Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/10 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:    I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any solutions to record decent GPS traces on trails under forest canopy data collection other than a high end professional GPS datalogger? Not all data loggers are the same some have a

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you have some time it will be an option to wait for the leaves falling in autumn (seriously). What if they are evergreen and don't loose their leaves in autumn? :)

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Mike N.
You might be able to use sat overlays to estimate the true path. won't be more precise though (if you really mean sat and not aerial photo). In the end you would be tracing from aerial and use the track just as an reminder. For this case, I checked with the Yahoo imagery, and the canopy

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Stephen Hope
I've done some rain-forest hiking, and I've noticed similar results. If you really want to see some wandering tracks, try hiking along the base of some cliffs, in dense forest. I have noticed that the errors do seems to be less the faster I'm moving. If I stand in one place for a while, the path

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Mike N.
-- From: Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com I've done some rain-forest hiking, and I've noticed similar results. If you really want to see some wandering tracks, try hiking along the base of some cliffs, in dense forest. The area I was in was in a

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Houle
Stephen Hope wrote: I've done some rain-forest hiking, and I've noticed similar results. If you really want to see some wandering tracks, try hiking along the base of some cliffs, in dense forest. I have noticed that the errors do seems to be less the faster I'm moving. If I stand in one

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
My Garmin eTrex HCx makes reasonable tracks under forest cover, although the tracks are certainly worse under forest than under a clear sky. It's not the cheapest GPS unit you can get, but it's reasonably priced and it's a great navigator to enjoy both OSM and commercial maps on

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Robert Scott
On Monday 10 August 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: compared to a SiRF III powered the eTrex is pretty lame in accuracy. but it uses less power and runs twice as long on a set of batteries You're thinking of an old eTrex. The new eTrexes (ones with an H in the name) have high sensitivity

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Garmin calls it high sensitivity but thats marketing Maybe better than very old Garmin devices but much worse compared to a SiRF III I have a new Hcx and compared multiple times. Only 60, Oregon, Colorado use a SiRF III and they are much better in accuracy but drain batteries like crazy.

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote: Garmin calls it high sensitivity but thats marketing Maybe better than very old Garmin devices but much worse compared to a SiRF III I have a new Hcx and compared multiple times. Only 60, Oregon, Colorado use

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Liz
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: compared to a SiRF III powered the eTrex is pretty lame in accuracy. but it uses less power and runs twice as long on a set of batteries ok, so I'm in the rich guys list. I have an older etrex, the MSO has the newer etrex with the more accurate

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-10 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: compared to a SiRF III powered the eTrex is pretty lame in accuracy. but it uses less power and runs twice as long on a set of batteries ok, so I'm in the rich guys list. not yet,

[OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-09 Thread Mike N.
I'm using netbook with just your average $30 GPS dongle to collect data. Today I took a 5 mile out-and back hike under dense forest canopy. The GPX traces for the same trail out and back are separated by as much as 100 meters. I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:    I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any solutions to record decent GPS traces on trails under forest canopy data collection other than a high end professional GPS datalogger? If a phone network and the phone

[OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this or know what's going on? cheers, Chris

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

2008-04-18 Thread Jon Stockill
Chris Hill wrote: Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this or know what's going on? I've noticed I've been getting WAAS signals a lot

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

2008-04-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Chris Hill wrote: Sent: 18 April 2008 4:24 PM To: Talk OSM Subject: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

2008-04-18 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this or