[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia now has a blog

2009-03-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Have created a blog for the OSM Mappa Mercia folks. http://mappa-mercia.blogspot.com/ First post is the new printed maps of Birmibngham and Solihull I just received. enjoy Cheers Andy ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Reminder, Birmingham Social evening this Thursday 2nd April

2009-03-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Reminder that the next Birmingham Social evening is this Thursday 2nd April at the Queens Arms, Newhall St, Birmingham. From 7pm. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.4836mlon=-1.9064zoom=17 We will have our new Birmingham and Solihull map on show http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/ See you there,

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN import starts - Birmingham trial area first

2009-03-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Thanks to the good folks at UK Department for Transport and Traveline, the NaPTAN data import (principally of Bus stops) has started. Birmingham is being used as an initial trial to check out any issues before the main bulk of the upload takes place. Thanks go to Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) for

[Talk-GB] Reminder, Birmingham Social evening this Thursday 2nd April

2009-03-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Reminder that the next Birmingham Social evening is this Thursday 2nd April at the Queens Arms, Newhall St, Birmingham. From 7pm. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.4836mlon=-1.9064zoom=17 We will have our new Birmingham and Solihull map on show http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/ See you there,

[Talk-GB] reminder, Black Country Mapping Party next weekend - April 4/5

2009-03-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A reminder to all that a fun mapping party will be underway next weekend in the heart of the Black Country. Already a good showing it would be great to see some more of the regular faces too :-) The event is being held from 10:00am on Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th April at The Public in West

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
(contract fusion, database fission and anti-copyright-matter). Inspired :-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Allan Sent: 25 March 2009 7:09 PM To: Licensing and other legal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Copyright Notice and Year

2009-03-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Using the last date is the approach I take for the 1:25,000 provisional/first edition maps I'm collecting. Most don't have a copyright date but luckily I have the excellent book on the 1:25,000 series written by Peter Hellyer which confirms what year a particular map edition/print edition appeared

Re: [Talk-GB] Route planner using UK OSM data

2009-03-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nice work :-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andrew M. Bishop Sent: 22 March 2009 10:23 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Route planner using UK OSM data I have been a

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS track precision (was GPS track upload working?)

2009-03-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Yann Coupin wrote: Sent: 19 March 2009 8:22 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS track precision (was GPS track upload working?) As an aside, while I was using some traces I made and I wanted to compare them to existing one, I realized that downloding points using the API

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-cr Costa Rica mailing list

2009-03-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ooh, great news, maybe I can have the folks there send me my favourite coffee! Welcome to those in Costa Rica :-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Mike Collinson Sent: 19 March 2009 8:46 AM To: OSM

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hi

2009-03-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gareth, Yes we do! :-) great to have you here. You may have joined the list just after the announcement re the Black Country mapping party on 4/5 April. See the list archive and the wiki page for the event: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/Black_Country Cheers Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 19 March 2009 12:00 AM To: Russ Nelson Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia? Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: This is a serious enough issue that it should be escalated to the OSMF. OSMF telling the Wikikpedia people what to do would be

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Black Country Mapping Party - April 4 5

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The next Cloudmade sponsored mapping party will be in the heart of the Black Country hosted at The Public in West Bromwich on April 4/5. This party will be the main kick-off event in our attempt to map the remaining 284 segments of the cake for the wider Black Country area by Christmas this year.

Re: [Talk-GB] Brewery tagging

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 18 March 2009 10:43 AM To: Ed Loach Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Brewery tagging On 18/03/2009 10:36, Ed Loach wrote: Hi Does anyone have suggestions on how best to tag breweries ... one in Bury St Edmunds is tagged landuse=industrial (with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Statistics and TIGER import question: Whathappened in August 2007?

2009-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Hansen wrote: Sent: 17 March 2009 4:16 AM To: Ian Dees Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Statistics and TIGER import question: Whathappened in August 2007? On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 20:05 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: I'm sure DaveH will be able to chime in on this with more clarity, but

Re: [OSM-talk] 100,000th user day

2009-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
SteveC wrote: Sent: 17 March 2009 1:24 AM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] 100,000th user day Today is declared a holiday - Global OSM Day - in honour of surpassing 100,000 users http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=444 And the graphical stats updated for all and our media friends.

Re: [OSM-talk] Misquote of the day

2009-03-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
80n wrote: Sent: 13 March 2009 11:03 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] Misquote of the day Even Computer Weekly has managed to get it wrong this week: http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/03/13/235269/web-almost- happened-by-accident-reveal-cern-experts.htm Quoted from this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ciprian Talaba: Sent: 12 March 2009 9:28 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset Hi all, I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Liz wrote: Sent: 12 March 2009 10:31 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: Nick Black wrote: I've always felt that you were completely aligned behind the aims of OSM - we can disagree,

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Nelson wrote: Sent: 09 March 2009 6:25 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands Earlier, I proposed that certain datasets should be immutable; whether by policy or mechanism as needed. I propose importing the NYS DEC Lands as an immutable set of data. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Who contributed most?

2009-03-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Lars Aronsson wrote: Sent: 10 March 2009 9:21 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Who contributed most? In the discussion about the license change, somebody mentioned the idea that we might have to delete contributions by users who refuse to agree to the license change or by users

Re: [OSM-talk] New (German) OSM Flyer

2009-03-10 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 10 March 2009 11:13 AM To: OSM Subject: [OSM-talk] New (German) OSM Flyer Hi, we have re-vamped our OSM flyer a bit. 25k copies of the old, brown-ish design have been distributed since we did the first print run in early 2008. The new one is similar in size and

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-03-10 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Applications_2008 -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ian Dees Sent: 10 March 2009 4:15 PM To: Mikel Maron Cc: OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Google Summer of Code 2009 What is

Re: [OSM-talk] licence plan - Question about supplying own data

2009-03-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 04 March 2009 5:04 PM To: jamicu...@gmail.com Cc: OSM Subject: [OSM-talk] licence plan - Question about supplying own data * (extreme example?) A group of 8 year old kids spend a day in a local park mapping out locations where they find butterflies. They

Re: [Talk-GB] Experiences after completing an area

2009-03-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Chance wrote: Sent: 04 March 2009 9:45 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Experiences after completing an area Hi there, Now that we are getting somewhere with our map of Sutton: http://tom.acrewoods.net/blog/2009/mar/sutton-green-map-update I'm thinking about promoting its

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009-03-03 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 03 March 2009 10:05 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO SteveC wrote: I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page below. Very pretty

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Who is ODC and why do we trust them?

2009-03-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 02 March 2009 8:57 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Who is ODC and why do we trust them? On 2 Mar 2009, at 08:29, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Grant wrote in his announcement: ... Therefore, we have worked with the license

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM shortcuts/macro for Gaza editing

2009-02-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
LeedsTracker wrote: Sent: 23 February 2009 12:15 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] JOSM shortcuts/macro for Gaza editing Hello all, I'm just starting to add data from the Yahoo imagery using JOSM, and wondered if there's something that will save me a bit of time/frustration. When

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM wiki local copy

2009-02-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Igor Shubovych wrote: Sent: 17 February 2009 6:49 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM wiki local copy Hello all, My friend asked me this question: Does anybody know how to download the local copy of OSM wiki? For instance, Wikipedia guys do provide DB dumps

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code

2009-02-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Hughes wrote: Sent: 19 February 2009 8:53 PM To: Steve Hill Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Matthias Julius Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code Steve Hill wrote: I find OSB very useful (especially with the JOSM plugin), but I'd be really interested to know what the rationale is

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Having thought about this a bit overnight I personally feel that the project should have an OSM specific blog that gets used for OSM community announcements, worthy news items and OSMF announcements. Announcements are easy as they report fact and it's just a matter of deciding if the announcement

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
80n wrote: Sent: 15 February 2009 2:29 PM To: OJ W Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org? On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: The OSM front page has a news blog link - should that go to

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gustav Foseid wrote: Sent: 16 February 2009 10:29 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: As you both know several years of work went in to that blog, and not just by me.

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 16 February 2009 11:19 PM To: SteveC Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org? snip Who writes that blog? For some reason, maybe a bug in Wordpress, if you click on the archives then you don't see who wrote the

Re: [Talk-GB] London's Shortest Street

2009-02-10 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
In Birmingham we have A B Row, which while not being perhaps the shortest street (though it is exceedingly short) it is the shortest name. However although it currently sits on the map the whole area (Birmingham East Side) is under demolition/redevelopment and so what will happen to one of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Mass import of TeleAtlas data

2009-02-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
An update on this. We just had a part admin part technical meeting to take this specific matter further and will be communicating directly with the relevant parties shortly. Mikel will be posting a more general email about the process of investigating and dealing with data abuse/vandalism etc as

Re: [OSM-talk] Donate today for OSM's £10 ,000 s erver fundraiser

2009-02-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Sent: 05 February 2009 7:14 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk]Donate today for OSM's £10 ,000 server fundraiser El Jueves, 5 de Febrero de 2009, Grant Slater escribió: The current DB server is badly overload. The 3x frontend API servers are limited

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter, please see responses inline below. Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 24 January 2009 11:30 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions.; secret...@osmfoundation.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting Comments on the minutes of the 23rd Dec board meeting It is good that the minutes

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSMF board meeting minutes for December 2008?

2009-01-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] wrote: Sent: 19 January 2009 2:39 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Subject: Re: OSMF board meeting minutes for December 2008? Hi, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I'll have the draft minutes

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 22 January 2009 11:10 PM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22 Hi, Mikel Maron wrote: We want to move ahead with this draft of the license asap. The license won't be perfect, but there will

Re: [OSM-talk] 0.6 move and downtime

2009-01-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Shaun, that's fine, but I can only do 21/22 in March so you guys would be on your own to set up and I'd need to find somewhere else to focus on for the 21/22nd. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] Sent: 20 January 2009 10:03 PM To: Andy

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSMF board meeting minutes for December 2008?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
To: Licensing and other legal discussions.; Andy Robinson (blackadder- lists) Subject: OSMF board meeting minutes for December 2008? Hi, I know it's been the festive season and we're all still not done eating all the left over chocolate but would it be possible to publish the OSMF board meeting notes

[OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I started a stub http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Walking_Routes based upon the Cycle Routes page. I hope this doesn't duplicate anything but I could not find a landing page on the wiki to cover long distance walking and hiking routes generally. Needs work to pull stuff together and the UK long

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] wrote: Sent: 19 January 2009 10:44 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
to the table at the bottom so that we have just one location to monitor progress. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Mike Harris [mailto:mik...@googlemail.com] Sent: 19 January 2009 1:20 PM To: 'Gregory Williams'; 'Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)'; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
If you make that OSGB file available I'm sure someone will convert to lat/lon and upload, same with any other bits that you have that are missing from elsewhere. A relation should quite happily hold all of the bits and pieces for the Pennine Bridleway, it wouldn't really be doing its intended job

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE maps broken?

2009-01-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
There is an existing ticket for this http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/1918 Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 14 January 2009 10:27 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject:

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE maps broken?

2009-01-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tim Sheerman-Chase wrote: Sent: 14 January 2009 5:02 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] NPE maps broken? Hi all, I think I have a fix for the NPE map using Richard's tiles. I previous wrote a WMS server to handle it and the latest JOSM seems to be ok with it too. Details here:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
This is one of those situations where we might split the tagging to firstly denote what is on the ground and secondly to give the various administrative and other conservation classifications and controls. A good start as you suggest would be to list conservation designations by country so that we

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tim Berners-Lee wrote: Sent: 13 January 2009 3:31 PM To: Peter Miller Cc: Christopher Schmidt; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=conservation Peter, Yes, my first post. But just me as a map and outdoors enthusiast. And a warm welcome

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode tag

2009-01-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Stubbs Sent: 05 January 2009 3:20 PM To: Gervase Markham Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode tag When I selected postal_code I was mindful that postcode is not used to denote the code universally. In the US its ZIP (Zone Improvement Plan) code for instance.

Re: [Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull completed

2008-12-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Awesome work Chris, join the small club of now ex mappers ;-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 24 December 2008 10:58 AM To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull

[Talk-GB] Announcement: Second City, Birmingham, and its surrounds completed

2008-12-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
It is with great pleasure, and not just a little excitement, that I can announce that the mappers in Birmingham having set the task of completing the whole of the city by Christmas have achieved just that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.4708lon=-1.8972zoom=12layers=0B00FT F Birmingham and

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSantaMap

2008-12-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nice work Grommit Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] Sent: 19 December 2008 12:30 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'Tim Waters (chippy)'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSantaMap I have bought

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoBase nodes import

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Doesn't get my vote. If it's a feature already why would we want to have to recreate it manually. Also by just importing nodes how can we visually/easily tell what nodes relate to what feature, especially if features overlap or cross. I can understand the difficulty in adding new data into

Re: [OSM-talk] buildings and roads

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
OJ W wrote: Sent: 18 December 2008 11:19 AM To: Nathan Mixter Cc: openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] buildings and roads On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Nathan Mixter srmix...@hotmail.com wrote: Just wondering. Shouldn't buildings be rendered behind roads. Not if the building is over the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSantaMap

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I hope these flies. We are only a style sheet away from making topical maps. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Tim Waters (chippy) Sent: 18 December 2008 4:38 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject:

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] GeoBase nodes import

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Doesn't get my vote. If it's a feature already why would we want to have to recreate it manually. Also by just importing nodes how can we visually/easily tell what nodes relate to what feature, especially if features overlap or cross. I can understand the difficulty in adding new data into

Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Proposed projects are something I'm keen to see mapped. Once a feature reaches the planning application stage I think we should be prepared to document it. The principal issue with this is of course that most planning applications go hand in hand with an OS derived map/plan. Thus representing the

Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 18 December 2008 11:55 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'Peter Miller'; 'Steve Chilton'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:12, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: For features

Re: [OSM-talk] Disable Potlatch finally.

2008-12-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gert Gremmen wrote: Sent: 16 December 2008 10:37 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Disable Potlatch finally. I want to plead for disabling Potlatch. Most of the silly edits, things like self crossing roads, star formed roundabouts, forest areas crossing waters and worse are 99%

[Talk-GB] London Olympics - Was: Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2008-12-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Stubbs wrote: Sent: 12 December 2008 9:52 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed 2008/12/11 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com: A quick scoot around our green and pleasant land

[Talk-GB] Reading mapping party this weekend 13/14 Dec

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The Reading mapping party this weekend will be hosted in Meeting Room 1 at RISC (Reading International Solidarity Centre) http://www.risc.org.uk Thanks to Rob White for the suggestion. I'll put full details up on the wiki with the cake this evening. I'll be there from 9am Saturday (come at 10am if

Re: [Talk-GB] Reading mapping party this weekend 13/14 Dec

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2008 12:17 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Reading mapping party this weekend 13/14 Dec On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:57:51 -, Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Reading mapping party

[Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A quick scoot around our green and pleasant land reveals a number of really unloved places (Why are so many in Lincolnshire!). We need ideas on how to get these places on the map, whether it be motivating the natives or sending in the OSM swat teams to raise the profile. I'd like to hear your

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 09 December 2008 1:37 PM To: Matt Amos Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] addressing Hi, Matt Amos wrote: sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's relations with name-based references, when we already have proper relations?

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Christoph Böhme wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 11:23 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? Hi! Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I reckon I have one more season of mapping to the north of Birmingham (Walsall

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
something set up. I'm sure those attending would ensure your costs are covered. Sounds like it could be a cool social and mapping gathering. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 December 2008 12:50 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'osm

[Talk-GB] Mapping party in Reading, December 13 14

2008-12-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Following my post last week I've decided to set the next Cloudmade sponsored party for Reading on December 13 14th. I had by far the biggest response for it so it seems logical bearing in mind the short time before it will run. I'll look at the other location suggestions for the New Year. I'll

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Sent: 01 December 2008 11:57 To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark Jochen, We posted draft board meeting minutes to the OSMF website so you can

[OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much. Is it the northern hemisphere winter kicking in? Has the credit crunch or fuel prices made a difference?

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Donald Allwright wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 2:13 PM To: 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) I think you'll find that if you start mapping footpaths,

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Igor Brejc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 3:57 PM To: Donald Allwright Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? How about covering your area with land use data using yahoo/landsat? It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
graham wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:07 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now I know ;-) What part? How Big? Is it

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
80n wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 5:38 PM To: graham Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more

Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 3:10 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction On 01/12/2008 14:11, Brian Quinion wrote: Hi, I'm currently doing some work trying to generate postcode location data for the UK using

Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Brian Quinion wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:01 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: David Earl; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction Andy Robinson wrote: David Earl wrote: On 01/12/2008 14:11, Brian Quinion wrote: Has

Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Brian Quinion wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:28 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Request for UK address lists for postcode extraction Andy Robinson wrote: I'd noted that too. Business directory listings (Yell, Thomson etc) or house

Re: [OSM-talk] Hierarchy of places

2008-11-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
There aren't that many cities with duplicate/multiple names. So I'd guess a wiki page where they are listed and the community decides a stacking order would be straightforward enough. Obviously doing it at lower levels this approach wouldn't work. Info can then be tagged and used by namefinder?

[OSM-legal-talk] FW: [OpenStreemap] Legal question

2008-11-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Forwarded to legal-talk -Original Message- From: Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 November 2008 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OpenStreemap] Legal question Hello, I would like to use an extract of the Openstreet map on my e-commerce website to point where my shops

[Talk-GB] Mapping parties - Dec/Jan/Feb

2008-11-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hi OSMers, As many of you will be award Cloudmade are generously sponsoring a monthly mapping party at the moment and so far we have had great success in Bradford, Manchester, Stratford-upon-Avon and Evesham. Now that Winter is upon us I'm struggling a little to get the level of interest for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Donald Allwright wrote: Sent: 20 November 2008 12:59 PM To: David Earl; osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover derived geographic data in the UK From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/ordnance-survey-google- maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg Sent: 20 November 2008 3:27 PM To: Donald Allwright Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK Actually, the current tagging doesn't seem to have enough granularity here. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 20 November 2008 5:23 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover derived geographic data in the UK The problem here is who says it's a public right of way. If you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] No board meeting minutes since June08?

2008-11-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 17 November 2008 12:36 PM To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] No board meeting minutes since June08? It appears that no board meeting minutes have been published since June08.

[Talk-GB] Final Reminder: Stratford Mapping Party

2008-11-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Final reminder that the Stratford-upon-Avon mapping party sponsored by Cloudmade runs tomorrow with a further day of Mapping on Sunday in nearby Evesham. For Saturday the local village hall in Tiddington on the outskirts of town is our venue where the tea urn will be running, the homemade soup is

Re: [Talk-GB] Manchester Mapping Party Render

2008-11-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Cool Simon, Thanks :-) Which reminds me, I still have a few of the local walker contributions to edit. They don't contain much new data though. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk-gb- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: 13 November 2008 7:48

Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads

2008-11-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Lester Caine wrote: Sent: 07 November 2008 11:47 AM To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads David Earl wrote: On 07/11/2008 11:31, Christoph Boehme wrote: Joshua Scotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added some streets recently on an industrial estate and tagged them

Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads

2008-11-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 07 November 2008 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads On 07/11/2008 06:48, Joshua Scotton wrote: Hi, I added some streets recently on an industrial estate and tagged them highway=road as I'm not

[Talk-GB] Reminder: Midlands User Group meeting, Birmingham. Thursday 6th Nov.

2008-11-03 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
OSM Midlands User Group social meet this Thursday (6th) from 7:00pm Where: Craven Arms, Upper Gough Street, Birmingham [1]. What: Social evening - plus more banter about the Birmingham map completion and results from the micro mapping party this last weekend. Note also to all those in the west

Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Thanks Tim. I should have added the Yahoo! tracers to my original thank-you note. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Tim Waters (chippy) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2008 10:59 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Christoph Boehme; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject

Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for student project on OSM

2008-10-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
James Stewart wrote: Sent: 28 October 2008 2:38 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Ideas for student project on OSM Hi, I am a contributor to the map,but also work in the University in Edinburgh. I have been talking to the people who run the MSc in GIS, they have 140 students, and

Re: [Talk-GB] BETT education tradeshow

2008-10-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I'll also bring this up in AOB at our OSMF meeting later Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk-gb- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OJ W Sent: 28 October 2008 12:55 PM To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] BETT education tradeshow At LinuxExpo, OpenForumEurope

[OSM-talk] Mapping Party Feedback

2008-10-27 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
At the Manchester, UK mapping party, Caroline Hangartner, who is currently doing her Geography dissertation on OSM at Manchester University, was interviewing participants about their involvement in mapping parties. She would very much like to hear from others who have attended other parties and

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Moved to talk Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 24 October 2008 8:25 AM To: OSM-Dev list Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features Matt Amos wrote: i would call that a shop=convenience. what distinction would you draw between them, ronnie barker notwithstanding?

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy has already made the point though that just changing stuff without any notification is not appropriate at all. Anyone is permitted to tag as they see fit so you have know way of knowing if someone is using a tag for other purposes. At a minimum you should be announcing your plans and giving

Re: [OSM-talk] timestamps on tracks - why?

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ryszard Mikke wrote: Sent: 24 October 2008 6:17 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] timestamps on tracks - why? Maybe it's a newbie question, but I don't understand one thing (*) Why there is a need to have timestamps on tracks uploaded to OSM? It's really a pain in the ass when

[OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hi mappers :-) Do you have an hour to spare before Saturday? Would you like to be part of the Manchester Mapping Party [1] but can't get there this weekend? If so then it would be really cool if you could do a little tracing in Manchester to help some new users try out this mapping thing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 23 October 2008 9:25 AM To: Richard Fairhurst Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane On 23/10/2008 09:00, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I also have one in the centre of Sutton Coldfield. Think when I mapped it (ages

Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Christoph Boehme wrote: Sent: 23 October 2008 9:41 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday! Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would suggest you limit the tracing to simply marking

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