Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 21:29:21 +0100 Simon Poole wrote: > Back to WD: as pointed about above, the issue is not that the WMF is > claiming that WD can be used on CC0 terms when it couldn't be, aka > laundering the data (quite to the contrary), it is that becauseĀ  we > would need to vet the provenance

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Simon Poole
Maybe I need to expand a bit, this was discussed early on when WD first became available, and is just a rehash of that. Essentially it boils down to - the WMF only licences ".. all of Affirmer's Copyright and Related Rights and..." on CC0 terms (CC0 2.), in other words their rights - and doesn'

Re: [OSM-talk] Dispute on wiki page Collaboration_with_Wikipedia

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 13:45:25 +0100 Michael Reichert wrote: > I think that the question if someone may copy > data from OSM/Wikipedia/Wikidata to Wikipedia or Wikidata should not > be discussed in the OSM wiki in full length. Especially Wikidata to Wikipedia and Wikipedia to Wikidata imports are c

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 10:28:29 -0800 Mark Wagner wrote: > Not an issue. The CC0 license explicitly calls out database rights as > being released to the greatest extent possible. From the text of the > license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode) What about cases where: 1

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Simon Poole
Am 05.11.2017 um 19:28 schrieb Mark Wagner: > > Not an issue. The CC0 license explicitly calls out database rights as > being released to the greatest extent possible. From the text of the > license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode) > Yes, if it is the rights holder

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 11:47:22 +0100 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > tl;dr > > It may be not OK to import data from Wikidata despite that this > database is CC0 (adding wikipedia/wikidata tags is still OK, but this > connection is mostly useless for adding data into OSM). > > It may be necessary to re

[OSM-talk] Dispute on wiki page Collaboration_with_Wikipedia

2017-11-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, I have a dispute with user Verdy_p on the sections "Importing geodata from Wikipedia" and "Importing geodata to Wikipedia" of the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia and would like to get comments from other members of the OSM community because edit wars

[OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
tl;dr It may be not OK to import data from Wikidata despite that this database is CC0 (adding wikipedia/wikidata tags is still OK, but this connection is mostly useless for adding data into OSM). It may be necessary to revert some imports of data from Wikidata Note: it is likely that some