Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Oct 2017, at 18:25, Daniel Koć wrote: > > "Although forest is a term of common parlance, there is no universally > recognised precise definition, with more than 800 definitions of forest used > around the world." > > [

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Dave F
On 30/10/2017 17:25, Daniel Koć wrote: "Although /forest/ is a term of common parlance, there is no universally recognised precise definition, with more than 800 definitions of forest used around the world." This is part of the OSM problem - It's been misappropriated as a verb to indicate

Re: [OSM-ja] [Talk-ko] Romanisation: a solution

2017-10-30 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。 念の為、翻訳しますです。 To: Maarten This is summary of muramoto-san's post. * +1 to use `ja-Latn` * I would like to use `ja-Latn` than others (e.g. `ja-latn`). Upper case is used in BCP47, so it is more appropriate. Although it is said that "case insensitive" in BCP47 standards, but upper case is

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Warin
On 30-Oct-17 10:23 PM, Dave F wrote: On 29/10/2017 21:42, Warin wrote: And then when the trees are harvested in a forestry operation the tag natural=wood could be removed with the result that the land use would be lost.. Irrelevant, it could also be removed if it were landuse=forest.

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday

2017-10-30 Thread Rob Nickerson
Sounds sensible. See you Thursday. Regards, *Rob* On 30 October 2017 at 19:37, Andy Robinson wrote: > Shall we try the Gunmakers Arms? If it doesn’t work out we call always > walk over to The Bull. > > > > Chees > > Andy > > > > *From:* Rob Nickerson

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm13 ne répond(ait) plus...

2017-10-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
Certains SSD ne mesurent que la qualité de l'espace de stockage des pages de mémoire NAND, mais pas celui de la mémoire de tags (une mémoire un peu plus rapide qui établit la correspondance entre secteurs physiques et secteur logiques ou indiquent que le secteur est trimmé) et la bitmap des pages

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm13 ne répond(ait) plus...

2017-10-30 Thread Christian Quest
Je lui ait demandé, mais ce coquin ne veut pas répondre ! Plus sérieusement, munin montre qu'il y a eu un pic sur la latence, puis plus rien, kernel HS, machine bloquée. Branché en USB sur mon laptop, il n'est pas détecté. Je ne pense pas que ce soit un problème d'age de la mémoire flash, on

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm13 ne répond(ait) plus...

2017-10-30 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Sait-on pourquoi il a lâché ? Merci pour la réactivité. Jean-Yvon Le 30/10/2017 à 21:59, Christian Quest - cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : SSD remplacé... OS mis à jour (maintenant Ubuntu 16.04), ré-import base planet en cours... Le 30 octobre 2017 à 11:28, Christian Quest

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm13 ne répond(ait) plus...

2017-10-30 Thread Christian Quest
SSD remplacé... OS mis à jour (maintenant Ubuntu 16.04), ré-import base planet en cours... Le 30 octobre 2017 à 11:28, Christian Quest a écrit : > Le 28/10/2017 à 13:04, Christian Quest a écrit : > > Depuis cette nuit, 3h52... > > Pas de réponse aux ping, je contacte

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday

2017-10-30 Thread Eike Ritter
Dear Andy, > Shall we try the Gunmakers Arms? If it doesn’t work out we call always > walk over to The Bull. > >   Fine with me - I'll be there. Eike signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday

2017-10-30 Thread Brian Prangle
I have another engagement at 6pm so I'll be there later with an outside channce of not even making it (depends on when it finishes) Rgds Brian On 30 October 2017 at 17:27, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi all, > > It's our monthly meeting this Thursday. Which pub shall we

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday

2017-10-30 Thread Andy Robinson
Shall we try the Gunmakers Arms? If it doesn’t work out we call always walk over to The Bull. Chees Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 October 2017 17:28 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday Hi all,

[Talk-GB] British National Grid coordinates in JOSM

2017-10-30 Thread Bob Hawkins
Stuart Choosing “East/North” tab from Tools>Add node and against “Projected coordinates:” inputting full coordinates from the BNG origin, such as “474795 178597” (Eastings metres before Northings) works, so far as I see. Anyone having 100-Kilometre two-letter grid references would need to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-30 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 30 October 2017, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: > > We have updated the text on the HOT Tasking Manager in light of the > suggestions from this email thread. > > They will be deployed to our live instance later this week, but you > can review them here: > > http://tasks-stage.hotosm.org/

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting Thursday

2017-10-30 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, It's our monthly meeting this Thursday. Which pub shall we try this time? Looking forward to seeing you all soon. Thanks, Rob ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.10.2017 o 18:13, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: one tag for what? An area with trees? A forest? How would you define "forest"? "Although /forest/ is a term of common parlance, there is no universally recognised precise definition, with more than 800 definitions of forest used around

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-29 15:16 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 27.10.2017 00:49, Dave F wrote: > > The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM. > > Indeed. The current mess is especially disappointing because it hasn't > always been that way: The status quo is the

Re: [Talk-GB] British National Grid coordinates in JOSM

2017-10-30 Thread Stuart Reynolds
Hi Bob (and anyone else who’s done this), I’ve reset the projection, and can now see the coordinates in OSGR. Yay! But does anyone know how I can jump to a set of coordinates? If I click the coordinate boxes, the menu that comes up still insists on Lat/Lon. Thanks Stuart On 22 Oct 2017, at

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-30 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: > Thanks again and I'll reply when there is something on our staging > site for folks to look at. Hi, We have updated the text on the HOT Tasking Manager in light of the suggestions from this email

[Talk-de] "Draconius Go" nutzt OSM-Daten. Ohne Quellenhinweis?

2017-10-30 Thread Manuel Reimer
Hallo, vor einigen Tagen bin ich auf die "Pokemon Go Alternative" aufmerksam geworden: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.elyland.DraconiusGO Beim kurzen Antesten ist 100%ig deutlich, dass hier OSM-Daten genutzt werden. Einen sauberen Hinweis auf OSM suche ich allerdings

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-30 Thread Ilya Zverev
Tobias wrote: > > This does not mean that he should be exempt from the rules, of course. > To the contrary: What I would hope for is consistent enforcement of the > rules, with gradually increasing penalties. Jumping straight from spotty > enforcement to a permanent ban, though, seems wasteful

Re: [Talk-it] formato gtfs, trasporto extraurbano Trentino, da sito dati.trentino.it.

2017-10-30 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, 2017-10-30 12:14 GMT+01:00 Maurizio Napolitano : > Resta il fatto che questa storia resta una follia: anni che si porta > avanti il movimento > copyleft con il l'obbiettivo di evitare di chiedere fornendo strumenti > molto chiari sul riuso, > ed ora si ricomincia da

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread Dave F
On 30/10/2017 08:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Would also be good to see a few suggestions for features. A few of mine; on the cartography side: - add contours (I have done this on Freemap so I should be able to figure out this) - hill shading (not had any experience of this though I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-30 Thread john whelan
Actually area=yes in Africa isn't that bad. In JOSM I quite often come across a settlement with thirty buildings drawn but not tagged and its a lot faster to select the area, validate it then add tags to thirty buildings at once rather than map thirty buildings. You do need to check them

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-30 Thread Richard
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 28.10.2017 12:06, Andrew Hain wrote: > > His behaviour over the past years makes him a contributor of net > > negative value. > > I have to disagree here. He's probably the single most active wiki > contributor, and is also

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread David Woolley
On 30/10/17 12:05, Lester Caine wrote: Yep ... fixmystreet is not working with the right authorities and is a pain to find the right location anyway. Looking to overlay the website location map with the sort of facilities a parish council looks after. I'm not aware that any of the council

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 158, Issue 90

2017-10-30 Thread Alan Bragg
Clifford, ​We'll said. OWNERSHIP of your home turf would be a good subject for you to present at the SOTM 2018. It would appeal to those of us "unpaid mappers" who attend SOTM. All the 2017 sessions were interesting, but few related directly to how I map. Alan​ > ​ > > > > Christoph, >> As Simon

Re: [OSM-ja] 市中免税店のタグ付けについて

2017-10-30 Thread Mariko HISAKAWA/GODA
いいださん コメントありがとうございます。 もう少し調べてみたところ、世界で「旅行者向けに税金を払い戻す」 このWikipediaの記事 (独自研究にもとづいているとの指摘はありますが) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax-free_shopping によれば、外国人旅行者に何らかの税の払い戻しを行っているのは55か国あり、 対象となる税の種類や呼称もさまざまなようです。 日本の「消費税」に相当する税金の呼称にもバリエーションがあります。

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Digest di Talk-it-lazio, Volume 61, Numero 8

2017-10-30 Thread Ubaldo Musco
Confermato ciao a tutti Ubaldo > Il giorno 30 ott 2017, alle ore 13:00, > talk-it-lazio-requ...@openstreetmap.org > ha scritto: > > Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista Talk-it-lazio > all'indirizzo > talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-30 Thread Marcos Oliveira
Citing Christoph (TheFive@OSM) statement here because he told me he isn't a member of this list. a) I do not want to blame Verdy_P, i just want to solve an issue, that is > running now for more than 6 month. > b) My parser technique is behind what is necessary, my attempt to make it > better

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread Lester Caine
On 30/10/17 11:32, David Woolley wrote: > On 30/10/17 10:37, Lester Caine wrote: >>   What >> I'm looking at here is reports of fly tipping, dog mess, and so on;) > > > > However, note that some councils are insisting

[OSM-talk] MapRoulette task creation

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel Koć
I have two ideas for MapRoulette, but I haven't tried to set my own challenge yet and the main problem is that I don't know how to prepare the data, since both are about nested areas: 1. Checking if amenity=place_of_worship way without building=* tag inside another amenity=place_of_worship or

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread David Woolley
On 30/10/17 10:37, Lester Caine wrote: What I'm looking at here is reports of fly tipping, dog mess, and so on;) However, note that some councils are insisting that only their own web site be used to report

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Dave F
On 29/10/2017 21:42, Warin wrote: And then when the trees are harvested in a forestry operation the tag natural=wood could be removed with the result that the land use would be lost.. Irrelevant, it could also be removed if it were landuse=forest. until such time as the tress grow again

Re: [Talk-it] formato gtfs, trasporto extraurbano Trentino, da sito dati.trentino.it.

2017-10-30 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
> Se derivi dei dati da un'altra fonte, indipendentemente da come lo fai, è > comunque un import e la licenza deve essere compatibile con quella di OSM. > > Per quanto riguarda la CC-BY, c'è qualche piccolo problema da risolvere: > https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ Il

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Dave F
On 29/10/2017 14:16, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 27.10.2017 00:49, Dave F wrote: The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM. Indeed. The current mess is especially disappointing because it hasn't always been that way: The status quo is the result of an attempt to

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread Lester Caine
On 30/10/17 08:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > As you may know, the plan is to produce a UK specific OSM mapping site. > A start on this has been made here: > > http://www.free-map.org.uk/osmuk/ > The test site covers Hampshire only due to server constraints. It would perhaps be useful to have a

Re: [Talk-lt] Topologijos taisyklės

2017-10-30 Thread Tomas Straupis
2017 m. spalio 30 d. 12:23, Ramūnas Dronga rašė: > Tomai, o kitos šalys juk ir taip naudoja tokius pačius principus, tik gal > jie nėra gerai iškomunikuoti. Ar aš klystu? Bandžiau rašyti į talk sąrašyną apie topologijos taisykles, bet tema labaaai greitai nukrypo į dešimt metų aptarinėjamą temą

Re: [Talk-es] Ediciones realizadas como función de un puesto de trabajo

2017-10-30 Thread Miguel Sevilla-Callejo
Hola, Gracias Iván por lanzar esta cuestión para el debate y a Esther por traer a colación documentos que yo desconocía. Creo muy necesario hacer una reflexión sobre el tema puesto que a diferencia de Wikipedia, y por la naturaleza de los datos de OSM, las aportaciones que se hagan sobre la base

[OSM-talk-fr] osm13 ne répond(ait) plus...

2017-10-30 Thread Christian Quest
Le 28/10/2017 à 13:04, Christian Quest a écrit : Depuis cette nuit, 3h52... Pas de réponse aux ping, je contacte free pour voir si il y a eu un pépin... Du coup, plus de tuiles HOT -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Serveur planté grave (rien à l'écran, voyant du clavier qui ne

Re: [Talk-lt] Topologijos taisyklės

2017-10-30 Thread Ramūnas Dronga
Gerai aprašyta! Tomai, o kitos šalys juk ir taip naudoja tokius pačius principus, tik gal jie nėra gerai iškomunikuoti. Ar aš klystu? On 30 Oct 2017 9:31 am, "Tomas Straupis" wrote: Sveiki Jau daug metų žmonės klausia apie „parko“ žymėjimą. Kur kaip ką žymėti, ką

Re: [Talk-it] formato gtfs, trasporto extraurbano Trentino, da sito dati.trentino.it.

2017-10-30 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 30/10/2017 09:40, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: Ciao, Se derivi dei dati da un'altra fonte, indipendentemente da come lo fai, Ú comunque un import e la licenza deve essere compatibile con quella di OSM. Per quanto riguarda la CC-BY, c'Ú qualche piccolo problema da risolvere:

[OSM-talk-fr] Jungle Bus : conférence à Paris / rencontre communauté / développements appli mobile

2017-10-30 Thread Florian LAINEZ
Bonjour à tous, L'équipe de Jungle Bus continue son bonhomme de chemin pour booster OSM dans le domaine du transport. Nous avons terminé le projet de cartographie du réseau de transport de la ville d'Accra, au Ghana, avec 320 lignes maintenant complètes dans OSM. En voici une carte :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des hauteurs de bâtiments sur Montpellier

2017-10-30 Thread Vincent Frison
Hello Marc, Le 30 octobre 2017 à 10:34, marc marc a écrit : > Bonjour Vincent, > > merci pour cette énergie. > Merci ;) > As-tu mis en place une "protection" pour ne pas modifier l'objet si la > valeur obtenue est hors-limite raisonnable ? si oui quelle valeur ? >

Re: [Talk-it] ruota idraulica di una segheria

2017-10-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
Ho mappato parecchi "watermill" in Veneto (sia ex-mulini, sia mulini ancora attivi utilizzando essenzialmente due tagging diversi: man_made=watermill e historic=watermill. Sono d'accordo che disused:... o razed:... siano altretanto validi. ("disused", se l'edificio c'è ancora; "razed", se

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des hauteurs de bâtiments sur Montpellier

2017-10-30 Thread marc marc
Bonjour Vincent, merci pour cette énergie. As-tu mis en place une "protection" pour ne pas modifier l'objet si la valeur obtenue est hors-limite raisonnable ? si oui quelle valeur ? Sur le principe, feu vert pour moi pour l'import. Je me posais des question à propos des formes de toit et

[OSM-talk-fr] Importation des hauteurs de bâtiments sur Montpellier

2017-10-30 Thread Vincent Frison
Hello, Après Nice (et Paris) je projette d'importer la hauteur des bâtiments de la commune de Montpellier en me basant sur un MNT (modèle numérique de terrain) et MNS (modèle numérique de surface) disponibles directement en ODbL sur le portail Open Data de Montpellier Mediterranée Métropole:

Re: [OSM-ja] 市中免税店のタグ付けについて

2017-10-30 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。 すみません、制度をよくまだ調べきれていないのですが、 ・日本独自の制度である(?) ・消費税が対象 というところから、tax_freeだけだと少し指定が弱い気がします。 例えばよくある記法だと、こんなかんじの指定がありそうな気はしますが、あまり根拠というか、確証はないです ^^; tax_free = consumption_tax tax_free:consumption_tax = yes 2017年10月29日 13:23 Mariko HISAKAWA/GODA : >

[Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-10-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Much of this is being discussed in Loomio but was having a discussion over the weekend with a fellow mapper and we thought that it might be valuable to mention it on the mailing list too. As you may know, the plan is to produce a UK specific OSM mapping site. A start on

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-30 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Some time ago I suggested that the user should choose the preset and *then* draw a feature. Such reversal is logical, allows to disable incompatible geometry types (such as building=* on lines and points) and even opens the door for displaying a concise tip on how to draw the object based on

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hiérarchie des relations d’itinéraire cyclistes

2017-10-30 Thread Axelos
Coucou, je répond à moi même. Le 27/10/2017 à 11:16, Axelos a écrit : > On m'a remonté l'info que OpenCycleMap n'affiche pas les routes > internationales, après vérification je confirme et j'ai demandé la cause > à Thunderforest par courriel (au cas où il s'agit d'un simple oublie). J'ai eu une

Re: [Talk-it] formato gtfs, trasporto extraurbano Trentino, da sito dati.trentino.it.

2017-10-30 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, 2017-10-29 19:47 GMT+01:00 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu < liste.gira...@posteo.eu>: > Nel sito opendata dati.trentino.it c'è un file sulle fermate autobus e > altro che mi interessa per usare le informazioni ivi contenute[0] ad uso > della mia zona (no import, solo sfondo e mappatura

Re: [Talk-it] formato gtfs, trasporto extraurbano Trentino, da sito dati.trentino.it.

2017-10-30 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli
puoi usare anche Transit.land che importando i dati gtfs di mezzo mondo , te li restituisce tramite API. cosi puoi usare i dati come sfondo dinamicamente. esempio www.piersoft.it/transitland prova a fare una ricerca o georiferendoti oppure cercando la città che ti interessa sulla le lente, se

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Incontri / was ...

2017-10-30 Thread Flaminia Tumino
Buongiorno a tutti, confermato oggi alle 19 giusto? Io ci sarò. Flaminia Il giorno 23 ottobre 2017 22:03, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 23. Oct 2017, at 17:41, Fra Mauro wrote: > > > > Scusate, ma dunque a che

Re: [OSM-talk] Topology rules

2017-10-30 Thread Gaurav Thapa
@Dave F Here is an example of where idependent buildings have been built as connected in OSM (https://osm.org/go/zrViz5k4A--?layers=D=). Here is an area where we have a great difficulty tracing using satellite imagery alone and where mapping historically has not been clear regarding this rule (

[Talk-lt] Topologijos taisyklės

2017-10-30 Thread Tomas Straupis
Sveiki Jau daug metų žmonės klausia apie „parko“ žymėjimą. Kur kaip ką žymėti, ką iškirpti, kokius multipoligonus kurti, kodėl „čia“ pažymėta vienaip, o „va ten“ - kitaip ir pan. Pagaliau prisiruošiau parašyti apie tai tinklaraštyje:

Re: [Talk-it] ruota idraulica di una segheria

2017-10-30 Thread demon.box
voschix wrote > Una segheria che è operata con acqua secondo Wikipedia è un tipo di > watermill. Il termine inglese "sawmill" è una segheria indipendentemente > del tipo di "motore". > Quindi potresti utilizzare: > building=yes > disused:man_made=watermill > historic=sawmill certo ok e ti