Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales

2020-10-16 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi Gruff, hi Ben, On 16/10/2020 14:08, Gruff Owen wrote: The ability to include an :en or :cy tag name field is really helpful for this but it's unfortunate that ultimately we have to choose a single name tag for each place name - giving the impression that one language has precedence over

Re: [Talk-es] Que hay de las AGUAS TERRITORIALES ESPAÑOLAS de CEUTA y MELILLA?

2020-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/10/2020 11:20, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote: El tema del Sáhara Occidental es similar, algún editor o editores decidió/decidieron unilateralmente que se los anexionaba a Marruecos y ahí sigue. Creo que hay documentos de las Naciones Unidas que reconocen que ese territorio no es marroquí.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

2020-10-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/10/2020 08:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 5. Oct 2020, at 00:58, Michael Booth wrote: Not sure I'd recommend JOSM for a 100% OSM newbie unless there was a specific reason or feature required when editing. I would, because they will have to learn from scratch

[Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

2020-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, How do people normally map things like "I know there is a public footpath that goes through here but it is currently inaccessible"? A taginfo search finds a few candidates: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=overgrown#values

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2020 16:28, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: I am importing a subset of nodes from UK (those tagged with amenity:pub) for a pet project. Firstly - welcome! When analysing the data I realised that some of these nodes contain a website: tag that does not contain an appropriate URL

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2020 10:25, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Anyone know if there's a way to at least use a UK based server or to conveniently ping multiple websites directly? In this case I don't see how that helps - it wouldn't detect domain parking pages, which is usually where a domain goes after

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2020 17:43, Dave F via talk wrote: Nick's description is "overgrown, unclear, prone to flooding" These are all subjective interpretations. There are many official PROW's in those conditions. (for the benefit of people outside of England and Wales a "public right of way" is a special

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2020 16:04, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hi, Wondering if there was a consensus on tagging an abandoned, no longer very usable path (e.g. a path which has become overgrown or is unclear and prone to flooding in wetter periods). Something like "path=abandoned"? My 2p: Perhaps use

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/09/2020 00:00, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend <mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: Paul Jo

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea > wrote: Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: > 2. Tagging route information on ways.  It's about a decade too long at this point for ref=* on a way

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Changeset Comments Copyright

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2020 08:49, GITNE wrote: Unfortunately, no. I do not use Slack. So, I cannot provide a specific link or something. What I know is that @SomeoneElse reported that Slack has an automated feed which pulls changesets comments from OSM and republishes them on one of their channels. For

[OSM-talk-ie] Townlands in Monaghan

2020-09-13 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello - Andy from the DWG here. A recent emailer has written (of townlands.ie/monaghan): "This page states that there are 4 Baronies in Monaghan.  There are actually 5 Baronies in Monaghan, Farney is missing from the list. Barony Farney can be found on the website, but not on this page". I

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/09/2020 15:17, Mike Thompson wrote: I will thank Ron for the change and try to start a dialog with our DWG about AllTrails asking their users to contact the DWG directly with map errors. Yes - that'd be great. The wider issues in addition to their support process are that (1) lots

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

2020-09-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/09/2020 10:58, Gareth L wrote: I think the permissive tag is due to it being yet another perceived public space which is actually private, so there’s no public right of way. Would access=permissive or access:bicycle=permissive be sensible? Or is that also mangling tagging conventions. I

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
> How/where was the notes addition proposed and implemented? If I remember correctly, it was done as a "Google Summer of Code" project - effectively a sponsorship deal.  However, that project requires a clone of the OSM website, which is a much harder job than merely doing something with OSM

[OSM-talk] Default access rights (was: Re: Use of OSM data without attribution)

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 08:56, Simon Poole wrote: To add to what Andy has already said, complaints about people using private paths etc are relatively common, not a large number in absolute terms, but there tend to be a couple each month which either land with the DWG, or LWG, or naturally with the local

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 10:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: Nothing is stopping such a system being built at the moment as a 3rd party service, just needs someone motivated enough to build and support it. Yes - exactly that. Until such time as someone writes a "mailing list post to software translator"*

[OSM-talk] Let's think about how we use mailing lists (was: Re: Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !))

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 09:12, pangoSE wrote: Here is yet another example of bad data in our database: (to "pangoSE", via the list): Sometimes it helps to think about how we react to things in the spur of the moment.  Martijn's anecdote was about something that he mapped 9 years ago that was _correct

Re: [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 02:35, Clay Smalley wrote: For those who aren't following, the DWG recently decided on a two-day ban for the person who posted this, for the exact behavior they're exhibiting right now: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3850 Indeed, and it wasn't done lightly - only

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2020 14:43, Mike Thompson wrote: From Ron's quick and positive response to the attribution issue I am guessing he might be open to having a discussion about these other issues. Once the attribution issue is actually fixed, should I send him a note along those lines? Would you (Andy)

Re: [Talk-GB] Eat out to help out data

2020-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2020 09:38, Ken Kilfedder wrote: What data are available in the EOHO set that we don't get from the FHRS? Perhaps "opening_hours:covid19=open"? Even that's a bit tricky - if an establishment is registered with the scheme I guess it doesn't guarantee that it is _currently_ open.

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/08/2020 22:44, Clifford Snow wrote: ...  Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct them to email d...@openstreetmap.org , Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of negative euphoria"* because of the less

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/08/2020 10:11, Stephen Colebourne wrote: And now I can see Amazon mappers using an iD variant that doesn't have the offset and moving all the roads as a result: https://osmcha.org/changesets/89549551?aoi=758c7f2b-faca-44e5-acd2-0cb8c33034bd

Re: [Talk-us] changeset: 89516909

2020-08-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/08/2020 16:43, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: i am looking at the TIRGER  web, show’s the real map online and nothing you did matches. Unfortunately, just saying that does not really help.  What URL are you actually looking at?  Under what licence is the data at that URL made

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/08/2020 14:53, David Woolley wrote: On 14/08/2020 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: If signage on the ground is gone or never existed then route relation should not be mapped in OSM*. In the long term, this could make OSM useless for motor traffic as there is a general

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/08/2020 11:19, pangoSE wrote: I would recommend you to use another way to archive this. Open OsmAnd on your phone and add a POI directly. You can add tags too if you remember them. Then upload directly to OSM. No JOSM or GPX file handling neccesary. I use Vespucci for exactly that (no,

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/08/2020 22:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 2. Aug 2020, at 17:09, Andy Townsend wrote: GPX track waypoint handling is the biggest missing piece of functionality for me, so you can start with that one if you wish I guess this is about not handling symbols

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/08/2020 15:41, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote: Also Linux is the future. Every application that cannot run under Linux will fail in the long run. Remember that Windows shouldn't be the main target platform anymore because it is dying and the society is to blame that they don't get it.

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2020 14:41, Mark Goodge wrote: On 24/07/2020 13:20, Martin Wynne wrote: Most of them go back to OS Explorer when they find UK public rights of way are not shown in different colours on the OSM standard map. This is one of the reasons why it would be nice to have a UK-specific

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/07/2020 12:03, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hi Mark, there's a pretty detailled article in the wiki for e-charging and all the options that come with it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station So yeah, I guess, mapping them is totally OK. Kai Mark Goodge hat am

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-07-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2020 14:47, Richard Fairhurst wrote: As some of you may be aware, Sustrans has embarked on a project to review and improve the National Cycle Network. (also following on from Jon's message) some of the changes near me do seem a bit odd.

[OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in variou

2020-07-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/07/2020 12:10, Hauke Stieler wrote: Those bad armchair-tags, which are mostly wrong, are as good as random values [0]: Those tags are completely useless. Removing those obviously wrong tags is a good idea IMHO. Hello, I'm writing this here because although it's not the same issue as

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] More fantasy mapping

2020-07-19 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, The deleter of the Belturbet bypass has struck again.  Despite a message to show what they needed to do to contribute to OSM in the future https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3792 they added an "N5" past Lough Rynn Castle at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/53.8951/-7.8543

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2020 20:51, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It's perfectly reasonable to add surface=unpaved or similar based on aerial imagery alone, if you have some experience in distinguishing different surfaces of roads and tracks from aerial imagery. I'd agree that most of the time telling

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2020 17:51, Florimond Berthoux wrote: If the estimation was really bad almost all the time why not, but here the example given is ok. How do you know - have you visited that area and done a ground survey? Best Regards, Andy ___ talk

[Talk-GB] TPT / NCN62 (was: Re: National Cycle Network removal/reclassification)

2020-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2020 17:06, Adam Snape wrote: On the subject of overlapping relations. I've recently noticed that the NCN 62 relation has been named Transpennine trail which is true for much, but not all of the route. The TPT ends at Southport, yet NCN 62 continues further North. At the eastern end

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2020 11:53, Michael Reichert wrote: I do not believe that one can add reliable tracktype=* information from satellite imagery without having some ground truth knowledge in order to know how to interpret the imagery in that region. I think that "without having some ground truth

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fingerposts

2020-07-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/07/2020 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote: Maybe: tourism=information information=guidepost ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Dguidepost I don't know a way of recording the directions they point save via destination_sign relations.

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

2020-07-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/07/2020 14:03, David Woolley wrote: On 15/07/2020 14:00, o...@poppe.dev wrote: As this data is pretty much openly accessible, I think there'd be no major issue with asking them if this data could be used to check all the places against OSM data and, if needed correct and/or create them,

Re: [Talk-GB] Great North Trail MTB Route

2020-07-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/07/2020 12:32, Adam Snape wrote: My main concern here is about whether we should be mapping unmarked routes at all and especially whether it is okay to import them without discussion or the explicit permission of the copyright holder. I'd agree with that.  Generally speaking, even

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
(apologies for the double reply) I just remembered I wrote a diary entry last year about this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/391053 . That has some useful links in such as a pointer to the start of "designation" tagging, in 2009:

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/07/2020 12:54, Andrew Hain wrote: I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset in Potlatch 1. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 If Osmose is flagging "highway=footway;foot=yes"

Re: [Talk-es] Porqué no figuran las aguas territoriales de Ceuta y Melilla y la frontera de Marruecos está sobre las costas de esas ciudades?

2020-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/07/2020 09:38, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote: Buscando por aquella vez que "metí las narices en el caso" [1] encontré este changset [2] Por algún lado debe estar mi interacción con la gente que maneja los límites internacionales. [1] https://tinyurl.com/y9n387qk [2]

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Changeset needs reversal

2020-07-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/07/2020 12:07, Andy Townsend wrote: do any others need reverting too? (answering my own question) - yes There was a DWG report about this user last night.  I'm currently reverting their problematic changes from https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87226621 onwards.  Some have

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Changeset needs reversal

2020-07-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/07/2020 16:55, Colm Moore wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87511278#map=13/54.0812/-7.4201 Most of / all this changeset needs reversal, especially the N3, where the bypass was mapped. I would be grateful if someone could help. I see that that one's been done - do any

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/07/2020 18:56, Tom Browder wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 15:18 Tom Browder wrote: ... Okay, I'm making progress, thanks to you all. First, lesson learned (as suggested by all): I used Antarctica pbm as a test bed for import which showed an immediate problem with osm2pgsql. Thanks to

Re: [talk-ph] Rollback of admin boundary edits in the Philippines due to incompatible license (was Re: Alaminos Barangay borders)

2020-07-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/06/2020 08:15, maning sambale wrote: After reviewing the edits and communicating with the mapper, we decided to roll-back all edits related to this issue due to incompatible source. We plan to do this as a local community. Please see the plane here for comments and suggestions:

Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

2020-06-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote: On the other hand, there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.) Interestingly (assuming you're talking about the radar installation at RAF Fylingdales), at least as of my 2006 copy of OS's OL6

Re: [Talk-GB] Documenting tagging practice for place nodes in London

2020-06-25 Thread Andy Townsend
Just to pick up on one point: On 23/06/2020 22:30, Russ Garrett wrote: * The presence of a few archaic place names which were presumably derived from NPE or other historic maps but are generally out of use now. * A surprisingly large number of place names present in OS StreetView are unmapped

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Andy Townsend
In situations like this I'd invite the new mapper to discuss things more widely (which Colin has already done on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624359 ) and then revert the changes pending any discussion here. The new mapper is already aware of the changeset discussion (they've

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-06-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/05/2020 22:43, Lester Caine wrote: On 20/05/2020 20:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: Not copying past answers, at least the last two years or so, would mean we'd have to write all these answers again because the questions will inevitably be asked. I'm with you on that ... I've seen far too much

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Edit Attacks

2020-06-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/06/2020 22:41, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: this is a good one because i had a back and forth discussion with somebody that was calling me out on my edit because from space this looked like a flat surface and then explaned how to list it as non active.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Andy Townsend
> If efforts to resolve the issue through discussion are unsuccessful perhaps this is an issue for the Data Working Group (DWG)?If this is where I think it is, I believe that I'm already offering advice to a complaint from one side of this dispute.  I think that what happened was that 10 years

Re: [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Andy Townsend
> If efforts to resolve the issue through discussion are unsuccessful perhaps this is an issue for the Data Working Group (DWG)?If this is where I think it is, I believe that I'm already offering advice to a complaint from one side of this dispute.  I think that what happened was that 10 years

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM nicknames are Unicode characters? (not Ascii?)

2020-05-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/05/2020 17:29, mbranco2 wrote: 햒햆햘햙햗햔  has all to do with mastro, because it's the surname of a student in an Italian high school where I'm teaching  OSM  :-) It sounds like he's learnt something really useful about the computer representation of written characters! Best Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/05/2020 23:37, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: May 22, 2020, 16:58 by ajt1...@gmail.com: No-one has left any changeset discussion comments: In part because bothering someone who is victim of poorly organized group editing is unlikely to work well. It depends on how engaged they

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/05/2020 16:10, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 5/22/20 4:58 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 22/05/2020 14:45, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 5/22/20 1:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: the "mspray" accounts were blocked in July 2019 for problematic edits and failing to documen

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/05/2020 14:45, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 5/22/20 1:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: the "mspray" accounts were blocked in July 2019 for problematic edits and failing to document properly The "problematic edits" part is still current - this changeset of mine for example is mostly about

Re: [Talk-se] Problem med ortnamnsimporten

2020-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/05/2020 14:38, Ture Pålsson via Talk-se wrote: Är det någon idé att dra in DWG så här långt efteråt? No - email d...@osmfoundation.org if you need to. Obviously it makes sense to talk things through first if you can (I see that Andreas has tried to start that going) Best Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Estimate of number of building=* in Ireland

2020-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/05/2020 03:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie wrote: May 15, 2020, 00:04 by davecor...@gmail.com: The logical approach should be to map it as house/garage/shed etc and ONLY use building=yes if you cannot make an educated guess. Doing otherwise puts this data on the level of the tiger

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-05-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/05/2020 12:28, Paul Berry wrote: Not sure about the tagging/proposal politics but since there are a small number of showgrounds, is there anything to stop a UK-specific page being set up on the Wiki for visibility? As Jez has already said that sounds like an excellent idea. Then if

Re: [Talk-it] Problems near Trieste

2020-05-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/05/2020 18:15, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: Hello Andy and thanks for your interest. Unfortunately, some local mappers already patched the damages. This morning I posted a message [1] in regional ML (talk-it-fvg) in order to evaluate the amount of corrections already done and to choose the

[Talk-it] Problems near Trieste

2020-05-07 Thread Andy Townsend
(apologies for English - rough Italian translation follows) Hello, At the Data Working Group we've had a number of complaints about some edits near Trieste - see http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=10474167 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3675 . They

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/05/2020 11:53, Adam Snape wrote: Hi Tom, I'd consider this particular proposed use of highway=no to mean "there is a public highway here but there's no visible path on the ground" to be a somewhat country-specific and counter-intuitive tagging practice. It's certainly being suggested

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality

2020-05-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/05/2020 14:13, nathan case wrote: Thanks for your input Robert, the approach taken for routes not following the definitive line makes sense - though does this lead to two paths being rendered? Or does highway=no prevent this? I will also add the fixme as Tony suggests. It depends on

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM: Java issue & font size

2020-05-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/05/2020 12:00, Andy Mabbett wrote: I recently upgraded Java on my Windows 10 laptop, to the latest version. Unfortunately, there are several possible "latest versions" - which one do you have installed and what version is it? To give an example on Windows 10 here I have (installed via

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections

2020-05-03 Thread Andy Townsend
In each case nothing will happen unless changesets with bad edits are commented on.  Given that the messages here last month didn't get a reply from Amazon I'm pretty sure that Amazon's mappers or their handlers don't read talk-gb.  Of course - this is a perfect opportunity for them to prove

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2020 11:16, Peter Neale wrote: It seems that we have had 2 of us attempting the same change at the same time. Generally speaking, IRC's better for this sort of request as everyone sees what's happening in real time I hope that the database change  control can cope with this.

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2020 11:09, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: I THINK I have done it. It took a bit of fiddling to separate some shared points, but then I was able to cut the offending line and delete a section at a time (which fitted on the screen). That definitely sounds like "the hard way" :) It

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2020 10:56, Jez Nicholson wrote: Note that the vast majority of the points in the Way were pre-existing. Any fix should leave them in place. On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM nathan case > wrote: I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/04/2020 14:52, Simon Poole wrote: ... I would suggest at least giving a heads up on a suitable country specific medium before proceeding, doing otherwise is just going to lead to strife. It's an import, so the guidelines linked from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import would

Re: [Talk-GB] CWGC: worldwide, war graves

2020-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
That'd work when if I know the reference, but what if I've only seen the sign? On 26/04/2020 13:09, Colin Smale wrote: ref:cwgc=* would kill two birds with one stone, would it not? On 2020-04-26 13:44, Andy Townsend wrote: Hello, How is it suggested to tag "there are commonwealt

Re: [Talk-GB] CWGC: worldwide, war graves

2020-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, How is it suggested to tag "there are commonwealth war graves here"? At least near me, there's usually a fairly large white on green sign near the entrance, so even if it's not something you'd explicitly go out to map, it's often something that you'd notice. Best Regards, Andy On

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile server access

2020-04-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/04/2020 13:53, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to build my own tile server because I have given up on Google Maps and need a replacement. I am getting help on the Github account of @Overv and repo 'openstreetmap-tile-server'. I would like to offer access to my server to others when I get

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/04/2020 18:38, Dave Love wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote: Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Townsend
-to-live/current/verdo-kew-bridge Steve On 30/03/2020 18:58, Andy Townsend wrote: I've sent another "message to be read before continuing to edit" https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3592 . It'd be good if everyone could have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changese

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Townsend
;Reverted edits as many of mine were falsely removed" On 2020-03-25 21:54, Andy Townsend wrote: On 25/03/2020 16:02, Jez Nicholson wrote: Heh, none of the references on the Wikipedia page link to anything mentioning that it exists. I call bullsh/t Indeed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections

2020-03-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/03/2020 15:30, Lester Caine wrote: I would also add that having been FIGHTING the Facebook Places naming process, For the avoidance of doubt, I don't believe that what Facebook (and Instagram, and WhatsApp, et al) "places" are directly related to OSM. At the DWG* we get a huge amount

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections

2020-03-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/03/2020 14:21, ael wrote: Even then working from imagery can be very problematic. One of the Amazon mappers added a variety of roads to a construction site which were actually muddy tracks being used for the construction itself. A minority were destined to become highways or paths.

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

2020-03-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/03/2020 16:02, Jez Nicholson wrote: Heh, none of the references on the Wikipedia page link to anything mentioning that it exists. I call bullsh/t Indeed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tfondie does not look promising. On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:34 PM Andrew Hain

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/03/2020 19:00, Mikel Maron wrote:   But this thread is from Facebook trying to change that. To side step imports. No they're not. It's a couple sections in a blog post that is being wildly misinterpreted. It's perhaps worth remembering how we got here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

2020-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2020 11:18, Andrew Hain wrote: Further issues: Richmond rugby ground tagged addr:city=London Borough of Hounslow Middlesex changed to county Fulwell bus garage tagged name=Fulwell Bus Garage (Middlesex) There are some legitimate edits there such as shop=supermarket for Lidl Fulwell,

[Talk-us] Identifying mappers (was: Re: Taking a break and a call for help)

2020-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/03/2020 00:45, brad wrote: How can I tell who is a one-edit-and-done spam, amazon logistics account, and who is a first edit noob? With Amazon, I think all their editors have profiles that say that they're working for Amazon Logistics.  They'll all have relatively high edit counts. 

Re: [OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

2020-03-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2020 16:44, Mikel Maron wrote: Yikes. Good catch and agreed. Can anyone track the extent of the damage, and prepare to restore the thrown away tags, while keeping the good new data? 28 so far may need looking at:

Re: [Talk-it] etichetta per Carrozzeria ?

2020-03-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2020 01:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: potrebbe andare shop=car_repair anche se poco specifico, ma aggiungerei anche https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/craft=coachbuilder (usato poco ma sembra pertinente) +1 I used that for https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6067347906 . -

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments?

2020-03-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/03/2020 15:36, ael wrote: There has now been had one short reply essentially admitting tagging for the renderer. I haven't replied as yet, but Andy has. In this case it looks like the offending data's been removed, though the tiles haven't rerendered yet (due to the site being busy). 

Re: [talk-ph] Vandalism by user Niwre Erv Apotseg

2020-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
ing from there. Although we do get some vandals who create lots of accounts this is relatively rare in OSM, once actual human beings starting explaining to people why they shouldn't add rubbish to OSM they usually stop. Best Regards, Andy Townsend,

[Talk-GB] Related map vandalism reverted (was: List moderator - volunteers needed)

2020-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
As an aside, I've recently (with a DWG hat on) reverted some "schoolkid vandalism" by an account with a similar-sounding name in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82191956 , and asked the user to get in contact via https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3559 and an OSM PM with the

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/03/2020 13:09, john whelan wrote: I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagged on them and I'm not sure what the logic is. There are 39k "fixme=name" worldwide.  I suspect usage varies greatly worldwide; it would be useful to know which ones you're looking at. The

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2020-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/03/2020 19:57, Andrew Hain wrote: Is there a resource I can point anyone who puts C numbers in the ref tag of roads at? Possibly the best place is previous discussions on this list, or links from there? It's perhaps also worth mentioning that C roads in Scotland in OSM are still

[Talk-es] Comarcas de España

2020-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello again everyone, I just wondered whether the conversation on how to map the Comarcas of Spain had come to any conclusion?  There was a lot of discussion about these in January, but not much since. Best Regards, Andy (apologies for English text; rough Spanish translation follows -

Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

2020-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2020 15:00, Martijn van Exel wrote: You can see the newest created challenges using https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges?sort=created, there is also an API call you can use. Drop me a line if you want some more guidance. Thanks.  What does that API do? Best Regards, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

2020-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2020 11:57, Frederik Ramm wrote: a user started adding "trace_zoom" and "trace_zoom:range" tags to objects in OSM, and closer inspection led to this MapRoulette task: https://maproulette.org/challenge/12836/task/42414493 In this particular example the person creating the task

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-02-24 Thread Andy Townsend
Since I was going through these anyway to see what ought to be rendered at map.atownsend.org.uk, I thought I might as well list them here too.  These are things "tagged a bit like showgrounds, excluding bus stops and car parks", sorted by one of the main tags. I suspect that the ones tagged

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-02-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/02/2020 09:57, Mark Goodge wrote: Morning all, Someone has commented on a change I made to the Three Counties showground last year when I changed the tagging to landuse=grass rather than landuse=commercial. Their suggestion is that it really ought to be landuse=recreation_ground, with

[Talk-se] "reused accounts" being used to make edits in Sweden

2020-02-16 Thread Andy Townsend
ks_by?page=9 and on the following pages. If anyone spots anything odd or has got any other questions you can mail OSM's Data Working Group at d...@osmfoundation.org . Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group. ___ Talk-se mail

Re: [Talk-GB] Features which move...apparently spurious edits: iD bug or "finger trouble"?

2020-02-15 Thread Andy Townsend
> Has anyone seen something similar?  Presumably this could happen to nodes generally, there is no reason to think amenity=post_box is a factor. Exactly that pattern no - but occasionally new users manage to drag nodes by accident. >  Is there any way to identify features which have moved by

Re: [Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-08 Thread Andy Townsend
> I've been looking at IoM, Jersey, and Guernsey which AFAIK have no coverage in the Community Index. As you say, it uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2 country codes via the countryCoder so I'm expanding coverage to ["gb", "gg", "je", "im"]. I believe that there may be an issue

Re: [Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/02/2020 10:55, Jez Nicholson wrote: Personally, I interpret the coverage of Talk-GB and OSMUK to be the same, i.e. Northern Ireland is officially under OSMUK, but for practical reasons mappers may want to interact with OSMIEand the same for Talk-GB + Talk-IE. I think that part of

[Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/02/2020 18:35, Rob Nickerson wrote: >do we cover British Overseas Territories such as Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands? Not as OSM UK CIC. We ended up settling on the British Islands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Islands The data underneath https://openstreetmap.community/

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