Re: [talk-au] Namespace for maintenance tags

2020-09-18 Thread Warin
On 17/9/20 11:40 am, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 15/9/20 10:53 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: 1. psma:loc_pid. Where this is a stable ID that is used as a reference, the existing ref tag is better for this. If we want to be more specific then ref:psma or something like that would work. No need to

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?

2020-09-02 Thread Warin
On 30/8/20 3:40 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Having a problem with OSMAND that I think could be related back to the way data has been entered, or later defined, in OSM? Playing with OSMAND yesterday & searched for a local street but it came back "not found". Tried a number of others with

Re: [talk-au] SA, parks tagging for the render

2020-08-25 Thread Warin
ve the tree tagging from protected areas and have the tree area mapped at least roughly. On Tue, 25 Aug 2020, at 8:59 AM, Warin wrote: Hi I have come across a new mapper that has changed the tagging to change the shading.. i.e. tagging for the render. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/8

[talk-au] SA, parks tagging for the render

2020-08-25 Thread Warin
Hi I have come across a new mapper that has changed the tagging to change the shading.. i.e. tagging for the render. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89852186 However .. on  looking around ... It looks like many of the protected areas have, in the past been tagged this way!!!

Re: [OSM-talk] Proper use of route relations?

2020-08-01 Thread Warin
On 2/8/20 6:08 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Aug 2020, at 20:48, Yves via talk wrote: This would be better joined in a site relation. why should it? What’s the benefit? An indication that all these things are maintained by one organization? The question as to

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW images not loading

2020-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/7/20 8:13 pm, Sebastian Spiess wrote: Hello, is anyone else having issues with NSW LPI images not loading in JOSM? This also seems to be the case for iD. Yep. Either 'they' have changed something or 'they' have a problem. Give them 24 hours to see if it is a problem .. if not working

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-09 Thread Warin
On 9/7/20 9:12 am, Andrew Hughes wrote: Hi Again Everyone, Thanks for your replies, very helpful. I'm trying not to elaborate too much on what we hope to one day achieve... more appropriate for a meet-up than mailing list. I think I can conclude that aligning the two isn't a realistic

Re: [talk-au] Restricted postcodes due to Covid-19

2020-07-03 Thread Warin
On 4/7/20 9:24 am, Ewen Hill wrote: Good morning,    You may still travel through these zones to get to your destination. Trains, trams and buses stil ply the routes so extensibly nothing has altered. True for urban areas. I think these would change far too fast for usefulness in OSM.

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Warin
Graeme - I hope your only using google maps as an example here and not as your source for mapping. (I mention this here so others don't start using google to map into OSM) Andrew/Luke I too would question the legal implication of the sign. As a cyclist if traffic was 'light' (as in no

Re: [talk-au] How to tag plantations?

2020-06-18 Thread Warin
On 18/6/20 6:48 pm, Little Maps wrote: Many thanks Warin, that seems much more variable in Vic, esp in Gippsland where natural=wood is a common tag for areas tagged as State Forests. Plantations in SW Vic are quite a mix. I wonder if it’s worth adding a section to the Aus tagging guidelines

Re: [talk-au] How to tag plantations?

2020-06-18 Thread Warin
Within NSW landuse=forest is used for areas that produce things for human use e.g. timber. Usually there are operated by Forestry Corporation of NSW, there are some privately operated areas too. I should try to mark these with operator=Forestry Corporation of NSW or access=private for those

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Warin
On 16/6/20 7:43 am, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-06-15 23:14, barry b wrote: Hi Folks, I made the below changes to rockall. snip I don't know the exact procedure here. I feel i didn't do it right. Don't worry too much about "not doing it right", just about everybody here has "been there done

Re: [OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-12 Thread Warin
On 13/6/20 1:37 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:28 AM Florian Lohoff > wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 02:14:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > > > Jun 12, 2020, 13:59 by f...@zz.de : > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Warin
On 12/6/20 9:19 pm, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-06-12 13:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I wonder if it would be feasible or desirable for editors to warn users if they are at risk of creating country/world-spanning changesets. Something like "you have unsaved edits more than 500km away from

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit Attacks

2020-06-10 Thread Warin
The Changeset: 85357849 comment is "multipolygons for the entire river offer no tangible advantages and not to be used." Sorry but I don't think that is a great comment. Is there any advantage in what you did? If so, what did you do and what are the advantages? On 11/6/20 8:40 am,

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Thread Warin
On 9/6/20 12:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: YES !, i guess what i am saying i would like to see more drop down options. How many options would you like? Enough for many pages of options? Add seasonal, open_hours, description, etc etc? Personally I don't use drop down menus, prefer

Re: [OSM-talk] fake mapping

2020-06-08 Thread Warin
On 9/6/20 8:26 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: just to be safe i went to a pre-edit location, less than 5 miles 2 hours by public transportation. the satellite view was wrong, the river area were ponds because of the dam, which was not there in 1969 when we went down the river in cement

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-05 Thread Warin
On 5/6/20 10:45 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if water goes under a bridge, why in the ID  editor is it pictured on top of the bridge, when the river stream comes to the bridge can you split and add tunnel ? Is the 'layer=*' tagged correctly??? The item 'on top' should have a layer tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-26 Thread Warin
Jack Armstrong : Thanks. I'll try that. From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > Advise them to enter the historic railway into OHM ... or any historic object for that matter. This satisfies them that the object is mapped and frees OS

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-26 Thread Warin
On 25/5/20 2:37 pm, Jack Armstrong wrote: Greetings. Recently, a user mapped “razed” railways inside a construction zone (link below). These rails had been removed by our local mappers since they don’t exist anymore. Using the latest imagery (Maxar), you can see the rails have been

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge area construction

2020-05-05 Thread Warin
On 6/5/20 8:41 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 6. May 2020, at 00:08, Pierre Béland wrote: I dont think that it is appropriate to superpose a landuse over a waterway. this is a good point, but you could spare the waterway out and just tag the construction site on

Re: [Talk-GB] City centre landuse tagging

2020-05-01 Thread Warin
On 1/5/20 9:22 pm, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hi, Meant to include this in my other post, but...I'm noticing that several cities in the UK (Bristol, Bath and Chester are good examples) don't seem to tag the city centre area with an appropriate landuse tag (presumably retail, commercial or

[talk-au] Vicmap Lite - Public Land (Parks and Reserves) not working

2020-04-28 Thread Warin
Hi, The JOSM map imagery for Vicmap Lite - Public Land (Parks and Reserves) is generating errors and not loading. I have been trying to repair damage done by a new mapper to things sourced from this imagery. Unfortunately the reversion is not repairing the damage on selected ways.

Re: [Talk-GB] CWGC: worldwide, war graves

2020-04-26 Thread Warin
On 26/4/20 10:50 pm, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-04-26 14:26, Tony OSM wrote: If we generate a tag schema it clearly needs to be applicable to other grave organisations - e.g. German War Graves Commission - /Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge/ in German. So we need a more abstract

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: trace and signs

2020-04-25 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 8:35 pm, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: Here are some more examples demonstrating that signs could be of interest to travelers. - in this video the popular British travel video-blogger goes to great lengths to get to the specific sign to record his video:

Re: [talk-au] Local bicycle routes in NSW

2020-04-24 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 11:50 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 10:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: My opinion. Routes go from A to B. They are not simple road segments. An example? Relation: Northbridge-Castle C

Re: [talk-au] Local bicycle routes in NSW

2020-04-24 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 8:55 am, Tom Brennan wrote: Willoughby Council (Sydney, NSW) has recently been refreshing its cycle route signage, so I've been riding the routes and reviewing tagging in OSM. Before I go and make a whole lot of changes, I just wanted to confirm best practice. 1. Infrastructure:

Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs

2020-04-24 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 2:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point tags as a sign. What sort of 'sign'? Mapping a sign that says the road has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the road with the name. Mapping a sign that says

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: trace and signs

2020-04-23 Thread Warin
On 24/4/20 7:29 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: 1. how do you close out the trace on the map after edit ? I have no idea what this means. "Close out"? 1. how do you tag a sign, mall, park, forest, that is name of the place, place name. If a mall, park, forest have a name then

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-21 Thread Warin
On 21/4/20 7:57 pm, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 21/04/2020 09:53, Greg Lauer wrote: Hi Daniel, As both a (very amateur) military historian who has visited many of battlefields/CWG's through the Asia Pacific, Africa and Europe, as well as an Open Data proponent, I really like what you are trying

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal process for new tags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the public on not (access=yes means open to the general public), but

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
Some questions.. Who will use this information in OSM? In particular ISIL information appears to be, in Australia, for contact between libraries and they will already have systems in place for that so adding that information may not help anyone. The library collection (books/films/etc), use

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
On 20/4/20 9:10 am, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 20/04/2020 00:49, Andrew Davidson wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:52 AM Daniel Pocock mailto:dan...@pocock.pro>> wrote: The CWGC copyright notice appears to be compatible with a bulk import of their cemetery data. The copyright notice

Re: [talk-au] Sources for power line details, NSW

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
On 20/4/20 12:26 am, Sebastian S. wrote: Hi all, I've been wondering if there are usable sources to add voltage and other power line details to OSM. I see distinctly different power lines and poles around my area but so far I was not able to find details about them. On Ausgrid I can

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

2020-04-13 Thread Warin
I have bicycled on the M2. I much prefer it the the alternative that has a lot of up and down, dangerous cross streets where some drivers assume right of way over bicycles and a less direct route. There are people who commute to and from work on it, if there were a convenient safer route they

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Join roundabouts

2020-04-09 Thread Warin
On 9/4/20 8:13 pm, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au wrote: Update: Green are 2 different relations, so call it 1A and 1B - one (1A) is towards Brisbane and 1B is towards Sydney. We are focusing here on 1B. If you do not split the road, you will have whole roundabout I section TO/FROM. I

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Join roundabouts

2020-04-09 Thread Warin
On 9/4/20 5:40 pm, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au wrote: Hi everyone! Thank you all for responding to this thread. Thank you Harvey for suggestion to contact them directly, and we left comments on changesets. I am really sad when someone claims that we are trying to adapt OSM to our

Re: [talk-au] Murray River #2. Thanks heaps.

2020-04-09 Thread Warin
On 9/4/20 5:56 pm, Little Maps wrote: Hello again everyone, many thanks for your fast and informative feedback! It’s great to join such a welcoming group. There’s lots of great advice in everybody’s emails. If I distill it to one key point, I think it is... 1. Don’t touch admin boundaries or

Re: [talk-au] Murray River mapping by a newby?

2020-04-08 Thread Warin
On 8/4/20 7:31 pm, Little Maps wrote: Hello everyone, I’m Ian, I’m new to this group and pretty new to OSM. Being stuck inside for the foreseeable future, I’m keen to do something useful. I live on the Murray River and have noticed that many sections of the river along the NSW-Vic border

Re: [talk-au] Question about houses

2020-03-28 Thread Warin
On 29/3/20 9:13 am, David Wales wrote: Realised that I replied directly, rather than to the list... Reply below: Hi James, If there is only one building at the address, I would merge the building and the address point. You can mark the entrance as described here:

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

2020-03-26 Thread Warin
On 27/3/20 1:16 am, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 26 March 2020, Christine Karch wrote: the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of "accepted talks" first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments? Vandalism.

2020-03-21 Thread Warin
On 21/3/20 11:02 pm, ael wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:45:53AM +1100, Warin wrote: On 18/3/20 1:42 am, ael wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:25:24AM +, Devonshire wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, at 2:08 AM, Warin wrote: On 17/3/20 8:02 am, ael wrote: The inability to mark an object's

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments? Vandalism.

2020-03-20 Thread Warin
On 18/3/20 1:42 am, ael wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:25:24AM +, Devonshire wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, at 2:08 AM, Warin wrote: On 17/3/20 8:02 am, ael wrote: The inability to mark an object's location as "authorititive" has always seemed like a massive shortcoming of t

Re: [OSM-talk] We need your help to thwart this pandemic!

2020-03-20 Thread Warin
If the area is higher risk than an adjacent area then encouraging people to go from the high risk area to the low risk are will simply increase the risk for those who were in what was a lower risk area. For an individual this is great idea. For the community as a whole this is an extremely

Re: [talk-au] Postal addresses

2020-03-19 Thread Warin
that you should not add house name if you add house number, but I agree it's not generally useful in terms of delivering mail in Australia.  - Ben. On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 17:08, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi

Re: [talk-au] Postal addresses

2020-03-19 Thread Warin
On 20/3/20 9:13 am, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 20/03/2020 7:54 am, Andy Mabbett wrote: which does *not* imply that if there is a addr:housenumber there should be no addr:housename, but on the contrary indicates that the two properties can be used at the same time. That's also how I read it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-19 Thread Warin
On 19/3/20 4:52 pm, stevea wrote: Even the "let's not misunderstand" posts might even contain slight misunderstandings. As Roland mentions tiger:cfcc tags, there is an argument (and documented wiki) that suggests they might still yield some underlying structure of the TIGER rail import in the

[talk-au] Postal addresses

2020-03-19 Thread Warin
Hi 2 things on addresses. Firstly house names. While these exist they are seldom required for postal addresses so the should not be placed into addr:housename=* but rather into name=*. The wiki specifically implies if there is a addr:housenumber there should be no addr:housename. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-18 Thread Warin
On 18/3/20 10:17 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Unlike some of those who responded, I was not intending this status to be a "mark of shame", but rather informative. A 'mark of shame"? These are neither people or animals. While a contributor may feel some attachment, once it is in OSM it is OSMs

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-17 Thread Warin
be enough, right? Point is to determine where does the tag come from, and it's done by statuslink, not status which reflect the current state of use. All the best François Le mar. 17 mars 2020 à 10:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> a écrit : On

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments? Vandalism.

2020-03-17 Thread Warin
On 17/3/20 8:53 pm, John Aldridge wrote: On 17-Mar-20 02:08, Warin wrote: A single GPS trace is fine if that is all there is, better to average many GPS traces, in some locations I have 50+. Though, AIUI, once you've reached this level of precision, remaining errors are likely

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-17 Thread Warin
On 17/3/20 8:22 pm, Marc M. wrote: Hello Joseph, it may give the impression that this is the way it should be done. I agree to identify these "Noise" or poor quality tags, but with a keyword to show that it's a problem. e.g. status=bad, disputed, error, ... it would be necessary to find a word

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments? Vandalism.

2020-03-16 Thread Warin
On 17/3/20 8:02 am, ael wrote: I have only just got around to looking in more detail, and discovered that it is much worse than I had realised: vandalism. I have taken waypoints on nearly all of the individual stones, and then refined those positions with waypoint averaging on multiple visits.

Re: [talk-au] Burn area mapping

2020-03-10 Thread Warin
On 10/3/20 5:20 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 16:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Past fires have not been mapped, I see no reason to start doing it. Thoughts? Agree with you entirely. On a related not

[talk-au] Burn area mapping

2020-03-10 Thread Warin
Hi, Do we put into OSM the areas burnt from the recent fires? These are available from other sources (probably copyright so don't start to use these); https://www.emsina.org/australianbushfires

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-09 Thread Warin
Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery has it. If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have committed an error, and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-02-24 Thread Warin
It was I who raised the issue. Interest to see others thoughts, and some ideas on some sort of consistence, if that can be obtained? From an Australian perspective of 'our' showgrounds' in the countryside. Most of the year they are vacant. They do get some use from equestrian activities..

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

2020-02-23 Thread Warin
On 24/2/20 9:32 am, Ben Kelley wrote: Don't forget the blue and white signs! Practically I'd map a lcn=yes tag (or relation) for blue & white signs. +1 This is a handy indication for those not familiar with an area to indicate a 'best route'.  - Ben. On 24/2/20 02:59, Mateusz

[talk-au] Remote mapping of wetlands without local knowledge base on imagery

2020-02-23 Thread Warin
Hi, There has been some remote mapping of the Diamond Beach area based on imagery and descriptive texts. Note the descriptive texts are copyright. My contention is that without going there or a correctly licensed source these things cannot be mapped with any certainty, particularly without

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some existing detailed tutorial directed at complete newbies? Describing how to add various features?

2020-02-21 Thread Warin
On 22/2/20 3:37 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Is there some automatically generated website describing in excruciating detail how to map various features? Something directed to a potential mappers, explicitly describing every single smallest step, for every single mappable feature. I

Re: [OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

2020-02-18 Thread Warin
There are those who; think the proposal process it the only way to create wiki pages. there are those who degenerate wiki pages with few uses, to the extent of editing those wiki pages to discourage use. 'Any tags you like' is one mantra ... but documenting them in the wiki and leaving them

Re: [talk-au] Show grounds

2020-02-18 Thread Warin
Arr found a past question and answer (by me) https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=54804 And more https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Good_practice#Don.27t_map_temporary_events_and_temporary_features Note my comment. On 19/2/20 3:04 pm, Warin wrote: On 19/2/20 2:51 pm, Andrew

Re: [talk-au] Show grounds

2020-02-18 Thread Warin
ountry showgrounds. Ones in more constant use for example with trade halls might be landuse=commercial. I have found a few with the older tag 'leisure=recreation_ground' that is clearly now 'landuse=recreation_ground'. On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 11:14, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mai

[talk-au] Show grounds

2020-02-18 Thread Warin
Hi, A remote mapper has tagged a showground as landuse=commercial with amenity=exhibition_center I don't think 'we' tag most with either of those tags in Australia as they don't fit the typical use. Most are tagged landuse=recreation_ground recreation_ground=showground I think

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-17 Thread Warin
On 18/2/20 5:42 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: I used landuse=industrial industrial=warehouse for something similar. Though I admit that I am now not sure whatever "warehouse" fits well for pile of coal, even one that has specialized equipment supporting it. Warehouse implies a

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/2/20 5:25 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Warin - you reckon not map them? If they are permanent then they should be mapped. Can be usefull navigational points on a map. Sebastian - as Michael said, both temp & permanent but /much/ bigger

Re: [OSM-talk] Forests are mappable - was: Re: OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-12 Thread Warin
The problem? Large areas of blank map that, when viewed zoomed out, look to be tree covered areas. Result: Initial mappers tag the large areas as tree covered, ignoring details such as lakes, tree cuttings etc. Some time later details of lakes, tree cuts are added. this may be some years

[talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence

2020-02-12 Thread Warin
Hi, A remote mapper is adding a fence line to OSM. I believe the imagery detail is not sufficient to map this fence alone. See relation 10703889 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10703889). I think the remote mapper is using the website https://www.ddmrb.org.au/ to establish where

Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] Bushfire mapathon - kudos

2020-02-10 Thread Warin
On 10/2/20 5:55 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 14:56, John Bryant > wrote: Great work you guys. Made me feel proud to be part of such a great community. Yep, thanks everybody! I was wondering how everyone went? I went in

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Warin
On 6/2/20 3:21 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:14, Andrew Harvey > wrote: Fair point, I didn't find it since it's not documented https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/damage#wiki. The two tags can coexist so I don't see a

[talk-au] Australian guidelines for mapping landuse-landcover?

2020-02-04 Thread Warin
Hi, There is a page on the wiki for mapping landuse in Australia.. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_Landuse_in_Australia It is rather dated, carries little information and appears to have no real Australian content. And it does not link to the Australian pages. The

Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

2020-02-03 Thread Warin
On 4/2/20 8:23 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yep, choked_table sounds good. From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a /driveway link/ in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving in Australia, I've only ever known them as chicanes! Who calls a chicane a

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-02-02 Thread Warin
detail. Note: Some places have both a 'Fire and Rescue' and 'Rural Fire' stations, these may be in separate locations but within the same town. On 2/2/20 5:32 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 26/1/20 12:29 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:> However, there were "only" 718 listed. E

Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

2020-01-30 Thread Warin
and then activate. Thanks. Not up to date for the C130 crash site, yet to look elsewhere. I'll hope to be adding trees in this area... from bing or LPI Imagery. On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 08:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 30/1/20 5:56 pm, Andrew

Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

2020-01-30 Thread Warin
On 30/1/20 5:56 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 17:11, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: The LPI Imagery has the best resolution. Maxstar was more up to date but there was a problem with overuse of it so it has be

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-01-29 Thread Warin
On 30/1/20 4:59 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: We just received the CC BY waiver from TfNSW. That includes their GTFS feed (transport routes and stops), cycle network data, boat rames (those seem more directly useful to OSM). Wowhoo ... So much to map... have not even finished the LPI data ...

Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

2020-01-29 Thread Warin
On 30/1/20 4:45 pm, Bob Cameron wrote: This is just a being inquisitive question. Today I marked paved (was unpaved) route from Laggan to Taralga NSW after I drove it. I note that the underlying map (LPI?) actually showed the sections paved. The LPI Base Map does not show road surfaces, it

Re: [talk-au] tagging burnt areas

2020-01-27 Thread Warin
On 27/1/20 11:13 pm, Ewen Hill wrote: I would only be replacing any known houses and outbuildings with buildling=ruins. There are a number of old bridges that fall probably under this category along railtrails etc. I don't think much of the tag building=ruins. A church in ruins is still

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-26 Thread Warin
On 27/1/20 5:38 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 06:33, Sebastian S. > wrote: Hi Graeme, I however was able to add two fire stations that where missing, the base map is your friend here. Adding 220 stations via searching the

[talk-au] tagging burnt areas

2020-01-26 Thread Warin
Hi, A German mapper in Carbargo has used landuse=brownfield to map burnt areas. One such area is a recreation ground... so it would be burnt grass. Is it a good idea to map such things? It could be said this is 'temporary' so not something OSM should map. If so, how should it be tagged?

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-18 Thread Warin
to judge I'd be conservative and go for ruined. Already have hard to determine ruined or destroyed, so I think damaged is far easier to determine. On 18 January 2020 9:34:58 am AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/1/20 10:08 pm, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 17 Jan 2020,

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-17 Thread Warin
On 17/1/20 10:08 pm, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 11:42 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: I'm all for using the lifecycle prefix, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix. I agreed that if there's still remains there use ruined or destroyed, not sure what the

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-17 Thread Warin
On 17/1/20 9:42 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 19:53, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have tagged some buildings that have been fire damaged to a large degree. I have used building=razed however I think this is w

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-17 Thread Warin
I have tagged some buildings that have been fire damaged to a large degree. I have used building=razed however I think this is wrong. I think the lifecycle prefix should be used. The choices are; ruins:* or destroyed:* Thoughts? I note there is the possibility of partial damage. A new tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-16 Thread Warin
IF there is a road with embankments on either side then Volker is correct, just add embankment=yes to the way of the road. In this case the direction of the way does not matter. Read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embankment On 17/1/20 9:44 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: OK !

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16/1/20 9:24 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: maybe i asked it wrong, there is no way per say, it is a land fill and there is something on the top, but to the tracers looking at bing it looks flat but it is a big mountain, on the one hand or a big hole in the case of an reintion dry pond

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16/1/20 3:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: What does this mean ? “should be tagged on a way drawn with the*_/lower side on right side/_*of way direction” https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dembankment Like cliffs, embankments have a low side and a high side. An

Re: [talk-au] JOSM problem

2020-01-12 Thread Warin
For others that stumble on this .. Use the 'latest' version ... the 'tested' version has the bug... On 11/1/20 6:58 pm, Sebastian S. wrote: I noticed the slow upper menus too. If there a bug already existing that I can add to? On 11 January 2020 5:07:25 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.

Re: [talk-au] Way has been simplified...

2020-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12/1/20 12:37 pm, Sebastian S. wrote: When using OSMAnd for routing I came across the following note: "way has been simplified using a error criteria of 3m" it is usually in green text. Does anyone know what this means, why do we need the note? What purpose does it serve? This is usually

Re: [talk-au] JOSM problem

2020-01-10 Thread Warin
/editor-layer-index/pull/759 so depending if you have swapped out your imagery source in JOSM to use ELI directly or not you may need to wait for that to get updated on the JOSM side. On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 14:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wro

[talk-au] JOSM problem

2020-01-10 Thread Warin
Hi, I'm having a problem with JOSM ... In trying to track it down I found the following message "Failed to locate image 'https://www.spatial.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0010/210520/favicon.ico'" This is part of the imagery services from NSW LPI. They have probably shifted the location

[talk-au] A nice website for a bush fire over view

2020-01-09 Thread Warin
Bush fire site for Vic/NSW with OSM attribution.. but data from other sources too... https://bushfire.io Pity our federal government cannot do the same for all of Australia, could help stop those trolls. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-08 Thread Warin
gt; whole point was to be neutral on the exact name format and not engage > in a mass edit to reformat them to be the same, but instead respect > names will look different based on signage. > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mai

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-08 Thread Warin
I have used the LPI Base Map for both name and operator, see Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699) [operator fire & rescue] and Way: Narooma Rural Fire Service (761122698) I do not bother with the 'branch' as that is usually the leading value in the name and probably the same as the areas

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-08 Thread Warin
The LPI Base Map distinguishes between the 2 .. And I see no problem in using that source. Examples Way: Narooma Rural Fire Service (761122698) [operator Rural Fire Service] and Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699)  [operator Fire and Rescue] There are quite close together. An advantage of

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-06 Thread Warin
On 06/01/20 18:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: & NSW is done! :-) Couldn't help thinking though, as I fixed some phone numbers, of just how many of these places - Bilpin, Bells Line of Road, Narooma & so on - are we now going to have to go back in & mark as destroyed? :-( I have done a few in

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Warin
... On 05/01/20 23:28, Sebastian Spiess wrote: I took the liberty to add it to the wiki page. The building=fire_station is references on EN and DE translation of the amenity page thus I guess there should be no issue. On 5/1/20 9:15 pm, Warin wrote: There are some 944 of them in the data base

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Warin
Created the wiki page for building=fire_station ... it is a small page but there. On 05/01/20 21:42, David Wales wrote: Thanks all, Changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79209273 On 5/1/20 9:15 pm, Warin wrote: There are some 944 of them in the data base .. so they should

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Warin
There are some 944 of them in the data base .. so they should be documented. I'd be pleased to add a few more, along with the suggested tags. On 05/01/20 21:02, Andrew Harvey wrote: Okay with me though it would be good if that tag was documented at

Re: [talk-au] Jervis Bay Territory admin boundary

2020-01-03 Thread Warin
On 04/01/20 10:57, cleary wrote: The Jervis Bay Territory/NSW boundary is shown such that Jervis Bay Territory overlaps into parts of Shoalhaven Council area and NSW suburbs. Obviously not correct. There seems to be no source provided for the location of the boundary, although much of it

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