Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2015 2:12 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: It also happens that I have stopped renewing my membership to the OSMF after an election where a candidate was excluded from the vote because his views on a controversial subject (related to license change) were strongly different from those of

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-12-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 04.12.2015 um 10:58 schrieb Paul Norman : >> this outgoing Board, that had a conception of basic democracy different from >> mine, > > I didn't know the background on one of the individuals, but I'd have rather > seen the other become a member the

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-12-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 23:12:22 +0100 Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: > - Rejection of public lies : Several communications of HOT US Inc., > both internal and external, are in contradiction with facts. They > sometimes combine with the next item, ... Maybe I missed it but see

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-12-02 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Le 25/11/2015 13:10, Dave F. a écrit : > How do you perceive these "dangers" will manifest themselves? > > Dave F. > Dear OpenStreetMap Community members, Let me first apologize for writing about topics that usually do not need to be considered by those who only care about improving this

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Joseph Reeves
Your understanding of new member admission is correct, however, these decisions are made by majority vote, so I still have little individual say. The problem we face in HOT on this issue is getting enough members to approve new intakes rather than the actions of individuals. I still fail to see

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 28 November 2015, Joseph Reeves wrote: >5. I have no decision making powers within HOT - I am a member > just as I am an OSMF Member It seems to me this is not quite correct although - since the work of the HOT members is not in public - i cannot really say for sure. In addition

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 28 November 2015, Tom Taylor wrote: > [...] > > As a naive lurker on the lists, I took the announced candidacies at > face value. That is, committed individuals decided individually to > run for office. I agree that if all of them got elected, HOT would > dominate the Board, but that

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all, I've enjoyed reading these emails this week, but have stayed out of the discussion. I just wanted to clarify some quick points: 1. I have not discussed my running for the OSMF Board with any other candidates 2. I have not discussed my running for the OSMF Board with the HOT

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-27 Thread augustindoury
- Sorry if you receive this email twice, internet connection from Togo is uncertain tonight - Hi Dave, Your question is not adressed to me but I'd like to give my opinion here. My name is Augustin Doury, I've been active in OpenStreetMap since end 2012 as a daily commitment to sustain the

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-27 Thread Tom Taylor
Thank you for a thought-provoking reply. I am neither a HOT voting member nor an OSMF voting member, so I'm probably unaware of any internal politics that are going on. I do chair the HOT Training WG, which I see as an attempt to solve a problem: hundreds or thousands of volunteers who want to

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-27 Thread augustindoury
Hi Dave, Your question is not adressed to me but I'd like to participate here. My name is Augustin Doury, I've been active in OpenStreetMap since end 2012 as a daily commitment to sustain the growth of OSM communities in West Africa, especially on the field in Senegal where I've been a HOT

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-25 1:59 GMT+01:00 Dave Corley : > It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone > (members) to vote for who they choose. > > Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the > governing rules which can be voted on. > > In

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-25 Thread Dave F.
How do you perceive these "dangers" will manifest themselves? Dave F. On 24/11/2015 23:01, nicolas chavent wrote: Hi all, Apologies for crosspostings, resending to talk an email sent to osmf-talk about the HOT US Inc presence at the Board of the OSMF. Best, Nicolas Dear OSMF voting

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-24 Thread Dave Corley
It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone (members) to vote for who they choose. Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the governing rules which can be voted on. In other words, to paraphrase the techies, patches welcome Dave

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-24 Thread john whelan
My personal view is it doesn't really matter. It is an election as I understand it so members do vote for whom they wish to represent them. Perhaps a larger concern might be the concentration of board members from a particular country or region. Cheerio John On 24 November 2015 at 18:01,