Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-09 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: > > Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: >> >> The first solution, using OAuth against what was a RESTful API, is bad. >> > > Whether OAuth fits the ideology of a RESTful API or not, it is already > heavily used in OpenStreetMap. One of the strengths of OS

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-09 Thread Kai Krueger
Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: > > The first solution, using OAuth against what was a RESTful API, is bad. > Whether OAuth fits the ideology of a RESTful API or not, it is already heavily used in OpenStreetMap. OAuth is the preferred method of authenticating JOSM against the API, it is the only(?)

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Samat K Jain wrote: > On Saturday, May 07, 2011 08:26:28 AM Kai Krueger wrote: >> Yes, there is a fully functional OpenID implementation. >> http://openid.dev.openstreetmap.org/ >> >> However, it currently doesn't seem to have the political support necessary >> to

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-09 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 05/09/2011 06:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: >> >> The API is RESTful, and therefore should hold no state. OAuth is >> precisely the opposite of that. > > One could argue that at least the write API (which is the one mainly > requir

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/09/2011 06:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: The API is RESTful, and therefore should hold no state. OAuth is precisely the opposite of that. One could argue that at least the write API (which is the one mainly requiring authentication) is stateful already because you have to open a c

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-08 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > > Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: >> >> How does authentication work on the API level with OpenID? >> > Preferably through OAuth The API is RESTful, and therefore should hold no state. OAuth is precisely the opposite of that. > but the account can/s

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-08 Thread Samat K Jain
On Saturday, May 07, 2011 08:26:28 AM Kai Krueger wrote: > Yes, there is a fully functional OpenID implementation. > http://openid.dev.openstreetmap.org/ > > However, it currently doesn't seem to have the political support necessary > to get it merged. But perhaps if enough people express their in

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Kai Krueger
Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: > > How does authentication work on the API level with OpenID? > Preferably through OAuth, but the account can/should still have a password associated just like before in case you need basic auth in the API -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > For example, if you hit the edit button without having an account, you get > redirected to the login page. If you then hit e.g. the gmail button you will > automatically get to the create account page with some of the details > already pre-fil

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Kai Krueger
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Also, don't misunderstand how the OpenID login works - you will still > have to create an account with OSM, it's only that your everyday login > will be simplified. So anyone for whom the signup is an insurmountable > hurdle will not join - whether we support OpenID or

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Mike N wrote: Facebook is imho less likely, as as far as I know, it uses a proprietary protocol and so I would be less enthused to support that. It depends on the type of mapper we're trying to attract. Using the Facebook login will be the simplest possible way to get started for many p

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Mike N
On 5/7/2011 10:26 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: Facebook is imho less likely, as as far as I know, it uses a proprietary protocol and so I would be less enthused to support that. It depends on the type of mapper we're trying to attract. Using the Facebook login will be the simplest possible way to g

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Kai Krueger
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Well I'd say that OpenID is enough. And there's an OpenID branch of the > Rails Port that already goes so some length supporting that. > Yes, there is a fully functional OpenID implementation. http://openid.dev.openstreetmap.org/ However, it currently doesn't seem to h

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > Josh Doe wrote: > >> That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with >> Facebook/Twitter/etc, and then even allowing login to OSM with >> Facebook/OpenID, and who knows what else. >> > > Well I'd say that

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Josh Doe wrote: That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with Facebook/Twitter/etc, and then even allowing login to OSM with Facebook/OpenID, and who knows what else. Well I'd say that OpenID is enough. And there's an OpenID branch of the Rails Port that already g

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread David Earl
On 07/05/2011 13:05, Josh Doe wrote: That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with Facebook/Twitter/etc, You can already get them on twitter by following @osmblogs David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Josh Doe wrote: > Has there been any discussion of enhancing the user diary system? I > couldn't find any discussions on the wiki or lists, but please point > me to them if they exist. Yes, there has. In a number of ways, and different people have different ideas.

[OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration

2011-05-07 Thread Josh Doe
Has there been any discussion of enhancing the user diary system? I couldn't find any discussions on the wiki or lists, but please point me to them if they exist. My number one suggestion is that we allow users to subscribe to certain diary posts. I'll comment on an entry, and then someone will fo