Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" on Dartmoor

2017-09-25 Thread Kevin Peat
On 25 September 2017 17:13:01 BST, ael wrote: >On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 01:36:22PM +0100, SK53 wrote: >> Moor (or possibly fell) covers a decent amount of Corine data >imported >> across Europe as natural=heath. In effect natural=heath on OSM no >longer >> means heath.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin Peat
On 15 March 2014 08:22:26 GMT, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Am 14.03.2014 12:43, schrieb o...@k3v.eu: IMHO, share alike is just like DRM on music What??? Come on, don't be foolish! DRM tries to prevent any reuse of date whereat Share Alike just requests to offer the data under

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

2014-02-01 Thread Kevin Peat
I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield. Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence use of data

2013-12-04 Thread Kevin Peat
Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: Case in point (green dots on OS Explorer, sort of track on NPE, nothing in OS Streetview, perfectly good track for 4x4s (maybe even cars - memory is fuzzy now) mountain bikes). Something I've mapped  (Potlatch2 claims AndyS has modified it - but then

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-13 Thread Kevin Peat
Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: It's not obvious at all, I even think this would have several negative effects: - rewarding contributions one way or another (like giving acces to some additional service) may push quite bad quality contributions (gamification for example is to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-12 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote What do I think? I think code counts - good quality, robust, deployable code. Routing will happen on the front page pretty much instantly if someone comes up with a top-quality UI and the resources to make it happen. So far they haven't. You can have

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread Kevin Peat
On 14 May 2013 11:43, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: We would be alpha all the way into 2016 then. Really, we've been told that HTML5 SVG are taking over vector graphics for the web for nearly 5 years now. There are still painful holes in the implementations. Without things like

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread Kevin Peat
On 14 May 2013 13:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 14/05/13 13:14, Kevin Peat wrote: I would imagine that most OSMers would have (at least) Firefox and Chrome/Chromium installed. If iD doesn't work so well on Firefox yet then why not put up a dialog at the start of a session

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread Kevin Peat
On 14 May 2013 13:36, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: And some of us find the conditions G$ put on chrome is a reason NOT to have anything to do with it. It's bad enough the pressure to change for spurious reasons without having OPEN projects like OSM making the same demands :( Use

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread Kevin Peat
Lester, On 14 May 2013 14:30, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But I'm have been more than happy with seamonkey for many years so why would I switch to something else just because someone thinks they know better :( When they get proper email support back ... there may be a reason to

Re: [Talk-GB] Usage of lanes / turn restrictions versus multiple ways when road is not divided

2013-05-09 Thread Kevin Peat
On 9 May 2013 13:06, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: What do people think of this: http://osm.org/go/0EQSJEoZT-- (aerial: http://binged.it/10kuDNm ) and this: http://osm.org/go/eu6_VCkLp-- (aerial: http://binged.it/16js1Ye ) These look good to me. I have mapped a number of

Re: [Talk-GB] Review of Skobbler

2013-05-03 Thread Kevin Peat
Interesting, although Privacy-conscious Apple fanbois seems like it might be a very small market and why do the media often call the project OpenStreetMaps, where does that come from? Kevin On 3 May 2013 10:19, david da...@avoncliff.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Natural England Data

2013-05-01 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 1 May 2013 19:42, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Am I correct in assuming we cannot use this data. It talks about OGL but also mentions 3rd party and OS (again!!) http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/ This dataset was discussed on the list

Re: [Talk-GB] the brilliant and constantly improving Wikipedia of maps

2013-04-30 Thread Kevin Peat
On 29 Apr 2013 22:01, Rovastar rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: Great however the OSM referenced has been shoehorned in there (not complaining though), as the cartographers mentioned finding the new 2000ft mountain just seemed to use Ordinance Surveynotably the wrong height appears on OSM and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin Peat
On 25 April 2013 11:14, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: The folks who drafted the EU DB directive most likely were not aware that in a near future, a person from a country A could put data about country B in a DB inside a computer in a country C... But in their world view

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, On 24 April 2013 11:55, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com wrote: I think the problem is back Is it not just a browser caching issue? Looks okay to me in Firefox and Chromium and I took a look at the way in josm and couldn't see anything wrong. Kevin

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin Peat
Brad, On 24 April 2013 16:17, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: Strange, as I find it to be okay on the French map, and broken on streetmap.org. I assume you mean openstreetmap.org ? Most of the time stale tiles are due to them being cached by the browser. In Firefox you can hold down

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Peat
Following up on this, On 9 April 2013 17:15, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Interesting - thanks. That tallies with the Sustrans website and suggests that the DfT-sourced alignment in OSM right now is wrong (probably an old proposed route)... I went up to Newton Abbot

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, On 9 April 2013 09:31, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Hi all, Is anyone able to verify the existence or otherwise of NCN 28 from Exeter to Dartmoor, as shown on OSM right now? Ashamed to say I am not at all familiar with NCN 28 despite the low zoom map on Sustrans

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Replying to my own post, On 9 April 2013 10:44, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote: I assume the open section they are talking about on their website is the new path and bridge around the back of Newton Abbot racecourse which I have ridden a couple of times and does I think have some NCN signage

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on BBC TV

2013-04-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On 8 April 2013 12:13, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: ...I think it was this website: http://www.netweather.tv/indeI think it would be nice to have a wiki page OSM spotted in the wild or notable OSM use,

Re: [Talk-GB] Named street shown as missing on ITO OSM analysis

2013-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Donald, On 29 March 2013 10:36, Donald Noble drno...@gmail.com wrote: Hullo all, Wondering if anyone can shed any light on this. I added a street/name following a survey a couple of weeks ago, but it is still showing as missing on the ITO OSM analysis map. Should be name = Columba Terrace

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref

2013-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 29 March 2013 15:25, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Many Thanks I'll use the code without the county council letters as this is what is in the name tag in JOSM. I'll debate as to whether to split the path number according to the last number as this would require

Re: [OSM-talk] Crossroad names

2013-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2013 15:00, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Currently ist's really hard for anyone (not just Europeans) to do any change to the mapnik style due tu its complexity. That's why nobody really works on it; not because they don't care but because its freaking hard to get the

Re: [OSM-talk] Crossroad names

2013-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2013 16:38, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: What makes you think money is the problem? Money could help to speed up the process by buying time which people may not be able to give as a volunteer. Crowd sourcing map data works great because it is fun (for OSMers at least!) but

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible Boundary Vandalism Warning

2013-03-23 Thread Kevin Peat
Colin, On 23 March 2013 14:24, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up... User SemanticTourist has been very busy recently with Neighbourhood Plan areas, particularly in East/West Sussex, Kent and central England. He has been adding them to the map in

Re: [Talk-GB] Mid Devon Mappers - on your marks...

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin Peat
On 19 March 2013 08:49, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: In case anybody has been updating OSM by removing the apostrophes, you might need to put them back again... Most of the councils down here are so strapped for cash that I have been waiting for one of them to argue that as

Re: [OSM-talk] Build your own GPS receiver

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Peat
Florian, On 18 March 2013 14:32, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote: I'd rather go for getting your own OS running on a commercial GPS available e.g. the Garmins getting you DIY GPS receiver running is probably not that hard - but for what purpose? It'll neither be better on battery life,

Re: [OSM-talk] Build your own GPS receiver

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Peat
On 18 March 2013 15:20, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote: Why would that be a waste of time? One could workaround e.g. replace the Garmin stuff and let the multitude of OSM tags be displayed, probably even with a user preference... Wouldn't it be better to just start with an Android device

Re: [OSM-talk] Build your own GPS receiver

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Peat
On 18 March 2013 16:18, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote: Show me a smartphone with the screen turned on, gps running which lasts more than 3 hours... You are right there, but I wasn't really thinking of a phone. I have a Nexus 7 + waterproof case and *if* the screen was brighter it would make

Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas

2013-03-12 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 11 Mar 2013 21:27, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for tracks that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e.

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-03-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 28 Feb 2013 23:08, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: ...looks excellent as a get away from it all destination... Bring some good boots as it's pretty muddy after 6 months of rain. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-03-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 1 Mar 2013 13:48, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Looks like I'm missing something here as I always assumed Dartmoor was a moor, given its name. Is there a reason for moors being tagged as heaths? http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/protectedsites/sacselection/sac.asp?EUcode=UK0012929

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data

2013-02-27 Thread Kevin Peat
Aidan, On 27 Feb 2013 09:04, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Please don't load this data into OpenStreetMap. It's not a good idea. 100% agree with Andy. To be acceptable your script would need to do at least as good a job as mappers could do by hand which I don't think is possible

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data

2013-02-27 Thread Kevin Peat
Aidan, On 27 February 2013 11:12, Aidan McGinley ... I've only included the highest quality data which is postcode centroids that fall within a building within the area of the postcode... Does that allay any concerns about the import? Does the centroid always fall within the postcode area?

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone you'd never heard of sent you an unfriendly message

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 21:14, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: ...He copied data from a local newspaper article to name a road wrongly... Mauls might be wrong in this case but the name of a road in the local paper isn't copyrighted. It's a basic fact, the newspaper didn't create it and they

Re: [OSM-talk] advice for getting a newer Garmin nüvi car navigation device?

2013-02-14 Thread Kevin Peat
On 14 Feb 2013 01:10, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Annoyingly, most of the cool goodies like on-screen speed limit and overspeed alert and lane assist aren't available in the mkgmap output as far as I can tell¹... I have rolled my own OSM based maps for years using mkgmap for Etrex and an

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Kevin Peat
On 13 Feb 2013 12:59, Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, Is there some way to display the names of crossroads on the OSM map? place=locality Kevin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Kevin Peat
On 13 Feb 2013 14:20, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote +1, place=locality is generally a generic placeholder, which should/could be substituted by the time we dig deeper into toponyms and develop more specific classes... Well a place is just a named geographical location and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Speed limits on Garmin

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 Feb 2013 18:33, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: What's the best tool to get Garmin devices to show maxspeed on screen? ... I would like to be proved wrong but AFAIK this isn't possible. You could generate a garmin map with roads coloured by speed limit but probably not worth the

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Nick, On 11 February 2013 12:59, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: If you're interested in trying it out... I installed the apk on a Nexus 7. The smallish downloadable packaged maps are great and the render is nice and clear which is good for mobile devices. I did notice a

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 Feb 2013 18:06, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: ...I'm guessing most pois have a node even if they have an area as well. That might be the case today but I am assuming that as more buildings are added then more and more POI's will just be areas. Mkgmap has a feature to

Re: [OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-03 Thread Kevin Peat
On 3 Feb 2013 00:31, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote: ...They don't contribute to the mapping that is presumably our primary interest. Open source projects have a philosophy about them, they are not just a pile of data and source code. Although the term 'geocode' is not core to OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Fowey estuary coastline problem

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, On 30 January 2013 08:00, Jason Woollacott wool...@hotmail.com wrote: This relates to some work I did on the Cornish county boundary a while back, the same also has happened at Newton Ferrers, just south of Plymouth. I had been meaning to ask you about the boundary changes you made.

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Fowey estuary coastline problem

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Peat
://csmale.dev.openstreetmap.org/os_boundaryline/ I wish I knew the reasoning behind it... I can understand the boundary being at the low water mark, but it seems very odd just to draw it across at Dittisham. Jason -Original Message- From: Kevin Peat Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:48 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] Wow, Google Maps now has detailed maps for North Korea!

2013-01-29 Thread Kevin Peat
On 29 January 2013 10:58, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: comment. I tried that too and gave up. However, it's also covered by CNN Also covered by the BBC (seems like no comments) and Map Maker also got a good mention on BBC Radio 4 over breakfast this morning.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-26 Thread Kevin Peat
On 25 Jan 2013 22:20, Apollinaris Schöll ascho...@gmail.com wrote: have used Vespucci until a year ago. At that time the user interface was way to complicated. I know it has improved since but cant test anymore without a Android device. I've used Vespucci a fair bit recently on my Nexus 7.

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Barry, On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... The Devon kml data looks spot on now. thanks, Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 23:22, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: The Converted kml file for Devon on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Great, thanks. Each path has a name, e.g.: DN Seaton Footpath 2 It would help if you gave

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 January 2013 09:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: highway=track, access=yes, designation=unclassified_highway ...makes sense to me for those I have seen. These tracks have no signage at all but clearly there are public access rights which would be nice

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... Thanks for that. I'll check it out and let you know (will probably be tomorrow now). Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 15:02, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: Since the public rights of way tagging using designation=* is a very British (actually English and Welsh) thing, I doubt it will ever be rendered on the main OSM map. :-( I don't really see why that

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: ... Thanks for that. Any thoughts on whether they should be specifically tagged in OSM? Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 19:38, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote Ideas welcome (I've not seen enough examples to get an understanding of what these roads are actually like on the ground - photos ... This is one: http://m.google.co.uk/u/m/R9HAqI The ones I have surveyed are glorified farm

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 21:42, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Which kml file are you referring to? Please give me a URL so that I can download the kml and check... The Converted kml file for Devon on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Kevin

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Roland, On 21 January 2013 08:37, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Dear all, have you ever been annoyed that Mapnik doesn't render a name for a street or a pub, although you are interested in? Really nice and would be great to see it on osm.org. It is just a shame that so

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
On 21 January 2013 13:49, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Having the icons on the map is unlikely possible, because there might be simply not enough space on the Mapnik map. Maybe so but having clickable POI's is a lot less useful if loads of them don't render. A lot of common

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2013-01-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 1 Jan 2013 20:34, Richard Fairhurst richard@systeme... Until then, the advanced mappers must share in OSM's collective responsibility to keep the project editable by newbies. That's why I believe widespread farm landuse mapping in the countryside is an actively harmful indulgence.

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a police station not a police station?

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 December 2012 09:36, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: Many police services are considering providing front counter services out of post offices, cafes, supermarkets! + libraries as they have done in my town. I would suggest that we continue to use amenity=police both for police

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Footpath segmentation

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Bill, On 30 December 2012 22:52, Bill Chadwick bill.chadwi...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested to hear how council released prow data has / has not been used within OSM to add to or replace existing contributed path data. Hants and Devon have released PROW data but sadly many of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Steven, On 31 Dec 2012 21:19, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: I mapped a small area with landuse and some fences months ago but refrained from doing anymore because not many others appear to be doing it. You can see what I did here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-10 Thread Kevin Peat
On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM but I don't see the point of adding road schemes to the db before contracts are awarded. The South Devon Link Road near me was in

Re: [OSM-talk] fences, trees and houses

2012-11-21 Thread Kevin Peat
On 21 November 2012 09:23, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: I wouldn't have tagged the driveways with access=private unless there was a sign that actually says so. Not because of any rendering issue, but because I am lazy and it doesn't really add any information. I think service=driveway

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Problem with an Etrex 20

2012-11-19 Thread Kevin Peat
On Nov 19, 2012 7:32 PM, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: The supplied cable is a small one, about 1ft long, if that helps. Same here, I have a 20 and it only mounts with the supplied cable which is about 15cm. Kevin ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-06 Thread Kevin Peat
On 6 November 2012 09:28, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: A public domain street sign does not become automagically a copyrighted derivative work just because you see it through a copyrighted photo. And this is true worldwide, not only in some countries. Isn't the real point that regardless

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 October 2012 18:14, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Making this sort of distinction (what can have a postcode) is incredibly difficult - for instance NCP carparks do have a postcode. Shame about that, but if someone does a full postcode search and there are OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-10-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 October 2012 14:50, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: I think this is quite a confusing approach. Post code searches often end up returning the wrong street that is also near the centroid, houses that don't belong to that post code that happen to be nearby, and also weird objects like

Re: [Talk-GB] importing house shapes

2012-10-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 16, 2012 9:15 PM, Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com wrote: Hi Talk-GB, Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong list. ...I have a huge preference for Potlatch over JOSM... You can get therapy for that :] In JOSM you can press Q after drawing a building to cure the wobbles, not sure

Re: [OSM-talk] Who is a good mapper? Who isn't?

2012-10-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 10 October 2012 21:22, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What are the results? ... The most common comment quality is 18. Half of all accounts have comment quality from 13 to 36. Bots usually have comment quality under one. Equating changeset comment quality with mapper quality is

Re: [Talk-GB] Garmin eTrex 30 - just reduced on amazon

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 8, 2012 3:15 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: today.. Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49 Thanks Peter. I've been humming and hahing (however it is spelled) for ages about whether to get one or not. So I now have, via the Amazon link here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

2012-09-28 Thread Kevin Peat
On 28 September 2012 15:13, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: yes, but often when something is wrong, the source-tag is as well ;-). I have seen lots of source=PSG (coastline) where the data obviously was far too detailed to be from PSG, it is because people hardly remove

Re: [Talk-GB] Donington Park

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Peat
Haven't been to Donington for a couple of years but the only recent change to the track itself that I am aware of is them moving the final chicane back a few metres as shown in this image. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donington_as_of_2010.svg Kevin On 8 May 2012 14:29, SomeoneElse

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Kevin Peat
On 5 May 2011 11:41, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: getting people interested in (say) the southwest? area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or There's me, living just off Exmoor. Time limited, but I do what I can. Ditto myself, around Torbay and on Dartmoor.

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Kevin Peat
On 3 May 2011 15:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to imply that relations are faster / less manual work requiring when entering addresses manually with one of the OSM editors, but from my own experience they require at least the same (manual) work, if not more.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On 16 April 2011 17:00, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Isn't it funny how, just over a year ago, we couldn't care less about anything the Ordnace Survey did, and suddenly we are a project that must choose their license according to what is compatible with OS? ... I say to you the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On 16 April 2011 19:42, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If people are indeed doing that then I would *definitely* suggest the fresh air option, no matter what we intend to do license-wise; see recent imports discussion on talk-gb (Adding a further 250,000 roads quickly using a Bot).

Re: [OSM-talk] stat pr0n

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Peat
On 13 April 2011 15:32, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Where to start. There's the obvious ones like most active contributor per region, first 100 nodes / ways (that persist), one /two/five-year contribution anniversary, first dog waste disposal bag dispenser in your home town, etc.

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 April 2011 20:14, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, its not about the license at all - if you appeal to fans of licenses you'll attract nobody. Google will take potential users by providing an awesome end product; the sort if thing everyone can appreciate. Make some

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Compliance timeline

2011-04-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On 8 April 2011 11:38, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ed, transfer rights to the OSMF I believe that this is the (only) critical issue. To be open contributions need to be given freely and without restriction, so as to avoid the current situation where some contributors

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapdust Newbie Question

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
On 29 March 2011 17:14, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: I think the roundabout symbol is where the user raised the bug - MapDust seams a rather apt name in my experience though - Dust doesn't serve any useful purpose (in reality) and neither does mapdust's bugs. Kev Despite the low

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapdust Newbie Question

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Well I find it encouraging that people are using OSM otherwise what is the point of us making it? The fact they are too stupid to work a satnav is probably true as most members of the crowd are unfortunately idiots. The mapdust folks just need to take that into account by stopping people raising

Re: [OSM-talk] the coastline

2011-03-22 Thread Kevin Peat
to the list as well On 22 Mar 2011 16:58, Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com wrote: On 22 Mar 2011 10:41, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Robin's point stands - should we mark the low water mark and the high water mark and render the littoral zone differently? I guess it is part

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space). I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers should handle leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereof, and

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Kevin Peat
He added these tags to some dual carriageway in my area that already had speed limit tags. I was just going to delete them as they seem pointless. Anyone know otherwise? Kevin On 13 Mar 2011 12:28, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf.

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-03-06 Thread Kevin Peat
Russ, You are spot on with this. I don't think UK contributors would currently be madly tracing OS data into OSM if it was easy to produce a complete UK map from OSM surveyed data with the missing bits filled in from the OS dataset. Until better tools are available people are going to keep

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2011-02-25 Thread Kevin Peat
Is there any reason to still have the NPE layer accessible from the editors. It was useful in the pre-OS/Bing days but seems like a liability now? Kevin On 25 February 2011 17:47, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I have edited coastlines in Cornwall last summer and they are still not

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-21 Thread Kevin Peat
Peter, The point isn't whether or not your tool will create correct route relations but what the point of doing that would be. I can understand creating route relations for long distance cycling/hiking paths that people actually want to navigate and historic routes (Route 66 comes to mind as a

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-21 Thread Kevin Peat
You don't need a route relation to do that just a ref tag. Kevin On 21 February 2011 17:40, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: Navigation, for starters : turn-by-turn indications are improved by being able to mention turn left on route 35. Besides, it is static geographic data

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-21 Thread Kevin Peat
to be done, some of which is tedious and easily performed by computers. ~ Peter Budny Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com writes: You don't need a route relation to do that just a ref tag. Kevin On 21 February 2011 17:40, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: Navigation

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
This is a very good point. In the past I have thought about contacting the mappers active in a particular area but it's a pain in the a*se to do something that should be trivial. The current OSM messaging system could really do with a bit more social thinking not just relying on users adding their

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-02-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, I am the mapper (user:devonshire) who imported the woods in your first example around Dartmouth but it was last May so not exactly recently. The woods that are there now are a lot better than the NPE traced ones that we had before. I took the view at the time that importing the

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-04 Thread Kevin Peat
I agree with you 100% on this. I think if OSM is street-level complete (preferably with postcodes as well) then it will be picked up by a lot more developers for their iPhone and Android apps and the amount of feedback we could get would be a 100 times greater than now. A standardised, OSM hosted,

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-04 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, I don't think we need a bot for this as the current tools seem quite adequate to me. If the missing streets are added this year then that would be great. Building a community is ideal but I think outside the successful parts of the country we are not going to get a lot of people wanting

Re: [Talk-GB] pay_scale_area

2011-02-02 Thread Kevin Peat
I don't think this data serves any useful purpose. The polygon for my area cut right across the middle of arbitrary areas so I deleted it a long time ago. I've never had any feedback on that so assume no-one was using it. Kevin On 2 February 2011 10:40, Bob Kerr

Re: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor)

2011-01-25 Thread Kevin Peat
+1 on this idea I have used josm since I started with osm but still end up clicking fairly randomly on these icons. A menu would be way better. Kevin On 24 Jan 2011 22:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/24 Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com: Anthony wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
Hello Chris, I was wondering why you don't see any value in just adding the postcode centroids to the map? There are probably 25000+ buildings in my area so it isn't feasible for me to add them all and their addresses in less than a lifetime whereas adding the postcode centroids would surely

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
So I should delete the various admin boundaries in the db then as they cannot be viewed on the ground? That's great for Nominatim but what if I want to find a postcode on my Garmin? Kevin On 21 January 2011 09:58, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Because postcode centroids are not real -

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
*From:* Kevin Peat [mailto:ke...@kevinpeat.com] *Sent:* 21 January 2011 09:52 *To:* Chris Hill *Cc:* Talk-GB *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids Hello Chris, I was wondering why you don't see any value in just adding the postcode centroids to the map? There are probably 25000

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