Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 08:46 2022-09-30, Andrew Hain đã viết: The Wikidata links haven’t gone away; they’re in the OSM data items where they are easily machine readable and can be curated against accidental divergences between languages. The other description arguments could just as easily follow (there’s no

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit - remove image=https://westnordost.de/p/* tags (and similar)

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 18:21 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Le 27.09.22 à 21:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> Sep 26, 2022, 13:49 by marc_m...@mailo.com: >> >> is it possible to have a list by country? i would be willing to go >> through a series of images and contact one or the other person

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 18:19 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > you're deleting a *data*, an info (the match between tag > and a wikidata item) on the wiki > Just to confirm: are you aware that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree has matching data item

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Date: Sep 30, 2022, 18:26 From: marc_m...@mailo.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ? > Hello, > > Le 30.09.22 à 13:36, Frederik Ramm a écrit : > >> "Make link far less prominent"

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 30.09.22 à 13:36, Frederik Ramm a écrit : "Make link far less prominent" is not the same as "delete link". Therefore the bot activity has, in my opinion, no community backing and needs to be stopped and reverted. Thanks for your opinion, I hope it will be a consensus Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit - remove image=https://westnordost.de/p/* tags (and similar)

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Le 27.09.22 à 21:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Sep 26, 2022, 13:49 by marc_m...@mailo.com: is it possible to have a list by country? i would be willing to go through a series of images and contact one or the other person concerned Are you interested in specific area?

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Le 30.09.22 à 15:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Sep 30, 2022, 14:55 by marc_m...@mailo.com: Le 30.09.22 à 14:42, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Not entirely sure what should be done differently. if you want to vote on "hide", use an url and a title with *hide*,

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Andrew Hain
The Wikidata links haven’t gone away; they’re in the OSM data items where they are easily machine readable and can be curated against accidental divergences between languages. The other description arguments could just as easily follow (there’s no problem with them being listed in the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 14:51, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 30.09.22 14:32, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against > > this asinine idea since it was first proposed; I don't have the energy > > to repeat myself in every new forum where you

Re: [Talk-ro] Level 8 administrative boundaries in Romania

2022-09-30 Thread Vlad Sîngeorzan
Hello, Indeed the missing data is due to human resources, the import is still progressing, but slowly. ted3sco started the process and mapped most of them; I also helped and added 2 or 3 counties worth of administrative boundaries. The imports requires a very thorough work and we only find time

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 30.09.22 14:32, Andy Mabbett wrote: As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against this asinine idea since it was first proposed; I don't have the energy to repeat myself in every new forum where you repeat it. Just because "asinine" is a fancy word it is no less

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:46, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Sep 30, 2022, 14:32 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > It was proposed on >

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 14:55 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Hello, > > Le 30.09.22 à 14:42, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> Not entirely sure what should be done differently. >> > > if you want to vote on "hide", use an url and a title with *hide*, > as you did. > but not a "it's hide but

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 30.09.22 à 14:42, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Not entirely sure what should be done differently. if you want to vote on "hide", use an url and a title with *hide*, as you did. but not a "it's hide but somewhere i said that hive mean I 'll delete it", that's unfair and imho

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 14:32 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > >> It was proposed on >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Remove_wikidata_parameters_from_infoboxes >> and noone was against, so I have run it >> > > As you

Re: [Talk-ro] Level 8 administrative boundaries in Romania

2022-09-30 Thread Michael Häckel
Hi, Well the original import from many years ago actually reflected the residential areas instead of the real boundaries. Now there is correct data. User ted3sco added some boundaries about two years ago and apparently didn't finish it. Probably this requires a lot of manual work. I can't

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 14:08 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 30.09.22 13:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else. >> > > It occurs to me that this is what usually happens in politics. Still, we > should aim to be better ;) > And to be

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > It was proposed on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Remove_wikidata_parameters_from_infoboxes > and noone was against, so I have run it As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against this

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 14:08 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > (note that bot edits on OSM Wiki are often done without any > requests/proposals, > and my habit of actually proposing it and waiting two weeks before running it > is more than done in general) > See also

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sep 30, 2022, 13:36 by frede...@remote.org: > "It will not lead to any data loss, but will make Wikidata link far less > prominent." > > "Make link far less prominent" is not the same as "delete link". > This proposal had "Remove rendering of Wikidata external links from bottom of the infobox"

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 30.09.22 13:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else. It occurs to me that this is what usually happens in politics. Still, we should aim to be better ;) -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 30.09.22 12:59, Marc_marc wrote: do we really want the community to waste its time remaking a wikidata-osm out of ego not to use wikidata.org when it describes the same concept? I think that there is a danger of confusion here because Wikidata has its own ideas about what a tree is

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
It would be better to discuss it at Wiki, but I can respond here. > because for some tags, the item described by the tag was not the same > as the one described by the wikidata item (in my opinion it is better > to only delete the erroneous links instead of hiding everything) not really see

[OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, a few months ago, the community unfortunately voted [|] to "remove alphanumeric code visible in infoboxes at OSM Wiki linking to Wikidata" because for some tags, the item described by the tag was not the same as the one described by the wikidata item (in my opinion it is better to only