Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Jan 17, 2019, 5:51 PM by openstreet...@stereo.lu: > If you use a special source you can’t share, and the local community > understands and is cool with it, no one is in trouble. > What about someone not from local community attempting to check whatever data import was a copyright violation?

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-21 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Paul: In the Preamble of the guidelines it says "It's not a policy", but you say they are a policy. Cheers, Rafael. O 10/01/19 ás 21:34, Paul Norman escribiu: On 2019-01-10 10:19 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: Since it is on the OSM wiki and there is no statement indicating otherwise does

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-21 Thread Guillaume Rischard
Hi Martijn, I was thinking of disclosed sources that can’t easily be shown, for example, imagery that doesn’t exist yet, or where you have to enter a special agreement to be given access, or out-of-copyright analogue sources that haven’t been digitised. We agree that this should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 17 January 2019, Guillaume Rischard wrote: > > What we mean is that we’ll intervene for edits the community has > issues with, and that we will not intervene for merely not following > the guidelines. Note the guidelines themselves claim that they represent "consensus". Without

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Guillaume, Thanks, that clarifies it for me. Just to be clear, where you mention 'special sources' -- those would still need to be vetted for compatibility with ODbL, and that would need to be done in the open. I don't think anyone, individual or organization, should be able to get away with

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-17 Thread Guillaume Rischard
Hi Martijn, Gladly. I seem to recall that this is also one of the points that you asked questions about during the board meeting. What we mean is that we’ll intervene for edits the community has issues with, and that we will not intervene for merely not following the guidelines. Maybe a few

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
Just saw Dorothea has now created a page for the Guidelines instead of a PDF: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines That is much better. Thanks. Further suggestion: Add a small note there that unofficial translations are available on the OSM wiki (Spanish and

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 14 January 2019, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I am happy to see that the official version has now been published on > the OSMF web site. I changed > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines > accordingly. Seriously? This is the worst variant possible - link to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I am happy to see that the official version has now been published on the OSMF web site. I changed https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines accordingly. -- Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 13:59, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > Could you

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Guillaume, DWG, Thanks for the conclusion. I asked in a different email on this thread to post this on the OSMF web site, to have a permanent, immutable copy that we can refer to when it comes to enforcing / disputes. I am a confused about the statement 'not following the organised editing

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, Could you please put the version that was approved up at https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines ? As it is now, the text as approved is available at https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/1/13/Organised_editing_guidelines_version_20180908.pdf (I assume this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 10 January 2019, Paul Norman wrote: > > We just discussed this internally, the reason we've got them on the > publicly editable wiki even though it's a policy is the number of > links to/from the page make it more useful on the this wiki instead > of the OSMF one. I have no objections

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2019-01-10 10:19 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: Since it is on the OSM wiki and there is no statement indicating otherwise does this mean we can start improving the guidelines now?;-) If you can edit them to be closer to the text approved by the OSMF board ;) We just discussed this

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 10 January 2019, Guillaume Rischard wrote: > The Data Working Group is happy to announce that our new Organised > Editing Guidelines have now been officially put online on the wiki at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines Since it is on the OSM wiki and

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Jan 10, 2019, 4:26 PM by openstreet...@stereo.lu: > I believe that no other project, open or proprietary, has faced this exact > issue before. > AFAIK Wikipedia had (and has) exactly the same problem - ranging from well meaning people (that frequently caused problem) through low-paid people

[OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Guillaume Rischard
The Data Working Group is happy to announce that our new Organised Editing Guidelines have now been officially put online on the wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines I'm happy to answer any questions here. In the meanwhile, here's my updated report. We at