[Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

2017-11-23 Thread Gervase Markham
This sounds... vaguely positive? https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-to-unlock-hidden-value-of-government-data Gerv ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-11-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/10/17 01:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Would also be good to see a few suggestions for features. Can we please have blue motorways and green A-roads? :-) Or do people not like green A-roads because so many other things are green? Gerv ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Leicester A

2017-11-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/10/17 00:53, Philip Barnes wrote: > I have not lived in Leicestershire for six years and was not aware of > any changes to the location of A Are you saying it is no longer close > to the main entrance and accessed from Infirmary Close? If I remember correctly, it's currently accessed via

[Talk-GB] Leicester A

2017-10-22 Thread Gervase Markham
I had cause to go to Leicester A on Saturday. It was renewed in April (Google Earth suggests there was a big building project), and the map has not been updated, and so it's not clear on OSM where the drop-off is, or which is the associated multi-storey. The road I think it is, is part

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW changes

2017-05-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 29/05/17 12:02, Brian Prangle wrote: > There's been a suggestion that OSMUK lobbies for the statutory right to > receive copies of the legal orders which change Public Rights of Way as > it can be slow for any official changes to make their way onto the > Definitive Map and then be picked up

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 25/09/16 21:34, Gervase Markham wrote: > The end result is that I still can't type UK postcodes into Nominatim, > the main OSM search engine, and depend on getting useful results back. The maintainers of Nominatim have kindly explained what would be needed to finally fix this:

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-09-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 26/09/16 09:39, Chris Hill wrote: > Please do not add postcode centroids to the map. They are not real, do > not exist and do not belong in the OSM DB. Just so we know, what is your view of the correct way for OSM search engines to allow searching on postcode data from around the world? Do you

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-09-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 25/09/16 21:47, Owen Boswarva wrote: > I can't see any reason why there should be a problem using Code-Point > Open in OSM, now that Ordnance Survey has applied the Open Government > Licence in place of its own licence. If you read further down, the wiki > page gives examples of OSM projects

[Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-09-25 Thread Gervase Markham
I hope this isn't a silly question, but: it seems like all the projects to free the UK postcode database (like npemap and freethepostcode) closed down five or more years ago when the OS release CodePoint Open. However, this data set is not suitable for use in OSM, according to:

[Talk-GB] Parliamentary debate mentions OSM

2016-03-23 Thread Gervase Markham
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2016-03-22a.520.1 And there seems to be some more open data on the way from the OS. Do we know for certain whether or not it will be OSM-able? Gerv ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL

2015-02-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/02/15 13:52, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: In the immediate future, it won't have much effect, since we already had separate permission to use all but one of the OS Open Data products. The exception was CodePoint Open. Once OS updates their licence page

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL

2015-02-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/02/15 11:11, Tom Hughes wrote: Why would it make any difference? As far as I know Nominatim already uses the Codepoint Open data? Well, if it did, wouldn't it be able to find every postcode in Britain? The Results from OpenStreetMap Nominatim section of the search results often turns up

[Talk-GB] OSMF Special General Meeting

2014-11-25 Thread Gervase Markham
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMF_Members_Request_for_General_Meeting It seems to me like this motion, if passed, would cause 3 members of the board to have to resign (Henk, Oliver and Dermot), and mean that those people plus Steve Coast and Mikel Maron could not stand again for at least

Re: [OSM-talk] Key Proposal wheelchair:toilet

2013-06-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/06/13 16:02, John F. Eldredge wrote: In my experience, usually only one stall in a public restroom will have the larger size and handrails needed for wheelchair use. I have only seen a few extra-large restrooms which were equipped to handle more than one wheelchair-using person at a

[OSM-talk] Parking map

2013-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham
The on-street parking restrictions around our church are complex. I'd love to make a map on a web page, where you could put into a form widget: Day of week: Friday Start parking: 8am End parking: 10am and it would colour the sides of the road and the car parks with green (free), yellow (pay), or

[Talk-GB] OFCOM consultation on PAF (postcode address file)

2013-03-15 Thread Gervase Markham
OFCOM is having a consultation on the PAF: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultations/postcode-address-file/summary/PAF.pdf This includes the pricing structure and the possibility of it being made open data. Deadline is 21st March (i.e. soon). Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-02-13 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/01/13 15:38, the Old Topo Depot wrote: You may want to cross post to the broader talk list as well, as I have heard rumors of work related to this but have no knowledge regarding status. I read via Gmane, so I could be wrong, but I thought this _was_ the broad talk list for OSM... Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-02-13 Thread Gervase Markham
(Sorry I'm late back to this discussion.) On 27/01/13 11:39, Richard Fairhurst wrote: If you want to make it happen, the best way to do this is to take part in the project to port the current stylesheet to Carto: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto and to make sure that

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/01/13 14:29, Gervase Markham wrote: Who do we need to talk to or where do we need to file a bug to get this request considered officially? Anyone? Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/01/13 21:23, Christian Quest wrote: You can see what zoom level 19 looks like with Mapnik/cartocss style on http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=19lat=48.87206lon=2.30069layers=B That's so much better than 18; all the shops are labelled. Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 15/01/13 04:09, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: But I would say in any case that the reality as I see it builds increasing need for very high zoom levels. ... I recently switched to OsmAnd on my Android because it zooms upto level 23 Ah, that might be where I saw higher zoom levels. I use

[OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-13 Thread Gervase Markham
My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I'm sure it was once possible to zoom in 1 more level than it is now, on the slippy map on openstreetmap.org. This was useful because often what is simply an icon at z=18 will turn into an icon plus a business name at z=19, particularly when there are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/11/12 17:27, David Prime wrote: Now, my question is whether I should import this into OSM. Obviously the data is very useful (every store is categorised: metro, express, extra, etc) but the licencing situation is murky. Anyone want to weight in on whether I should do an import? I know

Re: [Talk-GB] Searching UK addresses on the osm.org website

2012-03-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/03/12 11:57, Dan Avis wrote: I'm not talking about importing them, because I understand some people are leery of the potential copyright issues, and because it's not an on the ground source. That's fine; I'm side-stepping that question (hopefully!) and instead asking: Can the osm.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Retour de l'autoroute britannique

2011-12-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/12/11 13:13, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Google have finally done it: they've switched from TeleAtlas to Google map data in the UK. Anyone know what that means for routing? There's a bad route near my house which fools people often, like the Sainsburys delivery man. I submitted a correction

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

2011-10-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 04/07/11 13:53, Michael Collinson wrote: At the moment, this excludes Code-Point Open, (postcode) data since they are awaiting a response from Royal Mail who have rights in that dataset. I just dropped in to find out why I still can't search for most full UK postcodes using Nominatim, and if

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 15/07/10 03:27, Liz wrote: A majority of *contributors* have not voted, not even a majority of contributors who edited anything in the last year. Offering a vote to those who paid a fee in pounds or euros to belong to a particular organisation (OSMF) and ignoring the far larger group who were

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/07/10 16:52, Liz wrote: Now Gerv, what is your lower limit? for number of contributors overall? number of active contributors quantity of data? I do not accept that a decision can be made without the numbers being set *first*. OK, let's say we do what you say. I define my limits, you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/07/10 04:18, Kai Krueger wrote: So far the the impressions I got from the members of the licensing group vary from anywhere between e.g. 10% data loss is acceptable to as high as 90% data loss is acceptable (as long as a majority of signed up accounts agree), which means as far as I can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal-talk mailing list archive is broken

2010-06-10 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/06/10 08:54, Tom Hughes wrote: Well editing the archives isn't really a supported operation - you basically do it by going in and editing the raw messages and then rebuilding all the HTML pages that make up the archive. I know it's easy to tell other people what to do, but... if you had

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal-talk mailing list archive is broken

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/06/10 14:58, Tom Hughes wrote: Can it be fixed? Nope. Wow, that really sucks. (Not your fault, of course.) Is there a bug on file with the mailing list manager software? URLs should be permanent, particularly to archives. As Frederik's situation points out, this could be really

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/06/10 10:09, Gervase Markham wrote: My first effort involved an SVG export of the Mapnik image from the main website. This is pretty good; the only problem is that the roads are unnecessarily narrow and so the road names are small and hard to read. In the end, I went with this. I would

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/06/10 20:32, Colin Marquardt wrote: FWIW, these icons here are awesome: http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/ Those _are_ awesome. Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/06/10 11:49, Gervase Markham wrote: It was me who said that, actually. Here are a few comments, mostly in relation to the Mapnik style: Oops. That is, in comparison to the Mapnik style. The comments are, of course, about Osmarender. Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/06/10 19:47, Nick Black wrote: Sorry you've hit problems with our TCs - its certainly not our intention to block your use. So long as you respect the terms of CC-by-SA and don't exceed the limits on the use of our Vector Stream Server, posted here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/06/10 17:46, Gary68 wrote: could you please be a little bit more precise what you don't like at osmarender and especially mapgen.pl? It was me who said that, actually. Here are a few comments, mostly in relation to the Mapnik style:

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/06/10 13:52, Seventy 7 wrote: Yes, Maperitive would be ideal. Although the SVG export is not yet done, quality (ie large) bitmaps can be done with a scale command to smooth out pixellation. I got as far as getting it running (it needs System.Window.Forms; on Ubuntu, run sudo apt-get

[OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi, I'd like to render a map of about a square mile or so of the town of Bromley, in Kent, for the information sheet for my wedding in August (yay!). http://osm.org/go/0EEBWURG I want to make the map, then remove a few bits which I don't need and add stuff to it like bigger labels on some

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/06/10 12:12, Jochen Topf wrote: Cloudmade uses OSM like everybody else under CC-BY-SA. They can't change that license, they can't restrict what you can do with it. But if I use their stylesheets and their site to generate maps, they can restrict what I can do with the resulting

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 14/05/10 23:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It's a frickin' browser plugin, if the browser is letting it access your l337 credit card details then the browser probably ought to address its plugin architecture. Sadly, the definition of how browser plugins work means that they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-18 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/05/10 10:05, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: firefox jetpack Jetpacks are alternatives to extensions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Add-on_%28Mozilla%29 not plugins. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29#Plug-ins_and_extensions for an explanation. I agree the

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/10 23:42, SteveC wrote: You don't seem to make any realistic suggestions for moving forward and just, instead, suggest potlatch is fine as is the front page. That doesn't seem to be in touch with the reality of every newbie who encounters the project, does it? Steve: There's an

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-26 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/02/10 17:19, Tom Hughes wrote: I completely disagree. We're running a project to map the world, not a project to provide an end user site to compete with google maps. I claim false dichotomy. With code, the best way to hook someone into your project is to make it super-easy to get the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/10 21:16, Mike Collinson wrote: - British spelling licence noun used. (can anyone confirm that I am right in leaving verb license, sublicense as is, I am too long abroad). That is correct. In standard (British :-) English, licence is the noun and license is the verb. - defining

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/02/10 17:06, Mike Collinson wrote: At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and OSMF members about the new Contributor Terms. These have been slightly modified and the latest version can be seen here http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/01/10 19:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/1/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com We should remember that the purpose of maps is to represent reality to map users, not to make political points. says who? Maps have always and in all ages been means of

[OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2009-12-26 Thread Gervase Markham
The new Contributor Terms contain the equivalent of a joint copyright assignment to the OSMF. That makes this recent article by Michael Meeks on copyright assignment in free software very relevant: http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/copyright-assignment.html Of course, not all of the pros and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/12/09 09:48, Ed Avis wrote: A related question is that if a fork happened, could it then be merged back into the main OSM project? Just like any other ODbL contribution, this could only be done if the contributors signed the Contributor Terms, or the OSMF agreed to waive the signing of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/12/09 15:14, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Right, so this is one thing that isn't being made so clear. It's been said multiple times that the ODbL transition in summary is the spirit of CC-By-SA taken and made into a proper license for a database. But actually it's the spirit of CC-By-SA +

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 25/11/09 21:59, Roy Wallace wrote: This raises another interesting question, that is, whether highways=* should *necessarily* express logical paths of travel, or whether they are just a convenient way to represent an *area* used as a path of travel, as a placeholder for future, more

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-08 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/10/09 01:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: oh yes, there are. oneway=no, maxspeed=no, drinkable=no, building=no, area=no, noexit=no (really, it is just used 803 times, but we could add it to millions of ways), access=no, actually many tags do have some no-values in the db, also if it

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/10/09 18:19, John Smith wrote: I have no idea about Europe/England to be honest, never been in any European countries. Oops, sorry for the assumption there. Most roads in Australia tend to be named, even some basic concrete slab colvets that aren't even real bridges get named. OK. The

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/10/09 19:15, DavidD wrote: If you have 10 people in the same area chasing an unnamed road then a noname tag isn't going to solve the actual problem. A road in OSM that has been surveyed by a single person is tagged identically to a road that has a dozen gps tracks and has been checked by

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/10/09 15:18, Dave Stubbs wrote: a) what are you actually marking? - no name in OSM -- we know that already - the mapper didn't find a name -- so we shouldn't check again? Probably not, no. Just as when a mapper adds a postbox, someone else doesn't think he's added a postbox. I

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/10/09 05:37, John Smith wrote: It sounds like he made it to see which roads needed surveying to acquire their name, however I'm still confused why people use noname=yes when the street does have a name but not a street sign, as I posted before there is actually a few streets near here on

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/10/09 16:49, Jonathan Bennett wrote: It's useful *as a guide*, or a tool. What some people seem to be unable to grasp is that *it's OK for a road to appear in red on NoNames*. You don't have to eliminate them completely. It's just a guide, not a gospel. A road appearing in red means that

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-05 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/10/09 11:04, Dave Stubbs wrote: As the person whose first came up with a no-names map for London (well, actually it was a named map of London, turned into a nonames map on SteveC's suggestion), I have an *official leadership announcement* to make: There shall be no tagging of unnamed

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 06:00, John Smith wrote: No we need a committee to decide upon a core set of values that people should use where possible instead of naming the same thing 10 different ways, the argument over boolean values just highlights the point. OK, sorry, I thought that someone was

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 04:00, Matt Amos wrote: are you suggesting that the best way forward is for some authority to decree that there is One True Way of tagging noname roads and forcing all mappers, editors and renderers to support it? No, the best way forward is for some authority to decree that there

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 00:49, DavidD wrote: Just start making the decisions and build the thing on top of OSM. It wouldn't even be that difficult to start off. Just take planet.osm and strip unapproved tags and build up from there. So OSM is in a state where it only becomes usefully consistent if you

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 01:08, Frederik Ramm wrote: It may be your way to try and understand a conversation by looking not at what has been said, but at who said it and what that might reveal about their personal situation, upbringing, education, employment or other circumstances. I'm used to this from

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 05:16, Andrew Errington wrote: If you see a street on the map with no name displayed you might think one of two things: 1) The street has no name (and you might hum a tune by U2) 2) The street has a name but it has not been recorded Either way, it doesn't matter. It darn well

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/10/09 09:24, James Livingston wrote: Just do what I and a lot of other people have done - give up on the wiki being useful, and just go ahead and tag it however you like, checking tagwatch and similar to see what other people are actually using. tagwatch tells you what tags people are

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 04:14, Russ Nelson wrote: I'm tired of this silly true/false 1/0 yes/no up/down left/right in/out fore/aft port/starboard debate/debacle. It's trivial, it's stupid, we could just as easily toss a coin as engage in any rational debate about how binary values should be expressed.

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 04:26, John Smith wrote: I still like Shaun's idea of a committee We really, really need a committee to decide what values we are going to standardize for binary true and false? If that's true, we are doomed. How on earth are we going to make any difficult decisions stick? Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 10:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: If we have open issues in the community that we cannot find a good solution to, then the reason for this is not that we simply lack a good Führer who tells us what is right and what is wrong; Frederik, I may be entering dangerous waters here, but I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
this, and that is that the information necessary to produce a tailored and consistent dataset has been preserved. Say there was an Andy Allan scheme of tagging which rated highways from 1 (biggest) to 10 (smallest). There's also a Gervase Markham scheme of tagging which rates them from 1 (smallest) to 10 (biggest). How does one

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 28/08/09 13:07, wynnd...@lavabit.com wrote: On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: lock=yes lock_name=Withrington Bottom Lock When you are tagging a way, you can't use name= because that will already contain the name of the canal. Hence lock_name=. Why would you want to repeat the

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dlock_gate Shows to tag both ends of the lock. If there is a name just to use name. This was the original tag. However, it has various problems - for example, it makes it hard to render a lock as a single

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/08/09 14:27, Mike Harris wrote: On a related canal issue, I have a problem with deciding how to tag a canal bridge as a segment of a way. The way will often already have name= and ref= tags as a highway; but I want to add a name= and ref= tag for the canal bridge. Not keen on name_1 or

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 26/08/09 21:42, Mikel Maron wrote: IMO, the wiki should reflect the current collective thinking. If the collective thinking is in disagreement, then the wiki should show both sides, equally, with _respectful_ disagreement. If, however many years after starting the project, we are in

Re: [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 10/08/09 15:49, Tom Chance wrote: - Tags are proposed on the wiki, no change to current practice - If the proposal throws into question existing, accepted tags, defer the proposal to small working groups - These working groups study the wider questions and formulate a complete proposal for

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/07/09 09:26, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) wrote: much more. Since many countries have two different signs for max legal height and max physical height, and its usages can be very different, why not allow this in tags? Can you provide sample images for such signs? I confess I find it hard

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-07-13 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/07/09 12:13, Stephen Gower wrote: Actually, for what it's worth (probably very little) the very original file is provided as a PDF on the section of http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_every_post_box_that marked from Royal Mail Group and dated 13 June 2008. The only reason

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/07/09 20:53, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: People care because it has been standardized and is being implemented by major players: http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html Here's a bookmarklet which will geolocate you using the API, and redirect you to a map of your location with a

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/07/09 10:51, Frankie Roberto wrote: The most obvious implementation we could do would be where users visit the slippy map without having a location set in their cookie. Currently we guess at a location via IP address, but it would be good (and not difficult) to use the geolocation API

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-07-01 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/07/09 11:18, Ed Avis wrote: Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? Yes. But have you checked with Matthew Somerville, the author of that tool? AIUI it's already integrated with OSM. I did the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-06-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/06/09 06:56, SteveC wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy_-_Discussion_Draft The Mozilla project has a privacy policy which I would suggest is rather friendlier, while still being lawyer-approved - at least, US lawyers. I'm sure I could arrange for you to be able

Re: [OSM-talk] petition

2009-06-08 Thread Gervase Markham
On 04/06/09 14:25, Josh wrote: hello there is a very important petition in my signature I would appreciate if you would sign it please. Hi Josh, Do you know about NVDA? http://www.nvda-project.org/ It's a high-quality, free and open source screen reader for Windows. There are also free

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based printed directory, possible?

2009-06-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/06/09 21:16, Matías Iturburu wrote: Lately we have been interested in osm and, after noting that our town isn't in osm, we would like to upload all our catography to osm (it's quite a chunk of data). As a matter of taste we would like for the tiles on our (printed) maps, to be the same

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based printed directory, possible?

2009-06-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/06/09 09:10, Gervase Markham wrote: In practice, that means putting an small attribution credit on the map. And, as a private emailer pointed out, to allow anyone to copy it without paying a fee. Which might be thought to be a big deal, but you can hardly reproduce an atlas

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap mention on slashdot

2009-05-27 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/05/09 20:51, Yann Coupin wrote: Just saw this, thought you might be interested... OpenStreetMap Sends UK Volunteer Mapper To Antigua http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/lBKqJKP3gSE/article.pl Yes, we've been submitting the press release to various places. Feel free to send

Re: [OSM-talk] Corine Land Cover becomes a potential OSM data source...

2009-05-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 14/05/09 11:23, Christoph Boehme wrote: We are currently importing public transport information for the UK (NaPTAN) and are having a similar problem with existing data in OSM. Our approach is to tag the imported data specially so that it can easily be found in the database but does not show

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/05/09 14:23, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sounds like: We have a honest desire to sue the shit out of you if you violate any of our 52 random rules but we will grudgingly refrain from doing so if laws in your jurisdiction should have the nerve of being against us. ;-) That's only if the rest

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/05/09 09:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Claiming copyright on something where you are not reasonably sure of actually having it is, in my eyes, a FUD maneouvre worthy of players like the OS, but something that we should make an attempt to steer clear of. The way of avoiding it seeming to be

Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

2009-04-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/04/09 18:32, Jani Patanen wrote: Actually, for a while now mkgmap has been able to create maps where you can search for streetnames. Brilliant! Are there docs on this anywhere? Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

2009-04-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/04/09 09:42, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The Garmin eTrex Legend HCx was what we went for for running mapping parties and they are very popular with attendees. Very easy to use, has a high sensitivity receiver (a must), displays OSM mapping, logs a new track file to the SD

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 14/03/09 20:32, Ulf Möller wrote: OSFM is trying to get ODbL 1.0 in place as soon as possible and fix problems in version 1.1 later on. The difficulty with doing that is that people who are approached about relicensing their data might say no, because the licence is broken in ways X, Y and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Reverse-Engineering Maps and Share-Alike Licences

2009-03-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/03/09 15:29, Rob Myers wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Gervase Markhamgerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: On 08/03/09 21:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sure; but how likely is it that we'll still be at ODbL v1.0 at that time? Since our license can be upgraded to a later version, so can the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Reverse-Engineering Maps and Share-Alike Licences

2009-03-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/03/09 21:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sure; but how likely is it that we'll still be at ODbL v1.0 at that time? Since our license can be upgraded to a later version, so can the list of compatible SA licenses for Produced Works. We could; but not every SA license is well-known. For maximum

[OSM-legal-talk] Reverse-Engineering Maps and Share-Alike Licences

2009-03-07 Thread Gervase Markham
The question has been raised in these discussions about the ODbL's reverse-engineering provisions, and their compatibility or otherwise with share-alike licenses. Here is my analysis and suggestions. 1) The ODbL wishes to prevent people regenerating the Database from Produced Works. ODbL

Re: [OSM-talk] It's all too fast...

2009-03-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/03/09 10:56, Dair Grant wrote: People have been talking about the licence issue for years (literally; there was an hour-long panel about it at SOTM 2007), and we have nothing to show for it other than a large number of I'm not a lawyer, but... threads. We know there are issues with the

Re: [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-04 Thread Gervase Markham
On 04/03/09 04:28, SteveC wrote: We blame Steve because he's evil. We blame the process because it took too long. We blame the working group for not being quicker. We figure the foundation must be culpable. We write long rants about how it's a dire emergency... I don't see any of that, at

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-04 Thread Gervase Markham
On 04/03/09 10:51, MP wrote: Thayt is the worst thing - now you don't know who will agree to new license and who don't (unless you have some magic crystal ball). So you don't know which data are going to be removed and how much of them would it be until the last moment. Right. And then we

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/03/09 09:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: 4. People who don't dislike ODbL per se but dislike the manner in which it was brought about, and thus feel rushed/excluded. People who make sensible suggestions for improvement but see their suggestions brushed away or simply ignored because this would

[OSM-talk] It's all too fast...

2009-03-03 Thread Gervase Markham
The GPLv3 public revision process was 18 months in multiple phases, and it was based on an existing licence. We are trying to analyse a completely new and untested one and get it to a final version in 1 month. I don't advocate the N years that the GPLv3 took, but currently the plan says: 2nd

Re: [OSM-talk] It's all too fast...

2009-03-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/03/09 18:23, Andy Allan wrote: We've been talking about the ODbL for a lng time now, way more than 18 months. It's not completely new. The previous draft was dated April 2008. If you're new to the discussions, then welcome, but don't make like the ODbL has never been seen before and

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-01 Thread Gervase Markham
On 28/02/09 12:21, 80n wrote: What percentage of data would other people feel willing to see sacrificed in order to move forward with the new license? We should probably exclude mass donated data as 90% is probably TIGER anyway. So what percentage of *user contributed* data would other

Re: [OSM-talk] Greenland street and aerial geodata to OSM

2009-02-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/02/09 11:43, GIS wrote: By a donation we are able distribute data to osm, google and yahoo. Data are in DGN and TAB formats. How do we get further on uploading on osm? We might need help due to slow internet connections in the Arctic. Hi Karl, That's great news :-) The difficulty is

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Towpath relation: voting open

2009-02-05 Thread Gervase Markham
When making canal maps, it is useful to know which way is the official towpath for the canal. Determining this programatically without a relation would be difficult and prone to error, so I have proposed a simple relation to associate the two. Voting is now open:

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