Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-16 Thread Mike Harris
Hi I've been looking at this thread with interest and it is probably at risk of resurrecting the endless (?) debate about the use of foot-way, path etc. tags. Without expressing any personal view, to avoid reopening that debate, I would merely note that - rightly or wrongly - the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/12 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. have a look at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale for detailed classification.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: So Roy suggests smoothness and you suggest sac_scale. Neither is really definitive. I don't get you here. What do you mean by really definitive? By August 2009 we had 36770 occurencies of sac_scale in our database [1] Probably in the meantime it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
.. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping trolley? Regards, Nick *** WARNING:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/16 nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au: .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping trolley? I'd say to estimate this you should have a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-13 Thread Seventy 7
So mtb:scale=5 would be a vertical cliff? Have you seen the video that plays in the Blacks outdoor shops?? Yes would be the answer! Incredible. -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
(PS I used the S.O.S (Spawn of Satan) tag 'path' , so I'm not sure how many of my trails will work with other stylesheets) path isn't Spawn of Satan! ;-) What is Spawn of Satan, here in the UK at least, is foot=yes. ;-) This is completely ambiguous, either use designated for a designated

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/3/12 Mike N. nice...@att.net: Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need a high quality hiking / biking map in a relatively small region in the US. Maybe http://hikebikemap.de works for you? Cheers Colin ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Mike N.
Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need a high quality hiking / biking map in a relatively small region in the US. Maybe http://hikebikemap.de works for you? I like it as a start; the colors of the main roads are muted which is good. And I like the map legend which is necessary for

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/03/2010 10:23, Nick Whitelegg wrote: (PS I used the S.O.S (Spawn of Satan) tag 'path' , so I'm not sure how many of my trails will work with other stylesheets) path isn't Spawn of Satan! ;-) What is Spawn of Satan, here in the UK at least, is foot=yes. ;-) This is completely

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Lars Ahlzen
Mike N. wrote: I'm very much in favour of improving both the quality of hiking data, and its representation (particularly outside Europe). But do make an effort to consolidate the existing material rather than just adding another layer of paint over the top. Exactly - I'm just at the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 11/03/2010 11:58, Nick Whitelegg a écrit : Hello everyone, Thanks for the responses on this. What I would like to do this year is really try to bring together everyone on the list who is interested in developing OSM software (both web and mobile) for walkers (hikers) so that we can make a

[OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Thanks for the responses on this. What I would like to do this year is really try to bring together everyone on the list who is interested in developing OSM software (both web and mobile) for walkers (hikers) so that we can make a good go of exchanging ideas and developing

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Mike N.
I'm very much in favour of improving both the quality of hiking data, and its representation (particularly outside Europe). But do make an effort to consolidate the existing material rather than just adding another layer of paint over the top. Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Mike N.
(And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike path and a mountain bike track). I added mtb:scale to mountain bike tracks. But around here, even the steepest, roughest terrain is only 1 or 2 out of a scale of 5. I think mtb:scale=3 is something like leaping off 1 meter boulders g

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. For smoothness, use surface=* For width, use width=* (And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going! (And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike path and a mountain bike track). I added mtb:scale to mountain bike tracks. But around here, even the steepest, roughest terrain is only 1 or 2 out