On 28/04/15 05:10, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'd call this mostly a routing presentation issue. If the road name is
the same, I'd want any super sharp curve
to warn me: Tight left in 100 meters, or 15mph left turn ahead.
The very fact of the OSM geometry ought to be
enough to calculate the
On Tue Apr 28 10:10:00 2015 GMT+0100, Lester Caine wrote:
On 28/04/15 05:10, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'd call this mostly a routing presentation issue. If the road name is
the same, I'd want any super sharp curve
to warn me: Tight left in 100 meters, or 15mph left turn ahead.
The very
Agree with that!
On 2015-04-28 11:10, Lester Caine wrote:
On 28/04/15 05:10, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'd call this mostly a routing presentation issue. If the road name is the
same, I'd want any super sharp curve to warn me: Tight left in 100 meters,
or 15mph left turn ahead. The very
FWIW, I just wanted to fix the situation to give you an example, and
someone else was faster, it is already fixed in the way I did suggest
above: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.45290/-1.48908
Cheers,
Martin
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On Sun Apr 26 12:35:57 2015 GMT+0100, Rob Nickerson wrote:
Hi all,
In the UK (particularly in rural areas) it is common to find a road that
turns 90 degrees to the left or right without a junction (that is the road
just continues and white lines mark it as such). Meanwhile another road may
On 27/04/15 10:45, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
== Question ==
Could we benefit from a new route relation? For example a route_continues
relation? Would others find this useful?
And more importantly, if you need to turn off onto the minor road going
straight ahead it remains 'silent'.
2015-04-27 10:52 GMT+02:00 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl:
If you reread the original mail, then you'll see he already tried this
himself and it did not work.
Maybe this is caused by geometry simplication in the router? If you have a
detailed look at the overlay you can see that the routing
2015-04-26 13:35 GMT+02:00 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com:
I wonder whether it is possible to indicate this in OpenStreetMap so that
routing engines can omit this redundant instruction.
== Example picture ==
If you reread the original mail, then you'll see he already tried this
himself and it did not work.
On 27-04-15 10:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
FWIW, I just wanted to fix the situation to give you an example, and
someone else was faster, it is already fixed in the way I did suggest
above:
On 26/04/2015 12:35, Rob Nickerson wrote:
In the UK (particularly in rural areas) it is common to find a road
that turns 90 degrees to the left or right without a junction (that is
the road just continues and white lines mark it as such). Meanwhile
another road may come in from the other side
On 27/04/15 09:06, Steve Doerr wrote:
In the UK (particularly in rural areas) it is common to find a road
that turns 90 degrees to the left or right without a junction (that is
the road just continues and white lines mark it as such). Meanwhile
another road may come in from the other side with
The trouble with nodes is that they are non-directional. Junctions in
quick succession, and lane-dependent give-ways could make a challenging
scenario for a program to try and make sense of. Why not tag it
explicitly instead of leaving it to heuristics which (by definition)
will not always get
As I understand it, there is an implied direction in that the convention
is that the give_way node applies to the nearest intersection involving
the way. But yes, I can see that involves extra computation.
Steve
On 27/04/2015 09:51, Colin Smale wrote:
The trouble with nodes is that they are
On Mon Apr 27 15:07:45 2015 GMT+0100, Marc Gemis wrote:
As long as the name (or the ref/int_ref) of the street remains the same, I
think the router should be able to give other messages than turn right.
There is no need for an additional relation IMHO.
There is often no ref, or name. If
As long as the name (or the ref/int_ref) of the street remains the same, I
think the router should be able to give other messages than turn right.
There is no need for an additional relation IMHO.
m
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
On 27/04/15 10:45,
I should have written then there is no need (with then when there is a
name or ref that stays the same)
in the other cases you need a relation.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:18 PM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
On Mon Apr 27 15:07:45 2015 GMT+0100, Marc Gemis wrote:
As long as the name (or the
Won't work in the UK as there are plenty of cases where you have to give
way and make a proper turn in order to stay on the same road name and/or
ref. The concept even has a name - TOTSO which means Turn Off To Stay
On.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Martinvl/TOTSO
You cannot reliably
I'd call this mostly a routing presentation issue. If the road name is the
same, I'd want any super sharp curve
to warn me: Tight left in 100 meters, or 15mph left turn ahead. The
very fact of the OSM geometry ought to be
enough to calculate the necessary warning.
On 27 April 2015 at 13:52, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
On 27/04/15 13:17, pmailkeey . wrote:
Is the 'through route' and 'the same road' the same thing ? and does it
mean that the road number stays the same or that you do not cross the
white paint ?
One of the routes I follow
On 27/04/15 16:49, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 27 April 2015 at 13:52, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
On 27/04/15 13:17, pmailkeey . wrote:
Is the 'through route' and 'the same road' the same thing ? and does it
mean that the road number
On 26 April 2015 at 12:35, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the UK (particularly in rural areas) it is common to find a road that
turns 90 degrees to the left or right without a junction (that is the road
just continues and white lines mark it as such). Meanwhile
Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not sure I get your point about hint for router versus aid for
navigation. I suspect this may stem from the don't tag for the renderer
rule. If we look at the end use case the aim is to get a routing engine
that provides an optimal route
The difference between routing and navigation is that the routing
algorithm will work out which road you need to be on, but it is the
navigation aspect which makes translates the routing graph to useful
instructions for a human. If the main road does a 90 degree left at a
T-junction, something
There already is a through_route relation, to show the path of the
through route. It might not be well documented, but it is used (I
believe)by mkgmap.
There was a proposal, which was eventually rejected:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/through_route
IMHO it was
Hi all,
In the UK (particularly in rural areas) it is common to find a road that
turns 90 degrees to the left or right without a junction (that is the road
just continues and white lines mark it as such). Meanwhile another road may
come in from the other side with a 'give way' style junction.
There already is a through_route relation, to show the path of the
through route. It might not be well documented, but it is used (I
believe)by mkgmap.
There was a proposal, which was eventually rejected:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/through_route
IMHO it was rejected as
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