Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Serge Wroclawski schrieb: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lamping > wrote: > >> Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google >> maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your >> javascript code (completely?) if you want to go from the Googl

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google > maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your > javascript code (completely?) if you want to go from the Google API to OSM. > > So OSM is the "sec

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread John Smith
2009/9/6 Robert (Jamie) Munro : > There's even a bookmarklet (OSMify) you can run to add Mapnik, OSMA and > Cycle layers to most 3rd party Google maps sites: > http://blog.johnmckerrell.com/2007/12/31/new-version-of-osmify-bookmarklet/ Has anyone turned this into a user script? This would load i

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert (Jamie) Munro schrieb: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ulf Lamping wrote: >> Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google >> maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your >> javascript code (completely?) if you want

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulf Lamping wrote: > > Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google > maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your > javascript code (completely?) if you want to go from the Google API to OSM. In

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Ian Dees wrote: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Liz wrote: > > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > > already? > > > > > > http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: > 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : >> For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial >> solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. > > My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because > when you go to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : > For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial > solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because when you go to their website you get an "official" wa

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Kai Krueger
andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : >>> I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, >>> official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people >>> involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection >>> hosted free by UCL, or som

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Sep 2009, at 8:40 , andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : >>> I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, >>> official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people >>> involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough >>> connecti

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : >> I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, >> official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people >> involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection >> hosted free by UCL, or somebody else wants to offer reliab

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, > official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people > involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection > hosted free by UCL, or somebody else wants to offer reliable and free > hosting). Since it

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Ulf Lamping : > Jonathan Bennett schrieb: >> Tobias Knerr wrote: >>> How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent >>> maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really >>> intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just >>> expe

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Liz wrote: > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > already? > > > http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml > > If we can duplicate these functions, then I'd su

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Bennett > To put it another way: We will have succeeded not when the public uses > openstreetmap.org instead of Google Maps, but when Google Maps uses > OpenStreetMap data instead of Navteq, Teleatlas, or other proprietary > data sources. I'm somewhat new

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jonathan Bennett schrieb: > Tobias Knerr wrote: >> How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent >> maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really >> intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just >> experiment with them) and we are o

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Tobias Knerr wrote: > How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent > maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really > intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just > experiment with them) and we are only about data. If that's still

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Someoneelse
Tobias Knerr wrote: > How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent > maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really > intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just > experiment with them) and we are only about data. If that's still

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread John Smith
2009/9/5 Tobias Knerr : > Liz wrote: >> SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. >> Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do >> already? > > How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent > maintenance weekend it was stated t

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
Liz wrote: > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > already? How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really i

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:08:04 +1000, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, David Paleino wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: > > > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > > > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > > > already?

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Liz
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, David Paleino wrote: > On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: > > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > > already? > > > > http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: > SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. > Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do > already? > > http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml > > If we can duplicate these functions, then I'd

[OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Liz
SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml If we can duplicate these functions, then I'd suggest a polite discussion with SFD suggesting OSM for 20