Hi Andy,
I do support the opinion of Maarten, too much channels to communicate and this
is not the first time that a message is placed on one platform
I made an Github account in my early days, but shortly there is to much to read
about and over OSM. IMHO your not able to read and contribute to the map making
survey's.
The reading and reacting / answering would take all of the readers/mappers
time, so your not a mapper at all :-((
Greetz
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers (Warin)
2. Database on readonly? (Maarten Deen)
3. Re: Database on readonly? (Andy Townsend)
4. Re: Database on readonly? (Maarten Deen)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 22:41:01 +1000
From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers
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The important part of that past talk thread was the question as to changing the
wiki grandstand definition to say that it must have a roof rather than usually
has a roof.
Unfortunately both the Oxford Dictionary and Wikipedia say 'usually roofed'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandstand
So what 'grandstands' have no roof???
And then how are they distinguished from 'bleachers'???
On 14/07/18 20:36, Marc Gemis wrote:
> You asked the exact same question in April 2018 on the tagging mailing
> list, not ?
>
> I like the response Philip Barnes gave you back then:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-April/035662.html.
> bleachers = open structures, without walls, grandstands with walls,
> roofs and often for professional sports.
>
> m.
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:26 AM Tomasz Wójcik <tom...@wp.pl> wrote:
>> Currently, we (de facto) have 2 tags for the same feature, which is not a
>> proper state.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=grandstand
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bleachers
>>
>> I think we should choose the correct one andadd warning moving mappers to
>> the proper one on OSM Wiki.
>>
>> Building=grandstand is not perfect for me, beacuse building=* tag suggest
>> that is some kind of typical building (with walls, roof, etc.) and most of
>> the OSM styles render building=grandstand like every other buildings, where
>> you can go inside, which may be confusing with grandstands areas. On the
>> other hand we have leisure=bleachers , when the "bleachers" word is propably
>> used only in USA.
>>
>> What do you think about it?
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:29:26 +0200
From: Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl>
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Database on readonly?
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There is a message on the map at openstreetmap.org that the database is
readonly because of maintenance and in JOSM I can't download anything.
I've seen no announcement and the platform status at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Platform_Status gives everything OK.
What is the problem? Is there maintenance going on?
Regards,
Maarten
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:38:25 +0100
From: Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Database on readonly?
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On 15/07/2018 11:29, Maarten Deen wrote:
>
> What is the problem? Is there maintenance going on?
Nothing on the "announce" list
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ , but it was
mentioned at https://mobile.twitter.com/osm_tech (and in last week's OSM
weekly news)
Best Regards,
Andy
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:58:15 +0200
From: Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl>
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Database on readonly?
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On 2018-07-15 12:38, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 15/07/2018 11:29, Maarten Deen wrote:
>>
>> What is the problem? Is there maintenance going on?
>
> Nothing on the "announce" list
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ , but it was
> mentioned at https://mobile.twitter.com/osm_tech (and in last week's
> OSM weekly news)
Thanks. So many places to convey information but you just have to read
the correct one :/
Regards,
Maarten
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