Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-26 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/26 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 12:04, Peter Wendorff wrote: I'm not sure wether that's a better approach you describe here. Of course it's a building - but also it's a museum. So building=museum works. well, almost everything works if there is consistency and

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 23/10/2010 22:10, David Murn wrote: A hairdresser and museum, are currently amenity. I agree with you that museum should be amenity, although for some silly reason it's listed under the anachronistic tag of tourism. As I said on the tagging forum: Tourism is a tag that shouldn't be used

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/25 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Tourism is a tag that shouldn't be used as a primary. Primary tags should be used to describe what it is, not whom it *might* be used by. what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag.

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 25 October 2010 11:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Tourism is a tag that shouldn't be used as a primary. Primary tags should be used to describe what it is, not whom it *might* be used by. what about tourism=information

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/25 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information no, please not. the building key is (and should IMHO be) used for

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 10:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information no, please not.

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 10:23, Markus Lindholm wrote: On 25 October 2010 11:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com: Tourism is a tag that shouldn't be used as a primary. Primary tags should be used to describe what it is, not whom it *might* be

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 25.10.2010 12:22, schrieb Dave F.: On 25/10/2010 10:23, Markus Lindholm wrote: On 25 October 2010 11:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com: Tourism is a tag that shouldn't be used as a primary. Primary tags should be used to

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/25 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 10:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag.

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com wrote: What constitutes a primary tag? A tag which is meant to be exclusive of other primary tags. To avoid infinite recursion, amenity is a primary tag. How should one know which tags are considered primary when

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Let's take the following entities: A museum showing old buildings arranged to villages from the far past (there are a lot of in Germany, but also in other countries). As that's not a building (it includes

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Dave F. wrote: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information And if it's not a building? -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
- It'd be a whole lot easier for parsers if we just used thing=fire_extinguisher/picnic_table/well/cable_distribution_cabinet/memorial/fountain/street_lamp. Or amenity=fire_extinguisher/picnic_table/well/cable_distribution_cabinet/memorial/fountain /street_lamp. In other words, the class tag.

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 16:27, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Dave F. wrote: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information And if it's not a building? Please read all of

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 14:00, Anthony wrote: Why tag all museums with tourism=yes when you can just put a single line in the search engine which says that museums (or perhaps museums without access=no) are places for tourism. Good point, well made. ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 12:04, Peter Wendorff wrote: I'm not sure wether that's a better approach you describe here. Of course it's a building - but also it's a museum. So building=museum works. There are lot's of museums without being a building. Please see the point at the end which you +1. Yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-23 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/22 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 19:06 +0200, Claudius wrote: Am 22.10.2010 18:28, David Murn: One way I heard it described, is an amenity is something youre likely to want to navigate to.  While that description is a bit vague, it seems to fit most

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-23 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 13:09 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/22 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: If you were visiting someone in an out-of-state prison, it certainly would be somewhere one might want to navigate to, the same way you might want to navigate to an ATM, fuel station

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-22 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 07:55 +0200, Peter Körner wrote: Am 21.10.2010 23:29, schrieb Sean Horgan: The definition of such a tag/key that is so common the database (3+% according to taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/amenity), needs more than a single line definition. Do you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-22 Thread Claudius
Am 22.10.2010 18:28, David Murn: On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 07:55 +0200, Peter Körner wrote: Am 21.10.2010 23:29, schrieb Sean Horgan: The definition of such a tag/key that is so common the database (3+% according to taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/amenity), needs more than a single

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-22 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 19:06 +0200, Claudius wrote: Am 22.10.2010 18:28, David Murn: One way I heard it described, is an amenity is something youre likely to want to navigate to. While that description is a bit vague, it seems to fit most current applications of the key. Like

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-22 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/22/2010 03:16 PM, David Murn wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 19:06 +0200, Claudius wrote: You could propose that footpaths should no longer use the highway= tag, as they’re not highways, using a similar argument. Sure they are. From Wikipedia: A highway is a public road, especially a major

[OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-21 Thread Sean Horgan
Hello everyone! From searching through the tagging mailing list archives, the Amenity key has its share of supporters and detractors and the topic seems to frequently rear its head. I can see both sides and like many of the tagging issues, it comes down to semantics. I think a lot of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Körner
Am 21.10.2010 23:29, schrieb Sean Horgan: The definition of such a tag/key that is so common the database (3+% according to taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/amenity), needs more than a single line definition. Do you have a suggestion? Peter