Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

[Warin]

On 21/09/18 06:11, Jem wrote:

Thank you both. That's very helpful.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 22:25, Dave F > wrote:


Hi

Short answer: Yes

There's a few problems here:

Relations should not be used to collect thing together.


? That is what they can be used for. See the site relation as an example.


There shouldn't be tags on the ways which conflict with those in
the relations


True.


MP relations require a 'type' tags and 'inners' & 'outers' roles


True


In this case the Southern section shouldn't be a polygon


Did not look.


MP relations should be restricted to the areas which have inners:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2571440#map=19/51.15275/-2.05045

No. They can be used to collect a series of outer ways to form the 
boundary of a feature e.g. an administration boundary usually shares 
ways with adjacent administrations.


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Everyone, please ignore the "don't edit or translate the label"
restriction.  There is now a dedicated ID P16 property.

We can change label to be more useful to the new editors, e.g. "name in
English" instead of "name:en"

Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 18:01 Shu Higashi  wrote:

> Hi Yuri, thanks for offering this feature.
>
> > When editing, please do not
> > change or translate the "label"
> > field. Only use description field for
> > the translation efforts,
>
> Can you please explain the reason for this? Is it both the label of items
> and properties that should not be translated?
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

[Shu Higashi]

Hi Yuri, thanks for offering this feature.

> When editing, please do not
> change or translate the "label"
> field. Only use description field for
> the translation efforts,

Can you please explain the reason for this? Is it both the label of items
and properties that should not be translated?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

[Jem]

Thank you both. That's very helpful.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 22:25, Dave F  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Short answer: Yes
>
> There's a few problems here:
>
> Relations should not be used to collect thing together.
> There shouldn't be tags on the ways which conflict with those in the
> relations
> MP relations require a 'type' tags and 'inners' & 'outers' roles
> In this case the Southern section shouldn't be a polygon
> MP relations should be restricted to the areas which have inners:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2571440#map=19/51.15275/-2.05045
> The Islet, in this case, isn't included in the relation.
> There are no defined 'outers'
> There should be a complimentary tag to natural=water, such as
> water=stream/river etc.
>
> Cheers
> DaveF
>
>
>
> On 19/09/2018 01:35, Jem wrote:
>
> Is there any problem with defining a water feature that is a mix of
> polygons & lines? e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6447531
>
> Should it be fixed, or is it ok?
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

[Dave F]

Hi

Short answer: Yes

There's a few problems here:

Relations should not be used to collect thing together.
There shouldn't be tags on the ways which conflict with those in the 
relations

MP relations require a 'type' tags and 'inners' & 'outers' roles
In this case the Southern section shouldn't be a polygon
MP relations should be restricted to the areas which have inners: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2571440#map=19/51.15275/-2.05045

The Islet, in this case, isn't included in the relation.
There are no defined 'outers'
There should be a complimentary tag to natural=water, such as 
water=stream/river etc.


Cheers
DaveF



On 19/09/2018 01:35, Jem wrote:
Is there any problem with defining a water feature that is a mix of 
polygons & lines? e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6447531


Should it be fixed, or is it ok?


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