Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

2019-08-10 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Marc, On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 7:36 PM marc marc wrote: > could you share a link that shows that it is the local community that > solicited facebook as the wiki page claims and not facebook that invents > a collaboration to "whashing" their wishs ? given the frequent issues > (about both the q

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

2019-08-10 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Frederik, On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 5:55 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > do I understand correctly that you and your local partners aim to > recruit new mappers to OSM, who will not learn the "old fashioned" > workflow of tracing stuff from imagery by hand, but be mainly taught to > work with pre-pro

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Hi Martin, For another perspective, imagine someone making a world map with 85% OpenStreetMap data and 15% XY inc. data, if someone looks on a part of this map which is fed by these 15% XY data, you would not want to have it incorrectly attributed to OpenStreetMap (although we are generally t

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-10 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, We had a tight schedule for this survey, because we want to be able to present something by the next SotM. That explains why some questions aren't exactly worded perfectly. It would have been better to get more people involved and do more testing. But that inevitably slows things down. We did

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 10. Aug 2019, at 11:27, Nuno Caldeira wrote: >> can't they use more than one data source? >> Yes, i do agree. Sounds like a good argument to remove the 50% of the >> guideline. >> > Yes, i do agree. Sounds like a good argument to remove the 50% of the > guideline. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Oh right that sounds fair...not. Same applies to this https://janaodaparaabastecer.vost.pt/ theres Mapbox logo, there's VOST logo, then under  "i" crap load of sources...oh yeh that's OSM for sure, i know my edits well. clearly the 50% rule needs to be removed from the guidance as users are us

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

2019-08-10 Thread marc marc
Hello, > The community of OSM mappers in the Philippines could you share a link that shows that it is the local community that solicited facebook as the wiki page claims and not facebook that invents a collaboration to "whashing" their wishs ? given the frequent issues (about both the quality

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 17:27, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > It's even hard to recommend apps like Maps.me when they don't > attribute Openstreetmap, instead putting their own logo in the lower > right corner. > > If people don't know that OSM is the source of the data in a map, they > won't know how

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 09.08.19 16:35, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I wonder if we could perhaps get rid of the "Contributors" mention > altogether. This idea makes a lot of sense. Especially as both the guideline draft and the current FAQ already allow this "if space is limited": > Because OpenStreetMap is its contributo

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

2019-08-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Eugene, do I understand correctly that you and your local partners aim to recruit new mappers to OSM, who will not learn the "old fashioned" workflow of tracing stuff from imagery by hand, but be mainly taught to work with pre-processed Facebook road data? How will you ensure that your partners g

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Nuno Caldeira
So maybe it is an unauthorized use of Mapbox. Anyone can sign up free. You should report it to Mapbox. Nah, they stop replying me, they must have me on blacklist. Which goes a bit against their values "*Be respectful and humble.* To everyone — always." https://www.mapbox.com/about/values/

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kathleen Lu wrote: > "reasonably calculated" means "reasonable." What does reasonable mean? > Well a court would look at what other people in the industry do. Do others > in the industry list attribution, especially to multiple data sources, > after > a click (or many clicks)? Yes, all the time.

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I'm just an individual mapper who would like more people to be aware of Openstreetmap. I'm not a professional cartographer, nor do I have any ties to any map providers. My concern right now is that most of my friends and family are completely unaware of the existence of Openstreetmap, even though