Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-05 Thread Xav
Christoph : I do not want to spend time writing a bug tracker that is then rejected because of the way it stores the bug reports. If you propose a tag/value storage, there is no reason someone would reject it. Xav ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment I am trying to figure out if bug reports reports can be stored directly in the osm database using standard nodes and tags. Please, please don't take or advocate this approach. The OSM core tables should,

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-04 Thread Christoph Böhme
Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment I am trying to figure out if bug reports reports can be stored directly in the osm database using standard nodes and tags. Please, please don't take or

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread Gervase Markham
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Even when we do use something that wasn't invented here, the best fits are those which were at least partially developed with OSM in mind - from Mapnik to the ODbL. TBH I wouldn't have even considered this application as a bug-tracker had the comparison not been made

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: Inventing your own stuff makes perfect sense in the area of your core competency. Agreed absolutely. [...] I agree that where the bug tracker starts being used for mapping- related things, then the boundaries start to blur. But I'd still suggest that the only

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread David Earl
On 03/12/2008 18:47, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: Inventing your own stuff makes perfect sense in the area of your core competency. Agreed absolutely. [...] I agree that where the bug tracker starts being used for mapping- related things, then the boundaries start to

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Allwright
I agree that where the bug tracker starts being used for mapping- related things, then the boundaries start to blur. But I'd still suggest that the only difference between an OSB ticket and a software bug ticket is the method of submission. After that, it's triaged and managed in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread Matthias Julius
David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 03/12/2008 18:47, Richard Fairhurst wrote: - the bugtracker will not be the core client for managing the bug, the usual OSM clients will (Potlatch/JOSM/Merkaartor) I don't think so, with one exception: you'd like to be able to view the map from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-03 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Donald Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Apart from this, the lifecycle of a bug is essentially the same in each case so the same tool could be used, but with a different front end. You are probably right about the lifecycle. When I wrote the proposal for an improved bugtracker I

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Marc Schütz wrote: Bugzilla as a backend would certainly be nice, but as a frontend it is obviously inappropriate. I don't know whether Bugzilla supports alternate frontends; if so, it could be worthwhile building one that fits our needs. Modern Bugzillas have an XML-RPC interface, and also

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm not sure why the need to reuse existing software at all. Bugtracking is the sort of thing you expect to find in 'Rails For Dummies' as My First Rails App - if you’ve got a decent framework it’s pretty elementary. As someone who's spent the last nine years working

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/11/2008 13:06, Gervase Markham wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm not sure why the need to reuse existing software at all. Bugtracking is the sort of thing you expect to find in 'Rails For Dummies' as My First Rails App - if you’ve got a decent framework it’s pretty elementary. As

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mikel wrote: I'd suggest bypassing Trac and looking into RedMine http://www.redmine.org/ I'm not sure why the need to reuse existing software at all. Bugtracking is the sort of thing you expect to find in 'Rails For Dummies' as My First Rails App - if you’ve got a decent framework it’s pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-27 Thread Lambertus
Richard Fairhurst wrote: No need to have geometry drawing, which is the hard bit to code. If you want to draw ways, you need to make a sufficient commitment to the project to learn an editor, just as thousands have already done. And if you’ve progressed through this entry-level editor, you’re

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Wood
2008/11/27 Lambertus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Richard Fairhurst wrote: No need to have geometry drawing, which is the hard bit to code. If you want to draw ways, you need to make a sufficient commitment to the project to learn an editor, just as thousands have already done. And if you've progressed

[OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Steffen Vogel
As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email notification - duplicate handling - user handling - attachements (pictures, links, etc...) - search - filters - reports, charts statistics etc. Bug trackers like

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/11/2008 16:56, Steffen Vogel wrote: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email notification - duplicate handling - user handling - attachements (pictures, links, etc...) - search - filters -

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:20 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just a thought - there isn't already a change tracking system for geographical data out there is there, or an add on or plugin for an existing system? No, I don't think there's ever been a use case for what we're talking

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Marc Schütz
Am Mittwoch 26 November 2008 17:56:15 schrieb Steffen Vogel: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email notification - duplicate handling - user handling - attachements (pictures, links, etc...) -

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/11/2008 17:27, Ian Dees wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:20 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a thought - there isn't already a change tracking system for geographical data out there is there, or an add on or plugin for an existing

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread John07
Marc Schütz schrieb: Am Mittwoch 26 November 2008 17:56:15 schrieb Steffen Vogel: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email notification - duplicate handling - user handling - attachements

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:38 AM, John07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Schütz schrieb: Am Mittwoch 26 November 2008 17:56:15 schrieb Steffen Vogel: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread John07
Karl Newman schrieb: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:38 AM, John07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Schütz schrieb: Am Mittwoch 26 November 2008 17:56:15 schrieb Steffen Vogel: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs.

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Mikel Maron
I'd suggest bypassing Trac and looking into RedMine http://www.redmine.org/ Trac is wonderful, but convoluted. RedMine is built in Rails and quite easy to modify. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Steffen Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: As a user and mapper of OpenStreetMap, I often use OpenStreetBugs. Unfortunatly this project is quity poor in features like: - email notification - duplicate handling - user handling - attachements (pictures, links, etc...) - search - filters

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Tom Hughes
Mikel Maron wrote: I'd suggest bypassing Trac and looking into RedMine http://www.redmine.org/ Trac is wonderful, but convoluted. RedMine is built in Rails and quite easy to modify. Trac has the massive advantage that we're already using it however... Being built on rails is no particular

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: Being built on rails is no particular reason to favour something at all really - quite the opposite in many ways. Come on, how can you be critical of a project that single-handedly implements an issue tracker, a wiki, and even forums! It's probably just a few more

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-11-26 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:23:59AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Come on, how can you be critical of a project that single-handedly implements an issue tracker, a wiki, and even forums! It's probably just a few more lines of rails code and it also has a geo database, then we'll just drop