[OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, Is it ever correct for two roads to cross physically, at the same level, but not create a junction between them? The situation I have looks like: C | A---+---B | v | D With apologies for ASCII art. Cars go from A

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Konrad Skeri
In your special case I guess it would be OK to not create a junction. That will however lead to (false) warnings in OSM data validators and there is a chance that someone else will insert that junction later on, so I'll recommend putting the junction there now and use restriction relations. (e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread David Groom
To: Open Street Map mailing list Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads Hi all, Is it ever correct for two roads to cross physically, at the same level, but not create a junction between them? The situation I have looks like

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Groom To: Steve Bennett ; Open Street Map mailing list Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads Yes there should be a node at the crossing. Most of those ways are one way , so routing

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:39 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.netwrote: Alternatively the whole junction restriction could be accomplished as konrad said by a couple of only_straight_on restrictions Ok, I've done that. About time I learnt how to create relations :) Anyone want to check

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Steve Bennett Be careful. The question about the junction node is NOT about routing but about physical modeling. Even if both roads are not allowing turning left or right, you have to add a junction node (and the relations about turning restrictions), othewise we

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Bennett
Thanks Pieren, that's the kind of answer I was looking for: NO it's never a good idea to have two highways cross at the same level without an explicit junction. Steve On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Steve Bennett Be careful. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: With apologies for ASCII art. Cars go from A to B, or from C to D, but they can't turn. It's controlled by traffic lights. So, do I create the junction represented by the +, or just let them cross over? If I create the junction, how do I stop routing

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-junctioning crossing roads

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Swap back to your pushbike, or your legs only, mentally. On foot you can definitely and legally turn left or right. So its a valid junction for pedestrian routing. Ah yes, that's a very valid point. Queens Rd is a horrible road