Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber
in Israel a boulding on a corner between 2 streets have 2 addreses, one for each street (or even 3 or more...). the local authority register the building just on one of the possible addresses for tax purposes but all of them are valid and usable. the more, each if them have a distinct 7digit zip code in italy, in some cities, each shop facing the street have a distinct house number from the building main entrace (i.e. building is 17 shops are 17/a 17/b.. and a shop spanning more windows could have more than one of them) in venice house numbers are unrelated to the street name but to the neghboorhood (sestriere). in some mountain community, detached houses (maso) sometimes didn't have a house number nor a street name and are referred just by the family name so, the address uniqueness is just a state of mind but we (all of us, i'm not a royal) need to find a way to represent them in a database, something very little flexible. stop arguing about uniqueness and start offering solutions. even it there will be duplicate addresses worls won't collapse. Mostra testo citato Hi Christoph, > You probably have to give a real world example since i have no idea if > you want to say you have a building with a unique address consisting of > addr:street and addr:postcode (could be if there is only one building > at this street or with this postcode) or if you want to defend > pointless or non-verifiable tagging of addr:street for buildings > without a unique address. An example from Germany: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/526129541 https://www.izb.fraunhofer.de/de/impressum.html The whole campus just fills up the complete street. Hence, the street alone makes it already unique. I can confirm from having worked there that it has indeed no housenumber. Best regards, Roland Mostra testo citato Il gio 23 ago 2018, 5:50 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 23/08/18 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > >> On 22. Aug 2018, at 22:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: > >> > >> Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is > >> either pointless or non-verifiable. > > > > as I explained above, we don’t add address tags to buildings in general, > we add them to entrances and pois. > > The royal 'we'? > > Address tags are added to buildings. > Generally these building have no entrances in OSM. > Even where hte building has an entrance or two .. the building still > generally has the address. > > Where no building exists in OSM then addresses are generally nodes with no > other feature. > > That looks to be the practice around me. And it will probably continue to > be the practice. > > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet
my 2 cents: having a 2 layers map, one with local languages rendered, the second with english ones when present as first choice, then local when not Il 25 set 2017 7:14 AM, "Yves" ha scritto: > If the OSMF tile servers were to be used to provide webmaps for a vast > audience, I would understand double labeling in English. > That not the primary purpose, though. > Yves > > Le 24 septembre 2017 23:01:00 GMT+02:00, Matthijs Melissen < > i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> a écrit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to ask for your opinion on the choice of language used in >> the Default map on openstreetmap.org. >> >> This map (based on the openstreetmap-carto style) currently displays >> all labels in their native language (as defined in the 'name' tag). >> For example, we have a label 北京市 for Beijing, a label موريتانيا for >> Mauritania, and a label Magyarország for Hungary. >> >> The openstreetmap-carto team quite frequently receives requests to >> (additionally) display labels in English (or in any case the >> Latin-alphabet). The people making these requests state that the map >> is currently not very usable for an international audience, as many >> people are not able to read labels in for example Arabic or Mandarin. >> Some areas where this problem is particularly visible: >> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803#issuecomment-330782700 >> A prominent case of such a request is from the Gnome Maps team, who >> decided not to use the Default style for this reason: >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764841#c35 >> >> From an ideologic viewpoint, I am very much in favour of not giving >> preferential treatment to any particular language. Using the local >> language seems fair in this respect. On the other hand, from a >> pragmatic point of view I can also see that using English (in >> addition) would significantly increase the usefulness of the map to >> many people. >> >> I would be interested to know what others think about this. An option, >> for example, would be to display countries names, and perhaps the >> names of big cities, in English as well as in the local language. >> >> Note: making the map available in multiple language versions is >> something we like to do in the future, however, this requires quite >> significant technical changes. Therefore, this is out of scope for >> now. >> >> More information on this issue can be found on Github: >> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803 >> >> I'm looking forward to your opinions. >> >> Kind regards, >> Matthijs Melissen >> >> -- >> >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] StreetComplete v0.14
Just installed and started to use it. First impression is good but you should arrange the things to fit the landscape use, right now is quite disturbing Il 13 lug 2017 8:42 AM, "Hans De Kryger" ha scritto: > OH welp that fixes the problem, thanks! > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Alert Bouterse > wrote: > >> Hi Gaurav, >> >> You join the words together like StreetComplete. Then you will find the >> app. >> >> Success, >> >> Alert Bouterse >> >> Op 13 jul. 2017 5:54 AM schreef "Gaurav Thapa" : >> >> Is there a link to the application as I can't find it on the play store >> when I search for 'Street Complete' >> >> On Jul 12, 2017 22:57, "Denis Carriere" wrote: >> >>> Awesome! Can't wait to try out those new features! >>> >>> *~~* >>> *Denis Carriere* >>> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist* >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Tobias Zwick >>> wrote: >>> I am proud to announce that after a long public betatest, the first stable version of the app has been released on Google Play and F-Droid. StreetComplete is a FOSS Android app that aims to enable easy on-survey contribution to OSM for anyone. Specifically, it enables users to extend already mapped data through a simple question-answer format: The app ask questions about things on the map such as "What is the name of this road?" or "How many levels does this building have?" and the user is given a simple form to fill in this information. The processed answers are then directly uploaded as changes to the OpenStreetMap, eliminating the need to (learn and) use another editor for simple contributions. In this first version, the following quests are implemented. Users can contribute: - road name - road surface - to note discussion (only notes that contain a question are shown) - opening hours - bike parking capacity - bus stop shelter - building and roof levels - roof shape - sport played on a pitch More are in the works for the next version. For more information, check out the project's GitHub page (https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete) or search for it in the app store. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >>> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] WMF will donate 35 servers...
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Re: [OSM-talk] Post tastsic questions of my own
SteveC wrote: > are opinions beyond we will all be better. Really. All of you who > have IM'd me or emailed with your kind words, jump in here and keep at > it. We'll build a better world with unicorns and water that runs uphill. > > I replied you privately just because I used a style I usually don't use.. but.. i want to thank you for your email here again! :D I liked your email, the coders-lawyers parallel and the general message it sent. > My second question goes to those who live in the various countries > that aren't bankrupt... oh I mean those that aren't in the UK. How is > the community there? Is it bad? Is it good? How can we help. What are > *you* doing to help? Are you stirring dissent? Are you trying to build > a consensus? Do you think you're cool enough to fork or do you want to > build something better? Because we love you. You are bridging a divide > between the foundation, the evil british empire, and all those poor > non-english speaking souls. Really, you do a lot of work to > communicate between lists what's going on and if you only report the > bad stuff then you're responsible for it.. But I don't think you are, > are you? Because it's much better if we build a consensus and a happy > coexistence of friends toward a free, open, libre, stunning, > beautiful, fantastic map of the world. > You know, we (as italian) are a little bit melodrammatic :D We thought some "evil" derive was acting in the licence writing but i read the draft and i don't found any evillness (as INAL). So, now I will try to do know is to ask italian OSM community to read and comment the draft... Edoardo -- Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi ICT Consultant Tel +39.347.008.00.02 website: http://www.edoardomarascalchi.it skype: My status ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
