Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-21 Thread ThomasB
Pavel Melnikov wrote BTW, how does osm community map territories and borders that are claimed by several countries? There are some cases in Asia, including mentioned China borders. Afaik, you can recognise such borders only be watching them and notice that they are subject to vadalism from

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-21 Thread Walter Nordmann
something you all should be aware of: *Chinese customs to seize devices with illegal maps* http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2012-10/16/c_131910411.htm Regrds walter -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann
On 19.10.2012 15:22, Christian Quest wrote: Next SOTM in China ? You want ho hold a free conference in a non free country with strange rules for GPS and Geo-issues? Just to remember: the FOSS4G 2012 Beijing has been cancelled... Regarding these rules for GPS (as far as I'm aware of them): *

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Christian Quest
Humor is definitely not universal... Just in case, I confirm that the first part of my post about governance contained no humor. But maybe governance is a censored word and the whole sentence has been trashed for some readers and it looks I'm the only one to post about this. (disclaimer: traces

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 20.10.2012 13:32, schrieb Christian Quest: Humor is definitely not universal... It would be nice to add a smiley, I can't see your face... ;-) Have a nice weekend, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
So, entering China with any GPS-capable phones is then a bit like entering the USAID HQ office (and I assume similarly a number of other gov offices) a few years back when they didn't allow any cameras into the building -- please leave all your BlackBerries and other smartphones with cameras here

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann
On 20.10.2012 16:54, Jaakko wrote: So, entering China with any GPS-capable phones [...] This time just due to the GPS. I'm sure they can't track that sufficiently, so currently I rate the danger as low for that. But my guess (!) is that if you behave conspicuous somewhere with your mobile

[OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread Michael Collinson
FYI http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-10/17/content_15822970.htm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread John Sturdy
How long does it take to check a map of China for accuracy? ;-) With the speed Chinese building companies can work at, I reckon at least one new city could be built in the time it takes to check the whole map. The check really seems to be that various points of contention are to be shown in the

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread Dongpo
The accuracy of the China's mapping authority focuses on checking whether the territory of China is correct and completed. In the China authority point of view, the correct and completed China's maps should include Taiwan, and some controversial areas such as Diaoyu Islands. That's the accuracy

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread pavithran
On 19 October 2012 16:15, Dongpo don...@iis.sinica.edu.tw wrote: That's the accuracy they concern. Even though those are not facts, they still persist to claim those areas are belong to China. Accuracy!? That means some of the Indian borders with china should be watched ! They do have some

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread Pavel Melnikov
BTW, how does osm community map territories and borders that are claimed by several countries? There are some cases in Asia, including mentioned China borders. And also, the article in question has bold and determined tone, but can China authorities legally restrict osm community from drawing

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread Christian Quest
Thanks Mike for this very interesting example of [closed|mis|non|top-down] governance... 2012/10/19 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz: FYI http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-10/17/content_15822970.htm Next SOTM in China ? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France -

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 October 2012 16:15, Dongpo don...@iis.sinica.edu.tw wrote: That's the accuracy they concern. Even though those are not facts, they still persist to claim those areas are belong to China. Accuracy!? That means some of the Indian borders with