Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-16 Thread Jorieke Vyncke
Hi guys, Just adding in the OSM africa mailing list... Jorieke 2017-11-15 14:15 GMT+00:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:26:02 + (UTC) > Pierre Béland wrote: > > > > I we follow the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I initiated in 2013, > >

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:26:02 + (UTC) Pierre Béland wrote: > > I we follow the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I initiated in 2013, > narrow highways should be evaluaed on the type of traffic possible - > highway= residential in residential areas if at least passable by 4 >

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-15 Thread Andrew Buck
I do still use tertiaries and above for higher level roads in accordance with the Highway Tag Africa scheme. I was merely giving an example of how I classify a service road. -AndrewBuck On 11/14/2017 09:48 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > From discussions since 2013 with various african OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-15 Thread Simon Poole
This is an oldie but goldie. North American use of the term "alley" is in practical terms very different than the rest of the world. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley The tagging in OSM (highway=service, service=alley) tends to correspond more to the NA usage than to that elsewhere (which

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Nov 2017, at 22:12, john whelan wrote: > > Some mappers use highway=service generously. I’m also using highway=service with service=alley and width for small residential ways in historic centres (mostly small towns and villages, although

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I was curious to view some photos of these streets. There are several English Wikipedia articles for Ibadan, Nigeria: http://ausleuchtung.ch/geo_wiki/?lat=7.369838460195496=3.9120769500732426=14=en=wiki=10 and several French Wikipedia articles:

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Vao Matua
I agree with Pierre's description of highway=residential and highway=path. I also believe it is a good idea to tag driveways and roads to compounds as *highway=service*. A problem I commonly see in residential areas in Africa is highway=track. It seems to be a little condescending for remote

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Pierre Béland
>From discussions since 2013 with various african OSM communities and other >continents with similar realities, it appears that this wiki page is quite >usefull to help classifiy the highways in these countries.   The objective was to simplify, clarify how to tag highways. Adding pages by

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Gaurav Thapa
Youthmappers initiative actually has a very large presence in Africa and in particular local mappers of Ghana, Uganda and Nigeria are very active. They don't use the talk pages but maybe we can bring them on board to improve https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa or create

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Andrew Buck
Pierre's suggestions are a good guideline in general and I don't have any disagreements with them. I did, however want to expand a bit on the idea of when to use service roads, so here is that... I for one am in favor of additionally making liberal (but careful) use of highway=service. A

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread john whelan
That seems very sensible. Thanks John On 14 November 2017 at 16:26, Pierre Béland wrote: > I we follow the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I initiated in 2013, narrow > highways should be evaluaed on the type of traffic possible > - highway= residential in residential areas if

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread Pierre Béland
I we follow the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I initiated in 2013, narrow highways should be evaluaed on the type of traffic possible - highway= residential in residential areas if at least passable by 4 wheels- highway=path if only motorcycles, bicyles and foot traffic is possible.

[OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

2017-11-14 Thread john whelan
I'm not even sure if this is the best place to raise this but Africa covers a lot of countries. We have some agreement on how to map highways in general Africa but narrow residential highways are a problem. I suspect highway=residential plus a width tag might be best. South Africa I think has