Besides the tech boosterism, another issue is that it's disingenuous
if Facebook claims to be strongly supporting OSM, while continuing to
keep their valuable user-provided data in a separate, proprietary
database.
Facebook and Google have the two best lists of POIs like shops and
restaurants, and
I've proposed removing the rendering of natural=marsh in
Openstreetmap-carto, the rendering stylesheet used for the "standard"
map layer on openstreetmap.org
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3829
The common tagging for a marsh is natural=wetland + wetland=marsh as
with oth
(I chose the wrong source email address; apologies if anybody gets this twice).
Thanks, Jóhannes. I did try FB's tool myself and was pleasantly surprised it
does a "looks OK for now" job of how Mikel put it earlier: "a balance between
turbocharged and exploitation." I hear you as you say that
31. júlí 2019 kl. 19:01, skrifaði "stevea" :
> Just because, as you say (and I agree), that "human mappers have not been
> able to produce high
> quality maps worldwide" doesn't mean that we can't, we simply must strive to
> do better. And we do.
> And we should using available tools like AI, t
Right (or nearly right, imo), Kathy: thank you for your reply.
I didn't say OSM absolutely DOES have high quality. In my last decade of
mapping here, I certainly have seen it get better (in pockets) as well as worse
(in smaller pockets), so on the whole, it gets better / higher quality. What
I agree that human wisdom is critical to high quality, and AI isn't useful
if, at the end of the process, it doesn't produce quality output, but I
will challenge this statement: "you can have high quality without AI." I
don't think that's definitively true for a global map. It's very difficult
to k
Oops, "social conscience." (not conscious)
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I believe introducing into OSM technologies based in AI / machine learning
REQUIRES a concomitant discussion about how the data WILL BE high quality,
because they are quality assured (and perhaps here is a brief sketch of our QA
process, or a pointer thereto). Anything less feels disingenuous t
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:41:17AM +0200, Michael Kugelmann wrote:
> Am 25.07.2019 um 11:36 schrieb Florian Lohoff:
> > And IIRC it was about a
> > collaboration with the local community in Thailand which their first aim
> > was.
> I just remember that the "collaboration" in Thailand some time ago
John, Kathleen, thank you for this perspective I did not have.
Yves
Le 29 juillet 2019 19:25:34 GMT+02:00, john whelan a
écrit :
>I agree with Kathleen. Given that smartphones are more common than
>internet connected computers and it is easier to add or change tags on
>a
>smartphone than add a
No need to argue that much about it:
I think everyone will agree that we should not, at any case, add a track in OSM
that doesn't exist.
It can be dangerous in any emergency situation anywhere in the world.
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Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:19 AM Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
> > speaking about risks, having an incomplete network of verified,
> > correct roads is probably more useful and less troublesome than an
> > "overcomplete" one which also
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