Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Mar 2009, at 21:23, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter - are you really sure about geograph? AIUI only the photos are CC-BY-SA, the geolocation is OS-derived. Please check. Barry pointed me at this post from 2006 when they nailed the situation down:

[OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Lester Caine
While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be applauded, many of us are no longer contributing to wikipedia because of their propensity to kill of material that is not 'noteworthy'! On a number of occasions in the past I have linked to articles only later to find the 'censors'

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Lester, You could take a look at includipedia, which is basically a fork of the wikipedia to become an inclusive version of the wikipedia. Shaun On 18 Mar 2009, at 08:53, Lester Caine wrote: While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be applauded, many of us are no

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote: While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be applauded, many of us are no longer contributing to wikipedia because of their propensity to kill of material that is not 'noteworthy'! On a number of occasions in the past I

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/3/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote: While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be applauded, many of us are no longer contributing to wikipedia because of their propensity to kill of material that is not 'noteworthy'!

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: Wikipedia have their whole concept of notability. We have the concept that if it exists you can map it. This isn't really compatible. Then perhaps we need to, as Lester suggests, have our own information base? Either link to includipedia or

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread anonymous guy
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: Then perhaps we need to, as Lester suggests, have our own information base? Either link to includipedia or else link to our own wiki -- which would redirect to Wikipedia if no such article exists. I agree with the idea of

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Lester Caine
These should have been to the list ... pigging 'redirect'! Shaun McDonald wrote: Hi Lester, You could take a look at includipedia, which is basically a fork of the wikipedia to become an inclusive version of the wikipedia. I have seen that - but it seems to have stalled? I've never been

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Lester Caine
These should have been to the list ... pigging 'redirect'! Shaun McDonald wrote: Hi Philip, What's the status of Includipedia? Did the import every get fully completed? As long as you use 'search' Includipedia actually looks quite a complete copy of wikipedia and none of the model railway

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Tim 'avatar' Bartel
Hi, 2009/3/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote: On a number of occasions in the past I have linked to articles only later to find the 'censors' message at the end of a link :( and I know we have had this discussion in the past where other OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Lester Caine
Tim 'avatar' Bartel wrote: Hi, 2009/3/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote: On a number of occasions in the past I have linked to articles only later to find the 'censors' message at the end of a link :( and I know we have had this discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: This is a serious enough issue that it should be escalated to the OSMF. OSMF telling the Wikikpedia people what to do would be like the Wikipedia people telling us what to do. We'd laugh at them and go on. A Wikipedia link from OSM is just like any other web link -

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 19 March 2009 12:00 AM To: Russ Nelson Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia? Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: This is a serious enough issue that it should be escalated to the OSMF. OSMF telling the Wikikpedia people what to do would