From: "Martijn van Oosterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 April 2008 20:57:45 BDT
... But one thing I learned from mapping my own area: the maps you
buy are *wrong* in so many places. Maybe easter eggs, maybe bugs. In
either case, don't make the assumption that just because you paid
money
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Correct! I have
never actually seen one, but I'm sure they exist. However, I can make
my own spelling mistakes without their help. I hope people didn't
assume I'm doing all my mapping from the A-Z. I do actually go out
there collecting tracks with my GPS, photogr
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM, elvin ibbotson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct! I have never actually seen one, but I'm sure they exist. However, I
> can make my own spelling mistakes without their help. I hope people didn't
> assume I'm doing all my mapping from the A-Z. I do actually go out
Para: talk@openstreetmap.org
Asunto: Re: [OSM-talk] namespaces and copyright
It seems my little rant about what I perceive as an unnecessarily precious
approach to copyright issues ruffled a few feathers. I think everyone's plumage
is spruce again now, so I just want to respond to s
It seems my little rant about what I perceive as an unnecessarily
precious approach to copyright issues ruffled a few feathers. I think
everyone's plumage is spruce again now, so I just want to respond to
some of the helpful guidance received.
You may yet have to come across a streetname d
elvin ibbotson wrote:
> Chris Hill is worried about copyright issues with climbing routes and
> this is like lots of concerns I have seen expressed such as taking
> street names from actual street signs rather than from copyrighted
> material. If it's the name of the street, it's the name of th
elvin ibbotson wrote:
OK, now we're completely off the original topic :-)
Thanks for the tip, Richard. I hope I'm not the only user who
didn't know that.
Probably not!
I'm occasionally posting Potlatch tips and news here:
http://potlatchosm.wordpress.com/
(And it's aggregated in Planet OSM
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elvin ibbotson schrieb:
| I too am relatively new to OSM and occasionally bemused by the arcane
| debates on the talk list.
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| Those who know about database theory should be able to decide on the
| merits of namespaces. I can see the value of a struc
OK, now we're completely off the original topic :-)
Thanks for the tip, Richard. I hope I'm not the only user who didn't
know that.
elvin ibbotson
From: Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 April 2008 14:03:26 BDT
To: OSM Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] nam
elvin ibbotson wrote:
JOSM imports waypoints with GPX tracks and I would like to see
Potlatch do the same
It does (and has done for a while). One user seems to be having
problems with GPXs created by the bundled Garmin software, but it
certainly works with those created by gpsbabel.
Yo
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM, elvin ibbotson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I too am relatively new to OSM and occasionally bemused by the arcane
> debates on the talk list.
>
> Those who know about database theory should be able to decide on the merits
> of namespaces. I can see the value of a
Hi,
> The reason for any heat is that when presented with a tag name
> piste:lift:occupancy, my basic reaction is why would you do that?
A someone completely uninterested in all things skiing, I would perhaps
not be unhappy see everything related to pistes and lifts named
"piste:..." because th
Further discussion on this topic is probably best relegated to the
legal-talk list:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 01:23:05PM +0100, elvin ibbotson wrote:
> Chris Hill is worried about copyright issues with climbing routes and
> this is
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Date: 25 April 2008 08:46:47 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] namespaces
I don't know if I count as a "new user" (started late
2007) but I can't see any benefit from this
"namespace" business. I'm technically minded, b
> I don't really see reason for such a heated discussion. We are
> already using namespaces. Most implementations of namespaces somehow
> support the concept of a "default" or "root" namespace, which is
> where, logically, all those tags currently reside that are not
> qualified with a namespa
Jonathan Bennett wrote:
> What we also
> need is editing software that hides the complexity of namespaces from
> the user. JOSM and Potlatch both present the user with a flat list of
> key/value pairs, which is great for people like me who get a perverse
> pleasure from typing in complex strings,
Hi,
just a side note:
> On this occasion I find "Ockham's Razor" convincing.
> i.e. K.I.S.S.
Ockham's Razor is often used when deconstructing paranormal claims
and it goes about so: If something can be explained by a simple and a
more complex theory, always go for the simpler one. Ockham
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Namespaces are
AOL to everything Frederik says, and I'll add this:
Namespaces are a technical thing that's needed at the back end (or
hierarchical tags, but that would be just as confusing). What we also
need is editing software that hides the complexity of namespaces f
Hi,
> We don't
> want OSM data to only make sense to people familiar
> with the concept of "namespaces" do we? Or was that
> the intention?
Namespaces are
1. REQUIRED if you want to use the same tag in different contexts on
the same object. For example if you want to use the "name" tag in the
I don't know if I count as a "new user" (started late
2007) but I can't see any benefit from this
"namespace" business. I'm technically minded, but not
an expert geek by any means, and not familiar with the
concept of "namespaces".
On this occasion I find "Ockham's Razor" convincing.
i.e. K.I.S.S.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Ben Laenen wrote:
> There's currently no way to properly tag those kind of restrictions,
> unless I've missed something...
Maybe what is needed to satisfy everyone is *optional* namespaces - if you
don't specify a namespace then it is assumed to apply to all of the
namespac
On Thursday 17 April 2008, Chris Hill wrote:
> namespaces: -1
I see a good use for the kind of namespaces as mentioned in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/access:_name_space
A restriction which often occurs here is for example: "no goods vehicles
with mass over 3.5 ton
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