Re: [OSM-talk] Idea for improving mapping system

2020-10-18 Thread Maarten Deen
+1 I'm sorry if I sound a little paranoid, but somone with an email address of little.banana.peel and calling him TheAdventurer64 and asking people to read something for which they have to log in to with a google account does not give the feel for a solid foundation for a discussion.

[OSRM-talk] OSRM does not use date restrictions in conditional access?

2020-10-13 Thread Maarten Deen
Conditional access rules for time and date restrictions follow the same syntax as opening hours rules, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions#Condition I have way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/96440420 with highway=cycleway+access:conditional=no @ (2019 Okt

Re: [OSRM-talk] Colombia - Tunel de la linea

2020-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-10-02 08:01, Maarten Deen wrote: Hi Carlos, In the past days a new tunnel was opened in Colombia "El Tunel de la linea", which allows to go in one way and the mountain must be crossed from the other direction; This tunnel is located between the cities Calarcá and Cajamarca.

Re: [OSRM-talk] Colombia - Tunel de la linea

2020-10-02 Thread Maarten Deen
Hi Carlos, In the past days a new tunnel was opened in Colombia "El Tunel de la linea", which allows to go in one way and the mountain must be crossed from the other direction; This tunnel is located between the cities Calarcá and Cajamarca. OSRM does not allow routing through the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

2020-09-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-09-24 08:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I looked at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide and https://learnosm.org/en/josm/ but I am not fully happy about any of them (a bit too much at one for someone new) Why not iD: they

[OSRM-talk] OSRM on the openstreetmap homepage does not want to route through Duplex tunnel A86

2020-09-06 Thread Maarten Deen
See https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car=48.9046%2C2.1962%3B48.7810%2C2.1723#map=12/48.8430/2.1665 This routing is not taking the duplex A86 tunnel in Paris. When you switch to Graphhopper routing then it is taking the tunnel. I don't see any obvious errors in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cannot find address ringvegen 45 Sørkjosen in nominatim

2020-08-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-08-23 22:20, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Hi, On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 09:41:10PM +0200, Maarten Deen wrote: Node 3117603944 was established in 2014 with tags addr:city Sørkjosen addr:housenumber45 addr:postcode 9152 addr:street Ringvegen Yet, when I query nominatim

Re: [OSM-talk] Cannot find address ringvegen 45 Sørkjosen in nominatim

2020-08-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-08-23 22:20, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Fix the name of the street and everything sorts itself out. Thanks, I'll sort out the street name with the Norwegian community. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Cannot find address ringvegen 45 Sørkjosen in nominatim

2020-08-23 Thread Maarten Deen
Node 3117603944 was established in 2014 with tags addr:city Sørkjosen addr:housenumber45 addr:postcode 9152 addr:street Ringvegen Yet, when I query nominatim for Ringvegen 45 Sørkjosen I get no results. What is going wrong here? Sørkjosen itself is found [2] so the problem

Re: [OSM-talk] This needs to be voted upon.

2020-08-10 Thread Maarten Deen
I also don't want to imply that a vote is imminent, just that this is such a big issue, it can not be decided by mere consensus on a mailinglist. Not everyone follows these discussions (not that everyone reads the wiki though, but again, this is a major thing). Regards, Maarten On 2020-08-10

[OSM-talk] This needs to be voted upon. (was: Re: Separating all metadata from coordinates in OSM into a wikibase instance)

2020-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-08-10 03:32, stevea wrote: On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:29 AM, pangoSE wrote: The discussion below spawned the following idea of migrating the whole tags system instead. (an over engineered proposal largely, as Frederick says and I agree with, goosed by the "hype of linked data.") I politely

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] fake, edit, fake map.

2020-06-16 Thread Maarten Deen
Again, take it up with the mapper first. You talk as if the mapper makes mistakes on purpose and the only object is to create an incorrect map. I'm sure he's not and he just needs to be told not to rely on aerial imagery that much. But again: take it up with the mapper. You have still not

Re: [OSM-talk] fake, edit, FAKE map.

2020-06-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-06-16 18:09, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: Added a service road. Edited about hours ago by Version #1 · Changeset #86698283 https://imgur.com/gallery/k6Zjnqm If you think it is fake, you first comment on the changeset and ask the mapper to explain. Or look at his profile and see

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM nicknames are Unicode characters? (not Ascii?)

2020-05-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-05-28 15:02, mbranco2 wrote: Hallo, I was surprised finding an OSM username written in gothic characters: I'm not sure if this mailing list could show such font, the nickname is 햒햆햘햙햗햔 ("mastro" in normal characters). The problem is that, if you want to access this user profile, you've

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet torrents...

2020-03-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-03-10 08:07, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2020-03-07 09:36, Christian Quest wrote: This week was the first one I had nothing to do (or fix) :) Do you have scripts for this? (have to ask before I go make one myself) I made my own script, this is very basic and works for me in Ubuntu

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-03-12 03:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet torrents...

2020-03-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-03-07 09:36, Christian Quest wrote: This week was the first one I had nothing to do (or fix) :) Do you have scripts for this? (have to ask before I go make one myself) Do not hesitate to share your own findings if you have tested the planet torrents ! I've been seeding now for 2

Re: [OSM-talk] The benefits of cross-linking OSM and Wikidata

2020-03-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-03-05 15:39, Rory McCann wrote: On 05/03/2020 15:25, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote: couldn't we do a vote about that? Would it be possible for the OSMF to maintain and coordinate such a voting. Yes, we _could_. It would require a 2/3 majority of “active [OSM] contributors”, "and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-26 12:34, Florimond Berthoux wrote: The problem is not the OSM "default" (there is no default) map. OSM is *not* a map ! The problem is the data put in name tag of some objects, which are not respectful with the international idea of the project. I find it a stretch to say that

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-25 19:15, Tomek wrote: W dniu 20-02-25 o 18:43, Mateusz Konieczny via talk pisze: PS: given the choice, I'd probably rather learn Klingon than Esperanto, that might give me better chances to find someone I could talk to in that language after all I assume, esp. in the tech/geek

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-25 15:36, Tomek wrote: Since you don't want to put in the effort of putting the text in the translator, maybe it's best to unsubscribe from this list? I don't think so. The common language on this list is English, as the common language on talk-nl is Dutch and on talk-pl is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-23 23:38, Alan Mackie wrote: This conversation is petty, repetitive and tedious in the extreme, but as that seems to be the order of the day: I can not agree more with this message. I am not even trying to read the Polish and Esperanto mails. Yes, I am to lazy to put them in a

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-15 21:27, Richard wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:38:03AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > From wikipedia (if that is an authority) > it isn't. getting better and better: we have now a discussion on the la

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-13 12:59, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Midgard wrote: Hi, Someone created a mashup[1] between the logos of OpenStreetMap and Antifa, a collective of militant groups which are known to use violence. This graphic is distributed on stickers.[2]

Re: [OSM-talk] Testing torrents for the planet dump

2020-02-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-09 16:17, Christian Quest wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I've (re) started sharing planet dump files using Bittorrent to test an alternative way to distribute our planet dumps to reduce the bandwidth load on the OSMF servers. Here is a short summary after 2 weeks tests... The

Re: [OSM-talk] Teaching cyclists how to contribute to OSM

2020-01-20 Thread Maarten Deen
Oh, interesting to know. In which jurisdictions? And how can the cyclist adhere to this since the average cyclist does not have a speedometer? Maarten On Mon., Jan. 20, 2020, 4:46 a.m. Alessandro Sarretta, wrote: Hi, On 20/01/20 10:16, Maarten Deen wrote: Normal practice in Germany is to

Re: [OSM-talk] Teaching cyclists how to contribute to OSM

2020-01-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-01-20 03:15, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM john whelan wrote: Locally in Ottawa many paths are multiuse there is a path many kilometers long along the Ottawa river that has a line marked down the center and is very much used by cyclists but according to NCC who

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-01-07 20:53, Mario Frasca wrote: On 07/01/2020 14:38, Marc Gemis wrote: Since OSM is a do-ocracy, do not complain, but write the wiki page you want to see that's fine, and I've been doing that for Panama, and for Morocco, but I do not like mapping without having reached a consensus.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-01-07 08:27, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 6 Jan 2020, 16:35 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: sent from a phone On 6. Jan 2020, at 07:29, Maarten Deen wrote: Baltic Sea to be the "Baltic Sea" or for South America to be "South America" - this is an example of

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-01-05 23:25, Tomek wrote: EN (automatic translation) I plan to remove the "name" and "wikipedia" tags from places that are not associated with a specific nation or language: * continents * north and south poles * seas and bays, but exceptionally leaving the "name" tag for seas with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 16:58, Andy Townsend wrote: On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 I don't think this is the best

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 14:11, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote: Removing the name tag does not solve any problem. The renderer for the map (or any program that needs to display the name tag) needs to make a decision which tag to display. If the name tag is not present it will have to fall back to another

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 11:46, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote: Some context first. So there has been this changeset that triggered some discussions: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77845837 Changeset comments in not a great place for discussion, so I suggest that we continue here. (Thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 09:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote: Still, it is a Good Idea to have one standard (language) to communicate or define things, like everything meant for an international public in the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote: EN: In what language should the names of interstate objects be: seas / bays, continents, oceans, poles? They are not currently displayed on the default map(1), programs (e.g. OsmAnd, iD and JOSM editors) use the name:LANGUAGE label, so the content of the "name"

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM very old data

2019-11-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-29 10:43, Tom Ka wrote: https://kasparkovi.net/osm/ (top letf selection for older maps) No answer to your questions, but cool to see the map grow like that! Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Tesla using OSM without attribution?

2019-11-12 Thread Maarten Deen
I extend that irony to taking the car to the gym. But I guess as a Dutchman I have different ideas on how to transport myself than the Americans do. But suppose the apocalypse is upon us and the floor is lava, wouldn't it be nice if your car came to the rescue? "KITT, buddy, come over here".

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-05 Thread Maarten Deen
standpoint? Regards, Maarten Am 05.11.2019 um 10:40 schrieb Maarten Deen: On 2019-11-05 10:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 4 Nov 2019, 12:53 by md...@xs4all.nl: In any case, I see that the "You must be 13 years or older to use the Services." is still there. Really? Someone under 13 ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-05 10:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 4 Nov 2019, 12:53 by md...@xs4all.nl: In any case, I see that the "You must be 13 years or older to use the Services." is still there. Really? Someone under 13 can not look at the OSM map? I'm sorry, but that is completely laughable. And not

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-04 12:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 11:17, Simon Poole wrote: Am 04.11.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Maarten Deen: > the ToU says "You represent and warrant that the information you > provide to OSMF upon registration and, at all other times, will be >

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-04 12:17, Simon Poole wrote: Am 04.11.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Maarten Deen: On 2019-11-04 09:28, Simon Poole wrote: Am 03.11.2019 um 23:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: ... it depends from whom you hide, but generally you should not use a traceable email account if you want to remain

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-04 09:28, Simon Poole wrote: Am 03.11.2019 um 23:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: ... it depends from whom you hide, but generally you should not use a traceable email account if you want to remain anonymous. Using Google would seem like a total no-go (they are even reserving the

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-11-03 11:42, Philippe Latulippe wrote: Hello everyone! I like to improve OSM casually, making small fixes as I use the map in my day-to-day life. However, doing so without any precautions would reveal a great deal of information about where I've been, since my edits cover exactly the

Re: [OSM-talk] EuroVelo routes are out of date

2019-10-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-10-03 10:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: Is it an idea to create some kind of ticketing system for this? I think we already have this: - create notes on osm.org, including the word "eurovelo" - search for "eurovelo" on https://ent8r.github.io/

Re: [OSM-talk] EuroVelo routes are out of date

2019-10-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-10-03 10:27, Richard Fairhurst wrote: EuroVelo routes are not in a great state in OSM. Many of them appear to have been armchaired years ago when routes were "in development", and not updated since to reflect the correct route. A handful of examples: …and there are lots more. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

2019-09-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-09-12 06:30, Mark Wagner wrote: On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:54:17 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > On 11 Sep 2019, at 20:20, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 > Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > >> A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! >> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-07-18 10:18, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 17:57, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-18 09:44, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 16:58, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Is there any chance to connect the notes

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-07-18 09:44, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 16:58, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Is there any chance to connect the notes database with the user's profile? Notes that you create, either through

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Hi all, I recently uploaded some notes from osmand+ to openstreetmap, but did not see them first. I now learned how to activate the notes layer both for openstreetmap and its editor. But I

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Is there any chance to connect the notes database with the user's profile? Notes that you create, either through osm.org or OSMand can be found on your profile under My Notes. In OSMAnd?

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:58 AM Andrew Errington wrote: I think this is a rendering issue (i.e. rendering speech instead of graphics) and as such does not belong in OSM. The work to convert an arbitrary string into speech belongs in the TTS engine. If we start putting IPA strings in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Maarten Deen
IMHO the strategy for adding roads also should be on this list. The optionlist to add accessrights for "all, foot, motorvehicles, bicycle, horse" resulting in a foot=yes, motorvehicle=yes, bicycle=yes, horse=yes on all roads is creating redundant tagging. Maarten On 2019-05-29 06:29, Andrew

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-04-12 09:52, Simon Poole wrote: Am 12.04.2019 um 08:26 schrieb Maarten Deen: Does the determination in java follow the same rules (or even the same library) as file(1)? In its manpage it says file tests each argument in an attempt to classify it. There are three sets of tests

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-04-11 22:40, mmd wrote: Am 11.04.19 um 21:33 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 4/11/19 21:26, Roland Olbricht wrote: Could it have been that the file triggered an arcane bug in a gz library from the Java universe? Yes, that's exactly the problem - these files decompress fine with

Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-03-15 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is not properly providing information about shop type. It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* tags). how to find it? JOSM validator since

Re: [OSM-talk] Relation #2632934 is "killing" differential update

2019-02-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-02-11 12:14, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi, the relevant changesets are 65448087 (for version 99, created_by "upload.py v. 1") and 67093992 (for version 106, created_by "Vespucci 12.1.2.0"). I cite the user agents because the data looks like unintentionally changed that way. I have left a

Re: [OSM-talk] Strang (non-)rendering issue

2019-02-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-02-04 11:52, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: On 04.02.19 11:10, Maarten Deen wrote: The changes still don't show up. Also in another area [1] I've made changes (Kirchstraße is not pedestrian and added to memorials) that don't show up. Also someone on the dutch mailing list complained about

Re: [OSM-talk] Strang (non-)rendering issue

2019-02-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-01-30 17:45, Tom Hughes wrote: On 30/01/2019 16:22, Maarten Deen wrote: Are there different rendering servers for those regions? I know that there are different tileservers, but I didn't know the rendering was also different. Is that not really inefficient to have two servers render

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Changeset na een paar dagen nog niet zichtbaar

2019-02-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-02-01 14:54, Patrick Coenen wrote: Ieder, ik heb dit nog niet meegemaakt. Een snelle aanpassing van een nieuw aangelegd fietspad en bijbehorende afsluiting van aangrenzende straten, maar is door mij in ID gedaan en gecommit. Maar de wijzigingen zijn na een paar dagen nog steeds niet

[OSM-talk] Strang (non-)rendering issue

2019-01-30 Thread Maarten Deen
Yesterday I made some changes around the railway station in Drauffelt: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.01668/6.00843 I added some roads in the parking lot and a pick-nick site between the Clerve and the Irbich. This morning at work I checked how it looked and it was rendered. Now

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-01-11 23:15, Warin wrote: On 11/01/19 21:45, Markus wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: * -35.3409195, 149.1616891 Ways 77001149 and 77000891 should IMHO not be mapped like that but mapped with turn:lanes

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Maarten Deen
) is legal or not. On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 20:47, Markus wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: See below two cases where we would simplify the geometry: * -32.0914374, 116.0129206 Is seen no big problem in how

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: Since January we started to work on road geometry in Canberra, Perth and Melbourne and we came across some intersections where roads (turn lanes) are mapped separately even where there is no physical divider or chevron markings. See below two cases

Re: [OSM-talk] Help - how to get rid of wrong image in wiki?

2018-12-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-12-19 22:30, Richard wrote: the example image in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:oneway%3Dreversible is clearly wrong but aparently isn't mentioned referenced anywhere in the source of the page. Am I blind? Does it perhaps come from

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-12-11 11:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 11.12.2018 11:16, Andrew Hain wrote: A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support normal levels of Board transparency on this issue? Just as a "data point" in this discussion: There are people out there who are

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Caribbean Netherlands

2018-11-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-11-08 01:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: The groupings "ABC" and "SSS" seem to be rather informal; other options would be to group everything in one and call it... well... "Nederlandse Antillen" is not an official term any more, is it? Not anymore, not since 2010. It used to be one country

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] afmelden

2018-11-07 Thread Maarten Deen
Hoi Gideo, gebruik de link onderaan de mail (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl) en vul je mailadres in het onderste veld in en klik op "unsubscribe or edit options". Groeten, Maarten On 2018-11-07 09:58, Biegstraaten, Gideon wrote: Hoi, Zou ik me af kunnen melden voor de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server

2018-11-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-11-06 11:12, Frederik Ramm wrote: It sounds like a good idea to wait until the change is done - or actually, perhaps it would not hurt if I simply implement the future boundaries on the download server right now. Which of the provinces are due to change? Utrecht en Zuid-Holland and

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server

2018-11-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-11-06 10:46, Bas Couwenberg wrote: On 2018-11-06 10:35, Paul L. Smits wrote: Keep in mind that the provinces will change in 2 months due to the cross-provincial merging of three municipalities into the new municipality of Vijfheerenlanden. I already have the changes for the

Re: [OSM-talk] it seems josm.openstreetmap.de is down

2018-10-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-10-30 17:29, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: I cannot open the link https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ and I cannot launch the JOSM application on macOS. I do not know if these two issues are connected. I believe there is some maintenance going on. I think they planned a few hours of downtime.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile Application for optimizing OSM ski area data

2018-10-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-10-26 14:22, Valentina Böhm wrote: What would you recommend regarding authentication? Is it ok if users of my app are committing data on my behalf or should all users have their own OSM account? I would not let users edit on your account. Then you will get the comments and possibly

[OSM-talk] Zoom to search results on the map

2018-10-26 Thread Maarten Deen
When you search on something in the searchbox on openstreetmap.org that returns multiple results, the map moves to the first result and when you hover over the result it displays a marker. But for all the other results, you need to click to see where it is. This removes the search results and

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.16.0

2018-10-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-10-20 03:33, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 19.10.2018 o 07:39, Maarten Deen pisze: Does this mean that amenity=atm only gets rendered in zoom 19 and higher? If so, why? It is now rendered from 17 onward, shops get rendered from 18 onward. It seems to me that atms are at least as important

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.15.0

2018-10-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-10-19 05:43, Daniel Koć wrote: - Moving amenity=atm to z19+ Does this mean that amenity=atm only gets rendered in zoom 19 and higher? If so, why? It is now rendered from 17 onward, shops get rendered from 18 onward. It seems to me that atms are at least as important as shops.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nabble deletes posts

2018-10-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-10-11 11:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: someone replied in private: Hi Martin, might this help you?http://n8.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=53 but I am not sure how this is applying, and in particular, why these posts? All messages are to the tagging mailing list, it is just 7 in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] How to find the way with the most relation memberships

2018-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
And the ways that are in the bad relations are bogus too. A lot of relations only have way 482554372 and 496296681 in them, both ways with no tags but the name. My guess for the existance of these ways is they were split of from a way "Ankara Otobüs Hatları Çalışması", where left somewhere out

Re: [OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

2018-08-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-08-16 16:03, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 16.08.2018 13:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: This may be of interest: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/technology/google-maps-neighborhood-names.html Scary. Can we revert Google? Google does not seem to take much responsibility. When you look at the

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-08 Thread Maarten Deen
Then I still don't understand the problem. A closed way tagged with highway=* will by default route. A closed way with area:highway=* will not. You'll have to introduce logic in the router to do so. Regards, Maarten On 2018-08-08 14:49, john whelan wrote: I don’t get why highway=footway +

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-08-02 22:14, john whelan wrote: Lat and long work quite well. If you have a smartphone with GPS it understands lat long. It may not understand 8 letter addresses. Some combination of letters may offend. How would you space them out? It is What3words all over again, and some people

Re: [OSM-talk] anonymous notes spam?

2018-07-20 Thread Maarten Deen
I assume the anonymouse notes have been deleted, since the notes that are now visible are not anonymouse. Regards, Maarten On 2018-07-20 20:21, Johnparis wrote: When I click on the samples I get full notes. Perhaps there was a database hiccup? On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 18:29 Andrew Hain wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] API a lot slower?

2018-07-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-19 09:04, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi Maarten, Nothing special really, I was just downloading the data from a lot of relations sequentially in JOSM. I downloaded relation 1360154 with its members which are bus master_relations that then also load the bus relations but without their

Re: [OSM-talk] API a lot slower?

2018-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-18 15:50, Tom Hughes wrote: On 17/07/18 10:42, Maarten Deen wrote: Is it just me or just today or is the API a lot slower after the move on sunday? I'm downloading a number of busrelations and it takes a lot longer than before the weekend. I know the cause of this has been

[OSM-talk] API a lot slower?

2018-07-17 Thread Maarten Deen
Is it just me or just today or is the API a lot slower after the move on sunday? I'm downloading a number of busrelations and it takes a lot longer than before the weekend. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Database on readonly?

2018-07-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-15 12:38, Andy Townsend wrote: On 15/07/2018 11:29, Maarten Deen wrote: What is the problem? Is there maintenance going on? Nothing on the "announce" list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ , but it was mentioned at https://mobile.twitter.com/osm_tech (a

[OSM-talk] Database on readonly?

2018-07-15 Thread Maarten Deen
There is a message on the map at openstreetmap.org that the database is readonly because of maintenance and in JOSM I can't download anything. I've seen no announcement and the platform status at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Platform_Status gives everything OK. What is the problem? Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-09 11:55, James wrote: From what I understand TIGER data is very poor quality to begin with and is at a federal level, this study doesnt take into account local GIS data(say a city or a province/state data) which often is more accurate. It seems fixated on one data import instance vs

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-03 22:07, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 03.07.2018 10:28, Frederik Ramm wrote: Software should be able to deal with both. In my opinion, software should not _need_ to deal with both. Working around easily fixed database quality issues is a waste of time. Good softwaredesign dictates

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-03 11:23, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Lipiec 2018 10:36 od md...@xs4all.nl: What will prevent users from adding FIXME tags in the future? Nothing, users may add any tags. It is impossible to change that by edits. Then the proposed mechanical edit is useless. It will have to be

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-03 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Now that I know about existence of FIXME tag I can add support for it in my tools at 1% of cost of going through mechanical edit. The entire point is not to support may particular usecase, the point is to save people in future from spending time on

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-06-29 17:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue [1] discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their grave consequences derived from gambling addiction (there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?

2018-06-20 Thread Maarten Deen
What kind of copyright infringement are you talking about? Jeroen wants to know what city it is. How can this possibly be a copyright infringment and why should he not use the image? Maarten On 2018-06-20 15:00, Milo van der Linden wrote: Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Maarten Deen
struggling to think where I would find one. Phil (trigpoint) On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water locations with available offline map - I am

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-06-03 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid buying plastic bottles Osmand does that. Just start with typing "drinking" into the POI search.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote: Hi Daniel, I’ll look for your contributions on the project talk page. Thanks. Meanwhile, here are answers to your questions: 1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-24 19:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I fully agree that it is a problem. I encountered nasty issues after implementing name rendering fallback with following language order (order is simplified for this example): name:pl, name:en, name:de, name Intention was to render English name in

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-14 10:15, Michael Reichert wrote: The list of good and bad tags can be found on the wiki That is my whole point. No you can not. Some messages can be found verbatim, some can be found only if you connect the dots (that error_something_with_description means that the node has a

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-13 09:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. Apr 2018, at 08:54, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: Yes, that's it, but where is it written? ;) Josm validator warnings are often about problems that are not explicitly described and

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-13 05:02, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: OSM Inspector tags some individual address nodes as errors. For example, these nodes located inside the lateral boundaries of buildings: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=5438712543#map=19/39.68899/-104.86454 I guess I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

2018-03-16 Thread Maarten Deen
You probably have to check the logfiles. Not sure if you can do this from within the wiki. Maarten On 2018-03-16 12:38, john whelan wrote: But how would you check this? Thanks John On 16 March 2018 at 07:31, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote: That is a different matter. This is

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