains no self-intersection. - what do they mean by 2D

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 00:07 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: So much for OGC stuff in general. About Simple Features specifically, I guess there simply was nobody who wanted to do the extra work. I remember Artem complaining about self-intersecting stuff once and I think the offending items are