Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

[maning sambale]

Hi y'all,

Putting on record that I was part of those who requested FB to
generate road detection for the Philippines there are a few more
people involved.
I defer to these individuals if they want to put forward their names.

While I agree that a few people does not necessarily represent the
whole local community,
I believe those we talked to initially were the most active both in
mapping and community-building in the Philippines.

As mentioned in the announcement, organized mapping effort will only
be initiated if there are local groups (local in the geographic region
they want to map) willing to manage and coordinate.
However, individual mappers who want to use existing detections
provided by FB can directly map their own mapping patches via RapiD.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:13 PM Peter Barth  wrote:
>
> Hi Eugene,
>
> Eugene Alvin Villar schrieb:
> > Unfortunately, I cannot provide you with a link since we communicated with
> > Facebook's OSM team privately. This is completely our own initiative and
> > was not initiated from Facebook's side.
>
> who is this "we"/"our", how many people were directly involved in this
> communication?
>
> I am a bit worried about your definition of "local community". If this
> initiative was driven by the local community, as you say, why is it only
> recently announced on the talk-ph mailing list?
>
> Also, for everyone, especially the local community to follow up, you
> could just put the direct messages to the wiki for documentation.
>
> Thanks,
> Peda
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[OSM-talk] anonymous notes spam?

[maning sambale]

I'm getting several single letter notes comments since yesterday.
Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/562375
Are people noticing the same?

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Re: [OSM-talk] History of an deleted object

[maning sambale]

Or press "U" in Potlatch 1 *
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback#Potlatch_1

* Which I call the greatest potlatch hack ever

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:53 AM, James  wrote:
> http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/
>
> Can find change sets and object ids in a certain place, maybe that is the
> simplest waywithout going into full history database parsing
>
> On Jul 11, 2017 10:19 PM, "Mark Bradley" 
> wrote:
>>
>> If I run across an object in the Bing aerial photography that I suspect
>> was mapped at one time in OSM, but does not exist now in OSM (probably
>> because someone deleted it), how can I verify that it used to exist in the
>> map?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Call for scholarship applications to attend State of the Map Asia 2017

[maning sambale]

Call for scholarships for SotM-Asia 2017 is now open.
http://stateofthemap.asia/scholarships.html

-- Forwarded message --
From: kshitiz khanal 
Date: Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:05 PM
Subject: Call for scholarship applications to attend State of the Map Asia
2017
To: Nama Budhathoki , Pradip Khatiwada <
youthpra...@gmail.com>


Dear OSM community member,
​​
​We want to welcome you to State of the Map Asia 2017, which will be
organized in Kathmandu, Nepal on September 23 - 24, hosted by Kathmandu
Living Labs and OSM community of Nepal.

The event website is now live at: http://stateofthemap.asia/

A call for scholarships is now open. Please use this link

to apply.

Call to apply for scholarships to attend State of the Map Asia is now open.
Please fill this form to apply for receiving support to attend SotM Asia
2017. We can not guarantee that we can provide scholarships for all
applicants, but we are trying to gather resources for as many as possible.
The deadline for application is June 10, 2017.

We need your support to make this a successful event and help foster the
growth of OSM in Asia and beyond.

Please refer to the website for further details.

With best regards,

Kshitiz Khanal
Researcher, Open Data and OpenStreetMap
Kathmandu Living Labs​



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[OSM-talk] Invitation to participate in State of the Map Asia 2017 in Kathmandu

[maning sambale]

Forwarding invitation from the SotM-Asia Organizing team, see you in Nepal!

Dear OSM community members,

We want to welcome you to State of the Map Asia 2017, which will be
organized in Kathmandu, Nepal on September 23 - 24, hosted by Kathmandu
Living Labs and OSM community of Nepal.

The event website is now live at: http://stateofthemap.asia/

A call for session proposals is now open. We will be opening calls for
travel scholarships and event registration soon. You are invited to propose
creative and informative sessions (presentations, workshop etc.) including
your country's state of the map.

We need your support to make this a successful event and help foster the
growth of OSM in Asia and beyond.

Please refer to the website for further details.

With best regards,

Kshitiz Khanal
Researcher, Open Data and OpenStreetMap
Kathmandu Living Labs


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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [HOT] Call for Logos for State of the Map Asia 2017

[maning sambale]

FYI, State of the Map Asia 2017 will happen in Kathmandu Sept-Oct 2017
(dates TBD).  Please help us design the logo.

-- Forwarded message --
From: kshitiz khanal 
Date: Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:23 AM
Subject: [HOT] Call for Logos for State of the Map Asia 2017
To: h...@openstreetmap.org, sotm-a...@openstreetmap.org,
talk...@openstreetmap.org


Dear all,

The State of the Map Asia 2017 working group is pleased to announce a
call for logo designs. We need your help to build a strong
recognisable logo for State of the Map Asia 2017 (SotM Asia)
conference taking place in Kathmandu, Nepal. The conference is
OpenStreetMap’s annual gathering of the community, interested parties
and others in Asia.

We have put together a Design Brief which outlines what we were
looking for in a logo. Entrants could be an individual or team of
people, or even a design company.

All entries will be considered to give copyright ownership to SotM so
that it can be used across different mediums. Entries have to appear
on the wiki page State Of The Map Asia 2017/Logo entries by 23:59 UTC
(before midnight) on 15th of April 2017. The SotM Asia 2017 working
group will decide by vote the logo to go with.

The winning entry will be rewarded with one full weekend ticket to
State of the Map Asia 2017!

For guidelines and other details, please refer to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Call_for_logo_sotm_asia_2017


Regards,


Kshitiz Khanal

Researcher

Kathmandu Living Labs




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[OSM-talk] Scholarship applications for SOTM-Asia 2016, Manila Philippines

[maning sambale]

Hi,

We are happy to announce that the scholarship applications for
SOTM-Asia 2016 is now open!  Details here:

http://stateofthemap.asia/scholarship.html

We are looking for 4 community mappers and excited to hear their
stories during the conference.  See you in Manila in October!



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[OSM-talk] Join State of the Map Asia October 1-2, 2016 in Manila, Philippines

[maning sambale]

Dear everyone,

We are happy to announce that the 2nd State of the Map Asia will
happen in Manila, Philippines on October 1-2, 2016. Two days in the
Philippines with talks, discussions, and workshops all around the free
and open map of the world.

This is a free event (no registration fee), if you plan to join, head
over to the website to register.

http://stateofthemap.asia/

In the coming weeks, we will announce the call for proposals,
scholarship applications and other details. We are also looking for
sponsors to cover for food and other expenses needed to make this
awesome. If you are interested, please contact:
osmpilipinas+sotmasia2...@gmail.com

We hope the OSM community in Asia and all over the world can join.


Maning Sambale
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[OSM-talk] well mapped area for area navigation

[maning sambale]

Hi,

I'm looking for an area to test navigation in light with the new OSRM
v5 release [0]. Can anyone recommend an area which you think is
"navigation complete" in OSM?

Of course, "navigation complete means" different for different people,
here I define navigation for car.  So I'm looking for an area that has
"complete" map for:

- roads and names
- oneways
- traffic signals
- turn restrictions (including conditional turn restrictions)
- turn lanes (including bike lanes)
- speed limits
- exit signs and destinations for motorways

Advance thanks!

[0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2016-April/001184.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction or revertion?

[maning sambale]

Thanks Martin and Frederik for the clarification.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03/23/2016 08:19 AM, maning sambale wrote:
>> I'm aware that redaction is only for DWG dedicated accounts.  What's
>> the best practice/criteria for redaction?
>
> Edits that are *reverted* will stop showing on everything that is based
> on the current version of our data (map, search, routing, editors etc)
> and they will also not be findable with search engines.
>
> But they can still be retrieved through (a) requesting the object
> history from the API, (b) downloading a (current) full history planet
> file, (c) downloading an older planet snapshot or planet history file,
> (d) requesting the history from downstream services that store it (I
> believe Overpass is such a service).
>
> Edits that are *redacted* (note: only non-current versions of an object
> can be redacted) will be suppressed by the API and hence vanish from the
> methods (a) and (b) mentioned above; they will still be accessible by
> the methods (c) and (d) because we don't retroactively change old planet
> files that might have contained a problematic edit.
>
> We will usually consider redaction if someone has uploaded content that
> should remain secret (eg the location of a shelter for victims of
> domestic abuse), is grossly offensive, or constitutes a large and
> obvious violation of someone else's copyright.
>
> On minor copyright violations (user uploads 10 houses with
> source=Google, we tell him that's not allowed, he says sorry and deletes
> the houses again) we usually don't bother with a redaction, although if
> the copyright holder were to complain we would have to execute one. (If
> a copyright holder were to really really complain we'd even have to
> remove old planet files and old history planets that contain the
> problematic data from our servers but this hasn't happened yet.[*])
>
> Redactions are more of a last resort and not a routine tool; they make
> working with the data more difficult hence we try to avoid them when not
> necessary.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
> [*] There was one incident long, long ago where several old planet files
> were re-written to leave out a large amount of data for a Baltic country
> that had been illegaly imported.
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[OSM-talk] Redaction or revertion?

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Just want to be clear whenever I report something that I think is harmful edit.
When should I propose revertion or redaction?

I'm aware that redaction is only for DWG dedicated accounts.  What's
the best practice/criteria for redaction?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting a potential vandal (bryanpiczon)

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Some updates on this case.  The OSM-PH community and others have
reverted many of the changes made by this user (details is tracked in
this ticket [0] ). For older edits we cannot do a full revert since
many were probably touched by other users already, so we are doing
manual reviews. In addition to the listed user accounts, we noticed a
new user account of similar behavior [1].  We added them in the list
and we have reverted most this user's edits already.

We feel this person won't stop unless we revert edits right away.

[0] https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/8
[1] ttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/asalasangkay/history#map=7/9.070/125.035

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Thank you confirming bad edits in other areas.  We will raise this to DWG now.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Toby Murray  wrote:
>> Most of the changesets I've looked at so far have been highly
>> suspicious and there is definitely a lot of damage to the map still
>> out there from this user. A few examples:
>>
>> He tagged a random industrial building as the "South Shore Plaza" mall:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29661237
>>
>> South Shore Plaza is a well known upscale mall and already mapped here:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/44123566
>>
>> He tagged a building near the Lincoln Monument as a Burger King:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/66418664
>>
>> Added a place=city node for Boston in the wrong location (and this
>> place=city node already exists in the correct place)
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4000134306
>>
>> Have you contacted the Data Working Group? They can at least issue a
>> ban that he must look at before being able to edit any more and
>> potentially revert all of the changes at once. I am adding them to
>> this email.
>>
>> Toby
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:38 AM, maning sambale
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The OSM-PH community have been monitoring who we suspect as a vandal
>>> using several accounts.  While in the past he mostly edit in the PH,
>>> we feel that the larger community should monitor since he has edited
>>> in other parts of the world.  Most recently, the National Mall in
>>> Washington, DC.
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37139218#map=15/38.8883/-77.0313
>>>
>>> We strongly believe that this person is a vandal, but would like to
>>> confirm the scale and impact to other parts of the world.
>>>
>>> See summary of our notes here:
>>> https://gist.github.com/maning/d76192c4a2cf5ba34c4c
>>>
>>> Raw document and some sample cases here:
>>> https://hackpad.com/Bryan-Picson-Z5Px9SzYNQC
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting a potential vandal (bryanpiczon)

[maning sambale]

Thank you confirming bad edits in other areas.  We will raise this to DWG now.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Toby Murray  wrote:
> Most of the changesets I've looked at so far have been highly
> suspicious and there is definitely a lot of damage to the map still
> out there from this user. A few examples:
>
> He tagged a random industrial building as the "South Shore Plaza" mall:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29661237
>
> South Shore Plaza is a well known upscale mall and already mapped here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/44123566
>
> He tagged a building near the Lincoln Monument as a Burger King:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/66418664
>
> Added a place=city node for Boston in the wrong location (and this
> place=city node already exists in the correct place)
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4000134306
>
> Have you contacted the Data Working Group? They can at least issue a
> ban that he must look at before being able to edit any more and
> potentially revert all of the changes at once. I am adding them to
> this email.
>
> Toby
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:38 AM, maning sambale
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The OSM-PH community have been monitoring who we suspect as a vandal
>> using several accounts.  While in the past he mostly edit in the PH,
>> we feel that the larger community should monitor since he has edited
>> in other parts of the world.  Most recently, the National Mall in
>> Washington, DC.
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37139218#map=15/38.8883/-77.0313
>>
>> We strongly believe that this person is a vandal, but would like to
>> confirm the scale and impact to other parts of the world.
>>
>> See summary of our notes here:
>> https://gist.github.com/maning/d76192c4a2cf5ba34c4c
>>
>> Raw document and some sample cases here:
>> https://hackpad.com/Bryan-Picson-Z5Px9SzYNQC
>>
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[OSM-talk] Reporting a potential vandal (bryanpiczon)

[maning sambale]

Hi,

The OSM-PH community have been monitoring who we suspect as a vandal
using several accounts.  While in the past he mostly edit in the PH,
we feel that the larger community should monitor since he has edited
in other parts of the world.  Most recently, the National Mall in
Washington, DC.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37139218#map=15/38.8883/-77.0313

We strongly believe that this person is a vandal, but would like to
confirm the scale and impact to other parts of the world.

See summary of our notes here:
https://gist.github.com/maning/d76192c4a2cf5ba34c4c

Raw document and some sample cases here:
https://hackpad.com/Bryan-Picson-Z5Px9SzYNQC

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Re: [OSM-talk] If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens...

[maning sambale]

In the Ph, by default, schools are used as evacuation centers (which is bad
since it disrupts school days during prolonged crisis but thats a separate
discussion). For these, we tag them as amenity=school and
evacuation_center=yes.

cheers,

Maning Sambale (mobile)
On Dec 30, 2015 9:47 PM, "Maarten Deen"  wrote:

> On 2015-12-30 16:33, Dongpo Deng wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There is a problem for tagging shelters. In Taiwan, some of schools
>> are selected to be shelters for villages or small regions when a
>> disaster happens. However, it is conflict to annotate two amenities on
>> a geometry object. That is, we cannot simultaneously use amenity =
>> school and amenity = social_facility; social_facility = shelter for a
>> school with shelter functionality.
>>
>> Some Taiwanese mappers proposed to add 'emergency' as prefix for
>> distinguishing shelter, e.g.,
>> emergency : amenity =  amenity
>> emergency : social_facility = shelter
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4790949
>>
>> I'm just wondering if it is a good manner for this case. Because the
>> tag 'emergency' is used for emergency facilities but not including
>> shelters. Thus, adding emergency prefix to amenity is suitable? Any
>> suggestions for such situation?
>>
>
> How about shelter=emergency?
> I don't really see why social_facility would be applicable. I don't see
> why an emergency shelter would be connected to social services.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps (beta)

[maning sambale]

The {y} coordinates seems different from OSM's, see:
https://maps.wikimedia.org/#17/14.59445/-239.02144
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.59310/120.97863


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Hans De Kryger
 wrote:
> Thanks for the share!
>
> On Sep 14, 2015 6:25 AM, "Daniel Koć"  wrote:
>>
>> Wikimedia is working with their own maps based on OSM data (currently
>> still beta):
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps
>>
>> This style is quite simple (even less data than MapQuest Open) and I've
>> heard it's based on OSM Bright. Interesting features:
>>
>> Starting with this tile:
>>
>> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/340.png
>>
>> you can see JSON-formatted vector data for visible elements (unfortunately
>> it means there's not too much of them):
>>
>> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/340.json
>>
>> and also some higher-DPI versions:
>>
>> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/3...@1.3x.png
>> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/3...@2x.png
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[OSM-talk] Flooded Luzon, Philippines

[maning sambale]

Monsoon season has started and we just had 2 tropical cyclones the
past week, but I don't think it should flood the whole island of
Luzon. :)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/14.5931/120.9804

I think I've fixed the problem where there was a disconnected
coastline [0].  It was edited by a previous user about a month ago.
Interestingly, this problem appeared only today.  Hope rendering gets
fixed.

Thanks!

[0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32539573
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing satellite tiles

[maning sambale]

Not yet according to a Bing exec:
https://mobile.twitter.com/rbrundritt/status/616028862531530752

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Jason Remillard
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given the recent large changes to Microsoft's bing mapping group, is osm at
> risk for losing access to the bing (uber?) satellite tiles? It is a pretty
> important resource to osm.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

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> There is no remote mapper that I know of that believes they can produce a
better map than a local can ... Sharing the remote burden all over the
world instead of a small local populace, probably with limited internet
connectivity, hardware and leisure time - to me that can only be a good
thing.

Agree. I dont think it should be a hardline stance of local vs remote.
There should be balance. For example, remotely mapping roads is useful for
us since it provides an initial framework for newbies to add POIs.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

[maning sambale]

Sometimes I wonder whether remote/armchair mapping has similar effects as
imports to the growth of the local community.

I think we have recognized that imports has a place in osm provided it
follows community principles and guidelines. Maybe its time to discuss
similar principles and guidelines to remote/armchair mapping?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass query from a date range

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Thanks Pierre!

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
> Hi Maning
>
> This script should provide all nodes, ways, relations edited since a certain
> date (newer). In this exemple, objects edited since 2015-05-20.
>
> [out:xml];
> (
>   relation(newer:"2015-05-20T00:00:00Z") ({{bbox}});
>   way(newer:"2015-05-20T00:00:00Z")({{bbox}});
>   node(newer:"2015-05-20T00:00:00Z")({{bbox}});
> );
> out body;
>
>
>
>
> Pierre
>
> 
> De : maning sambale 
> À : osm-talk 
> Envoyé le : Jeudi 21 mai 2015 22h04
> Objet : [OSM-talk] Overpass query from a date range
>
> Hi,
>
> At the end of a mapping party, I want to show the group the data
> added.  How do I query in overpass the data that was added/modified
> given a date/time and bbox?
>
> Tnx!
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[OSM-talk] Overpass query from a date range

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Hi,

At the end of a mapping party, I want to show the group the data
added.  How do I query in overpass the data that was added/modified
given a date/time and bbox?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage dropped dramatically in Taiwan

[maning sambale]

Same case reported in the Philippines.

cheers,

Maning Sambale (mobile)
On Apr 11, 2015 12:20 AM, "Hsiao-Ting Yu [:littlebtc]" 
wrote:

> For mappers in Taiwan, currently the Bing imagery is the only way to draw
> details in Taiwan, since only Bing has good zoom 18+ coverage in Taiwan.
>
> However since the imagery updated this week the coverage dramatically
> dropped. Though some region had been updated,  a lot of areas, like Taipei,
> Miaoli, and Kaohsiung, all zoom 14+ images were disappeared. It is
> frustrating.
>
> This issue had been lasted for several days, and we had reported the
> imagery lost in the Bing maps report form. Is there any other ways we can
> report and get this fixed?
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Re: [OSM-talk] what happens to an OSM account if the user dies

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Thanks for all your condolences.  She was actually one of our OSM
contributor working in a catholic parish.
We trained them to use OSM tools for the parish' disaster risk
reduction ministry.
As Mike N said, there is no risk of losing her important contributions
when we did the license change.


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Bryce Nesbitt  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 4:26 AM, maning sambale 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sad news that my friend and OSM contributor died from a vehicular
>> accident.
>> I'm curious, what happens to an OSM user account if this happens?
>
>
> Likely the account just sits with no activity.
> There's some risk it could be "hacked" one day, but ultimately there are
> many many inactive accounts.



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[OSM-talk] what happens to an OSM account if the user dies

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Sad news that my friend and OSM contributor died from a vehicular accident.
I'm curious, what happens to an OSM user account if this happens?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM by municipalities

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Dear Sev,

I was involved the last two years on assisting 3 municipalities in
using OSM as a platform for basemapping in a disaster risk reduction
(DRR) project.  Anecdotal reports from local contacts were saying
these maps were actually used in the preparation and eventual response
to a big typhoon that hit the area last year.  One municipality is now
using it beyond DRR and integrating OSM data into the landuse
planning/zoning process of the town.  A video should be available soon
on this initiative.

On 2/12/15, Robert Banick  wrote:
> I know that some municipalities in the Philippines are using OSM data as a
> foundational dataset. You should check with Jay-Ar (osm: jay-ar) for more
> info, he was telling me about it.
>
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Severin Menard 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Is there somewhere a collection of use cases of OpenStreetMap data and
>> services by municipalities?
>> Sincerely,
>> Severin


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[OSM-talk] Search results for disputed territories (Nominatim)

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Hi,

We were informed by our national mapping agency of this concern.  For
a brief of background,
the Philippines have several disputed islands with China one example
is Scarborough Shoal [0].

The Nominatim result assigns it only to Sansha City, Hainan, People's
Republic of China [1]

To avoid further edit wars, we tagged the boundary as disputed territory [0]

I believe the data is correct having properly tagged in an admin_level
relation for both countries.

Zambales, Philippines: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1504691
Sansha City, China: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2833102

I propose that Nominatim either display all the results or none at all
(saying it is a disputed territory) to avoid confusion.

Furthermore, we already informed our mapping agency of OSMF's
statement regarding this matter [3].

This post is to inform the wider OSM community  an seek advice on how
we should best represent and show results for disputed territories.
We already posted an issue to Nominatim on this matter [4].

Also, this is an appeal to connect to both PH and CN mappers not
continue reverting each others edits.  We are part of an international
community and we should not be escalating this border issue any
further into OSM.

Thanks!

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal
[1] 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Scarborough%20Shoal#map=11/15.1585/117.7653
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26925523
[3] 
http://www.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf
[4] https://github.com/twain47/Nominatim/issues/202
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Re: [OSM-talk] "Fix waterway direction" for the world

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Thanks Peter.

> As this problem is fixed now, I'm slowly starting to add new tasks.
> If you tell me your region of interest I'll privilege your area ;)
Its the Philippines.


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Re: [OSM-talk] "Fix waterway direction" for the world

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I chose an area (big circle) where I want to edit but the waterway
challeneg is not available in my area.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Peter Barth  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just to let you know: I finally extended the waterway-challenge to the
> planet. So you can now fix your favorite area world wide ;)
>
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[OSM-talk] osmstats/altogetherlost alternative?

[maning sambale]

I love the osmtats from the alltogetherlost site [0].
Unfortunately, they plan to close down the service [1]

What are the alternatives to a similar service?

[0] 
http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries&country=Philippines
[1] https://twitter.com/altogetherlost/status/480791367460061184
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[OSM-talk] overpass query to get last used editor

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Hi,

We are trying to find ways to query data showing the last editor used
using overpass query.
>From the docs, meta information includes only the following: "version,
changeset id, timestamp and the user data of the user that last
touched the object."

Is it possible to also get the editor used by the last user?
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[OSM-talk] overpass api tips and tricks

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Looking for hidden Overpass resources (other than the ones I saw below).
IMO, overpass is one of the good ways to introduce OSM data to developers.

Advance thanks for sharing your tips and tricks!

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Language_Guide

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Re: [OSM-talk] "local chapter" DWG

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> Is there something that you've complained about that the DWG hasn't acted 
> upon,
because I haven't seen any mail from you to the DWG.

There was one years ago, (see this email to the d...@openstreetmap.org
[0] which was also cc'ed to talk and talk-ph),
we didn't get a reply from the DWG.  Although for this case, local
mappers decided to revert the contributions.
As I said this was years ago, the process maybe faster now.

> I would wager a bet that if you can't do it informally,
you are going to have a large problem trying to put a working formal
organisation in place.

I disagree, I'm proud of our local community we are small but very
much involved with local
mapping and community building efforts.

What I am proposing is for us to handle local situations.  In most
cases, we where able to resolve things internally/locally.
As Richard posted in the talk-us list, "assume good faith" is always
our mantra.  Before taking any action (i.e. revertions),
we do conduct investigations and discussions with other active
mappers.  But there are rare ocassions where additional restrictions
(i.e temporary ban) need to be enforced to prevent further damage. For
international disputes, I think the main DWG should handle this.

> I suggest that you consider volunteering for the DWG, and have one or
more of your trusted local mappers do the same.

Would the DWG consider one member from the PH community to be a DWG
member and will the main person to look into
PH related reports?

[0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-February/048358.html

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> As Richard pointed out in his post, there is already an "in place"
> practice of handling issues locally and only a small number of things
> get escalated to the level of the DWG.
>
> Naturally how good this works depends on the strength of the local
> community, but I would wager a bet that if you can't do it informally,
> you are going to have a large problem trying to put a working formal
> organisation in place.
>
> What would help is more support, for the cases that percolate up to the
> DWG, to overcome language and cultural boundaries.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Ervin Malicdem:
>> Assigning local DWGs gets the job done faster in a local level as they
>> can easily find out if the edits are vandalized due to first-hand
>> knowledge of the data; and immediate lock out of the account can help
>> control additional  vandalized edits. And this can be performed faster
>> as the local DWG is on the same time zone.
>>
>> And having a global DWG as an escalation point  would make a "final"
>> decision in case there is a need for it. If there is a need for
>> arbitration, this setup would be beneficial and would foster transparency.
>>
>> Though most of the time, these vandals would never insist for their
>> edits as most of the time they are just trolling around and escalation
>> would most likely never happen.
>>
>> Local DWGs, IMHO are beneficial for faster response.
>>
>> Ervin M.
>> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
>> motherland.
>> http://www.s1expeditions.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Richard Weait > <mailto:rich...@weait.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM, maning sambale
>> mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Dear everyone,
>> >
>> > This is a thorny issue bit will ask anyway. ;)
>> >
>> > Not very often, but we do encounter questionable contributions.
>> > Normally, local mappers would contact the specific contributor  to
>> > explain and provide guidance.  But in some cases, these messages were
>> > ignored and the contributor continues to do questionable edits.
>> >
>> > There is a DWG [0] to resolve such issue.  We do understand that DWG
>> > members are volunteers like most of us and local issues might not get
>> > attention immediately.  I would like to discuss the possibility for
>> > our local chapter/community to form our own sort of DWG where we can
>> > address local concerns/disputes.
>> >
>> > We have a few active and trusted volunteers who can discuss and
>> > resolve such issues.  But in rare occasions we think we should have
>> > the rights to do "temporary blocks" within our local areas.
>>
>> Dear Maning,
>>
>> I wrote a post on talk-us@ that addressed some of the issues you
>> mention.  It was posted 

[OSM-talk] "local chapter" DWG

[maning sambale]

Dear everyone,

This is a thorny issue bit will ask anyway. ;)

Not very often, but we do encounter questionable contributions.
Normally, local mappers would contact the specific contributor  to
explain and provide guidance.  But in some cases, these messages were
ignored and the contributor continues to do questionable edits.

There is a DWG [0] to resolve such issue.  We do understand that DWG
members are volunteers like most of us and local issues might not get
attention immediately.  I would like to discuss the possibility for
our local chapter/community to form our own sort of DWG where we can
address local concerns/disputes.

We have a few active and trusted volunteers who can discuss and
resolve such issues.  But in rare occasions we think we should have
the rights to do "temporary blocks" within our local areas.

[0] wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group
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Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Alex Barth  wrote:
> Effective immediately the Mapbox Satellite option in iD and JOSM is 100%
> open for tracing in OpenStreetMap, including all our high resolution
Cool! Thanks DG.

> This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in
> the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17.
May I ask why?



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Re: [OSM-talk] small extract of OSM data for September 2013

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Thanks for all the tips and the expression to help (both here and
offlist).  Frederik's extract is good enough.
Thanks again!

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 08.04.2014 12:15, maning sambale wrote:
>> Yes, I was afraid this will be suggested. :) But, I currently don't
>> have the resources to manage the planet file.
>
> 1. get an account on errol, our dev server (or get hold of someone who
> has an account)
> 2. get the .poly file from download.geofabrik.de
> 3. load the old planet file onto your account on the dev server
> 4. run osmosis to cut out the area of interest
>
> that way, you avoid transferring the planet file to your own computer.
>
> I have already done the above steps for you with an August 2013 planet
> file, and the result is
>
> http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/philippines-130828.osm.pbf
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] small extract of OSM data for September 2013

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> you should be able to get this from planet.osm.org (whole planet though, so 
> you'd have to cut your area of interest).
Yes, I was afraid this will be suggested. :) But, I currently don't
have the resources to manage the planet file.

> You should see with Paul Norman who made the Before layer for the Haiyan 
> Compare map.
> http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after-philippines.html#9/11.1663/124.8727
I do have before and after mapnik rendered screen grabs.  But this
time I want to be able to do simple count like how many roads, pois,
buildings etc. was added. And btw, I'm not into this particular area
(Typhoon Haiyan).  But thanks for this link.


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[OSM-talk] small extract of OSM data for September 2013

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Was wondering if people here have a snapshot of data prior to
September 2013.  I just want to get some metrics of a before after
mapping for a small area.  pbf or shapefile for the Philippines is
fine.
I've checked geofabrik but the downloads goes only as far as Nov 2013.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam via OSM messaging?

[maning sambale]

I also received a message from the same username.

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Paul Johnson  wrote:
> Anybody else get a spam via OSM's message system from this user so far or am
> I the only one?  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Sheila%20Fomba
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Re: [OSM-talk] Appeal for a JOSM fieldpapers plugin to replace walkingpapers

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And now Ian Dees created a FP plugin for JOSM [0]!
Yesterday there was an issue with downloading the plugin within JOSM's
Preferences pane,
you may need to manually download and copy to .josm/plugins directory.

[0] https://github.com/iandees/josm-fieldpapers
[1] https://github.com/iandees/josm-fieldpapers/issues/1


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:09 AM, colliar  wrote:

> On 27.05.2013 11:23, RB wrote:
> > Le 27 mai 2013 12:22, "maning sambale" a écrit :
> >>
> >> Dear osm-talk,
> >>
> >> Posting this appeal to the general talk list. Hoping someone can
> >> catch this. ;)
> >> Back story: We use walkingpapers a lot for community mapping, it would
> >> be nice for a plugin that uses fieldpapers.
> >>
> >> Filed ticket: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8738
> >> Modify the walkingpapers plugin to use fieldpapers instead
> >> Description
> >> Walkingpapers is currently unmaintained for over a year now.
> >> Requesting a modification or a new plugin that uses fieldpapers
> >> instead.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
> > I support very much this idea. It would be very useful.
>
>
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[OSM-talk] Appeal for a JOSM fieldpapers plugin to replace walkingpapers

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Dear osm-talk,

Posting this appeal to the general talk list. Hoping someone can catch this. ;)
Back story: We use walkingpapers a lot for community mapping, it would
be nice for a plugin that uses fieldpapers.

Filed ticket: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8738
Modify the walkingpapers plugin to use fieldpapers instead
Description
Walkingpapers is currently unmaintained for over a year now.
Requesting a modification or a new plugin that uses fieldpapers
instead.

Thanks!

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[OSM-talk] Difference between redaction and revert

[maning sambale]

Dear everyone,

I noticed a series of redactions [0, 1, 2] by "pnorman redaction
revert" within our area.  I don't intend to discuss the merits of the
redaction here since upon looking at the 3 changesets, it seems to me
that the removal of data is valid (based on the changeset comment
"Redaction of Google as a source").

In some cases, I also do reverts around my patch if I know that the
source is tainted.  My question is, in what case should we ourselves
revert or ask the DWG for redaction? AFAIK, redaction "hides" the
version history of the redacted changeset/feature [3] as against a
regular revert which still includes the complete history.  However,
reverts (using JOSM) is much easier (and faster) since it doesn't need
moderator privileges and regular users can do it.

[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14679315
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14679302
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14679298
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/142690659/history

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Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

[maning sambale]

At least in my country, address is tied to lot parcels and not to
individual buildings.

And since we dont have parcel data, we add housenumber as nodes.

Maning Sambale (mobile)
On Sep 27, 2012 9:32 PM, "Simon Poole"  wrote:

>
> Am 27.09.2012 15:03, schrieb THEVENON Julien:
>
>  *>>>> De :* Simon Poole  
> >
> *>>>> *Supposedly the cadastre includes street names and house numbers,
> however
> *>>>> *of the 27 million buildings (plus 6 million wall=no) only a
> minuscule
> *>>>> *number have further information attached, matter of fact there are
> more
> *>>>> *nodes with addresses tagged in France than there are building
> outlines
> *>>>> *with house numbers. Why this is the case, I don't know, but house
> *>>>> *numbers etc. would be of far more immediate benefit to our data
> than
> *>>>> *just building outlines.
>
>  Some people put the house number on a node located where there is the
> building entrace ( and sometimes forgot to tag the entrance)
> Sometimes there are several house number on big buildings so house number
> is place on nodes instead of buildings.
> Some people prefer to place the number where it is located physically,
> near the street when an house has a long alley
> A lot of buildings outside cities does not have house number appearing in
> cadastre.
> This kind of reason can explain what you are observing
>
>
> Just so there is no misunderstanding: even taking address tagged nodes in
> to account, the addresses / houses ratio is lower and at best not different
> than in other countries without countrywide access to  cadastre-like
> sources. 3% with nodes, 0.6% without, comparision CH: 18% / 12%. The
> numbers are from the respective taginfo instances.
>
> So the question remains why the information in not being added to the
> outlines.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

[maning sambale]

For reference:

Shinjuku in iOS6 Maps -
http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/post/31930288525/shinjuku-station-the-busiest-train-station-in-the
in OSM - 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.689408&lon=139.700825&zoom=18&layers=M

I don't think Apple's Maps is using OSM.

In addition, they also didn't use OSM in the Philippines.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Pēteris Krišjānis  wrote:
> Sounds like nice smear from competition, except it can be truth and
> wrong in same time - it's very old data, first, it's not all OSM.
>
> Nice try tough.
>
>
> Peter.
>
> P , 2012-09-24 23:32 -0600, Martijn van Exel rakstīja:
>> From 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y&_r=0moc.semityn.www
>>
>> "The biggest problem with Apple’s map, Mapion’s Mr. Yamagishi said, is
>> that much of its data appears to be drawn from OpenStreetMap Japan, a
>> Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of incorrect and outdated
>> information."
>>
>> 1) Is Apple using OSM data for Japan?
>> 2) If they are, I can't believe this is a correct statement.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] http://live.openstreetmap.fr/ down?

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Thanks! Gregory.  ITO's 2008 Year of Edits is always part of our OSM
evangelization slides.  Now, it's finally replaced by the 4UP vid.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Gregory  wrote:
>
>
> On 14 September 2012 13:07, maning sambale 
> wrote:
>>
>> No edits are shown in http://live.openstreetmap.fr/
>>
>> Maybe reloading the new planet dump?
>> I have a talk tomorrow about OSM and would love to show this.
>>
>> --
>
> I'm not seeing any. It's likely it's changing to the new planet dump/diffs.
>
> Might be okay tomorrow so you'll just have to see if it works then (or 5mins
> before), and be prepared/expectant that it won't.
> If you need an alternative time-filler, ITO World created some updated
> versions of their amazing 'year of edits'. http://vimeo.com/itoworld
>
> Good luck with your talk!
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[OSM-talk] http://live.openstreetmap.fr/ down?

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No edits are shown in http://live.openstreetmap.fr/

Maybe reloading the new planet dump?
I have a talk tomorrow about OSM and would love to show this.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap GPS Points Map

[maning sambale]

Of course you can with the upload trace plugin

Maning Sambale
On Sep 10, 2012 9:57 PM, "Martijn van Exel"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Ilya Zverev  wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > As you know, almost half a year ago a GPX Planet was released
> > (http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/01/bulk-gps-point-data/). At the
> time
> > I expressed a hope that someone would process that file, making tile
> layer
> > and regional extracts. Alas, in those months the file has only been
> > statistically analyzed (thanks to Pascal Neis and Steven Kay), but no
> > practical use for that array of data has been found. Well, as they say,
> OSM
> > is do-ocracy: if you want something, the only way to get it is to do it
> > yourself. So, after several weeks of coding and impatiently waiting for
> > processing to finish, I present to you:
> >
> > 1) A tile layer of GPS points for the whole world down to zoom 11:
> > http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/gps/
>
> Cool to see this on a map, and indeed useful for remapping. Also, it
> reminds me to upload more GPS tracks. I almost never do that anymore.
> Maybe if I could do it straight from JOSM
>
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[OSM-talk] Funny usability "issue"

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Just sharing something that happened during one of my osm session with
newbies.
Using P2, asked one user to zoom in closer. He/she then tried clicking the
big OSM logo in the upperleft corner of the website. ;)
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Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

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1. Right-click > Flush tile cache doesn't work
2. Manual removing
"/var/folders/Zp/ZpOE5tJJEy0E3dZIW-0jkU+++TM/-Tmp-/JMapViewerTiles_maning"
doesn't work either.

Finally, I deleted my ".josm" directory and now it works on the mac.
Perhaps it's having trouble with old plugins?

Anyway, all is good now. :)  Thanks!

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Mike N  wrote:
> And a big thanks to the Bing Team for getting this imagery update out.  It's
> a huge help in keeping maps current!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

[maning sambale]

Moving along, I can view the updated imagery using JOSM in Ubuntu.

For the mac, I found this,
/var/folders/Zp/ZpOE5tJJEy0E3dZIW-0jkU+++TM/-Tmp-/JMapViewerTiles_username

Which I then cleared, opening JOSM again in Mac, I still get the old
hires imagery and not the new ones.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:40 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> I use mac and linux, I can't find the "JMapViewerTiles_username" in my
> mac system.  Using the latest JOSM ver 5278.
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>>> From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM
>>> To: jaa...@helleranta.com
>>> Cc: osm-talk
>>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
>>>
>>> I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old
>>> hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates.
>>
>> Check your JMapViewerTiles cache. On windows this is in 
>> %TEMP%\JMapViewerTiles_username\
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

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I use mac and linux, I can't find the "JMapViewerTiles_username" in my
mac system.  Using the latest JOSM ver 5278.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>> From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM
>> To: jaa...@helleranta.com
>> Cc: osm-talk
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
>>
>> I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old
>> hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates.
>
> Check your JMapViewerTiles cache. On windows this is in 
> %TEMP%\JMapViewerTiles_username\
>



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Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

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I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old
hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates.

You can see the outline of the old imagery here:
http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#10.685173,122.583121,17

Click the bing baselayer to see the updated imagery.  In josm, only
the old imagery is visible.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com
 wrote:
> Make sure you are viewing the highest zoom levels (z18-19) when trying to 
> look for the highres imagery.
>
> This trick showed some additional hires imagery for some areas in Haiti last 
> year. It was in JOSM, though and the bug may have been solved (haven't 
> checked actually). .. So, may not help you but good to try.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jaakko
>
> --Original Message--
> From: maning sambale
> To: osm-talk
> Subject: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
> Sent: Jun 12, 2012 20:39
>
> As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing.  Potlatch2 can
> load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the
> same area.
>
> This area for reference:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18
>
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[OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

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As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing.  Potlatch2 can
load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the
same area.

This area for reference:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage relations, in particular 1298962

[maning sambale]

We used to do this for outlining hires imagery (as closed ways not
relations), but decided to remove them following the "on the ground"
principle.  Instead, we moved the data to a separate webmap [0].
Further coordination, listing and other imagery updates are added in
the wiki as well [1].

[0] http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/imagery_coverage/
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:
> If I saw one of these locally I would verify that it corresponds to nothing
> on the ground and then delete it.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:28 PM
>> To: Open Street Map mailing list
>> Subject: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage relations, in particular 1298962
>>
>> I noticed this while looking at the map here:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.001059&lon=34.825519&zoom=18&layers
>> =M
>>
>> The  "Hires coverage of Bing imagery in the Near East" label is from the
>> name on this relation:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1298962
>>
>> Regardless of the "perhaps the map shouldn't render unknown things just
>> because of name=blah" issue, I'd argue that metadata such as this really
>> doesn't belong in OSM.  I've messaged the three previous editors of this
>> relation and two haven't objected to it's removal (the other one hasn't
>> replied).  Can anyone put forward a good reason why it should be kept?
>>
>> There are, of course, a number of other relations on this page:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
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[OSM-legal-talk] user agreed via osm messaging but did not update his/her user terms

[maning sambale]

I sent a message to a "dormant" regarding the license change.  He/she
agreed to the license change based on the reply below.  Unfortunately
he/she did not update the http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms .
I reminded the person to update it, but got no reply so far.   Any
advice on further actions?

message below:
Hi maning,

Decoder777 has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the
subject RE: retaining your edits in the Philippines with the upcoming
license change:
==

No problem maning, just keep it, i agree, i apologize for my late reply as
i am too busy at the moment

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Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

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I confirm that Apple is using OSM in the Philippines.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> Spod wrote:
>> http://512pixels.net/iphoto-for-ios-not-using-google-maps/
>
> http://www.refnum.com/tmp/apple.html (thanks Dair!) will show you the tiles
> they're using.
>
> Seems to be TIGER in the States but OSM in lots of other places...
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain

[maning sambale]

Following up on this old thread.

USGS EarthExplorer now provides L1GST version of Orbview3.  This file
is now rectified (EPSG:32651 in my case).  I assume the steps provided
by gis-lab.info is not necessary.  However, I'm seeing an offset of
around ~30 meters in the data I downloaded.  Are this the same on
other areas using Level 1GST product?

Are there other ways to georectify this?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Stephan Knauss  wrote:
> Ilya Zverev writes:
>>
>> I've translated a page from the Russian GIS community wiki:
>> http://wiki.gis-lab.info/w/Orbview3_Orthorectification
>
>
> great. Thanks for sharing.
> What would be the best way to share these files? Convert them into metatiles
> and let a system already serving tiles using mod_tile also serve these?
> Or have a specialized software like geoserver running?
> Stephan
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Re: [OSM-talk] CLEANMAP global version

[maning sambale]

Thank you for this useful resource.  One minor comment, using a lot
webmaps with openlayers, I'm used to using Shift-Mouse Drag to zooming
in to specific area.  This can accidentally query large areas.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
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> some non-ODBL object creation statistics for the selected region



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Re: [OSM-talk] Philippines OSM domain expired: openstreetmap.org.ph

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We are working on it.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Michal Migurski  wrote:
> …and it's not in the wayback machine because the robots.txt file doesn't 
> allow it.
>
> I'd renew it myself but can't figure out how to get to Enthropia, Inc.:
>        
> http://dotph.domains.ph/renew_service?auto=yes&doms=openstreetmap.org.ph
>
> Anyone?
>
> -mike.
>
> 
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[OSM-talk] Osm to distribute south africa geodata

[maning sambale]

Sharing this news:
http://afrispatial.co.za/open-data/osm-to-become-a-distributor-of-ngis-south-african-topo-data/

" South Africa, NGI [1] is in the process of signing an agreement
with OSM [2]. It is a modified version of NGI’s standard ‘Map Data Services
Provider’ agreement whereby third parties can distribute NGI data. What
this means is that OSM will incorporate all the most recent South African
topographical vector data from NGI. NGI data have been free and open for
several years but this will make them accessible as never before."
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[OSM-talk] measure building height with a droid phone

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Has anyone tried this?
http://androidboy1.blogspot.com/2010/10/smart-measure-ver-10-manual.html

Cool tool for 3d mapping. :)
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic Map Plotting in OpenStreetMap

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> better to have no data than to have wrong data.
Incomplete data is not necessarily wrong data.  That's why we have
tags for that (i.e. highway=road)

AFAIK, we only have a few rules here:
1. Don't copy from other (possibly copyrighted) maps.
2. Respect the work of others.
3. Have fun!

So please don't add more rules that overcomplicate things.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic Map Plotting in OpenStreetMap

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-1 on the blanket ban on remote mapping.

In our patch in OSM, we have very few mappers.  Sometimes, we do some
initial road stubbing and then organize a trip to verify what was
initially traced.  During those trips we try as much as we can to talk
to locals on how they can improve what was started.

At the very least, remote mappers should talk to the local osm
community if he/she intends to do armchair/remote mapping.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:44 PM, kenneth gonsalves
 wrote:
> remote mapping by people who have not seen the ground is a big nuisance and 
> should be discouraged.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

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Dear Norbert,

The videos are very useful for those of us who were not in the conf.
However, it  gets painfully slow to enjoy. Is there a plan to host
them in another site (i e. vimeo or youtube) or as a download?

Thanks again for making the videos available.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Norbert Wenzel
 wrote:
> On 18.07.2011 14:18, Michael Kugelmann wrote:
>>
>> For all who could not join: conference proceedings and/or slides and/or
>> recodings from allmost all talks are already available on the SOTM-EU
>> website http://www.sotm-eu.org .
>
> All videos should now be online. If there's still a video missing we do not
> have the right to publish it or we have technical problems with the video
> (Steves Keynote seems not to work. Andreas Trawöger is still working on this
> together with the TU Teaching Support Center.)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] shapefile to OSM poly for osmosis planet cutting

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osmpoly_export
Yep, that's it.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> Thanks Maning,
>
> I found it here [1] - is that the one you mean?
>
> [1] http://gis-lab.info/programs/qgis/qgis-repo.xml
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, maning sambale
>  wrote:
>>
>> If you use QGIS, a way to create a .poly file for osmosis is through QGIS'
>> OSM_POLY Export plugin.  Simply load the shapefile and run
>> the plugin.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>> > I have a shapefile containing a fair number of polygons that I want to
>> > feed
>> > into osmosis for cutting up an OSM data file.
>> > osmosis takes .poly files for this purpose.
>> > Is there a way to either convert a polygon shapefile to OSM poly format
>> > or
>> > to achieve this some other way? Right now I'm thinking of importing the
>> > entire (US) planet into PostGIS and cut it in the database.
>> > This is for analysis purposes, not visualization.
>> > Thanks!
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Re: [OSM-talk] shapefile to OSM poly for osmosis planet cutting

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If you use QGIS, a way to create a .poly file for osmosis is through QGIS'
OSM_POLY Export plugin.  Simply load the shapefile and run
the plugin.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
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> into osmosis for cutting up an OSM data file.
> osmosis takes .poly files for this purpose.
> Is there a way to either convert a polygon shapefile to OSM poly format or
> to achieve this some other way? Right now I'm thinking of importing the
> entire (US) planet into PostGIS and cut it in the database.
> This is for analysis purposes, not visualization.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Featured mapping, parks

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Rizal Park
http://osm.org/go/4zhFe8ACu-

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Nathan Edgars II  wrote:
>
> Josh Doe wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone considered creating "Featured mapping of the week", similar to
>> Best of OSM [1]?
>>
>> [1]: http://bestofosm.org/
>>
> "Landuse data from the US Geological Survey for the whole state of Georgia
> has been imported." Hah! It's low resolution, off in many places (most
> obvious next to an Interstate), and has flaws such as forested swamp not
> being tagged. And it makes trunks really hard to see (yeah, this is a
> rendering issue).
>
>
> Anyway, here's a small community park that I mapped:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.40826&lon=-81.48834&zoom=17&layers=M
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mail sending rate?

[maning sambale]

A good side-effect of this mass mails, is that I noticed some mappers
who haven't been editing over the last year.  Have become active
again.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Michael Collinson  wrote:
> Hi Brice,
>
> The first wave went out in batches over two days to about 14,000
> contributors who have edited during the 12 months.
>
> The second wave going out now is to about 90,000 contributors who have made
> at least one edit but have not contributed over the last year. It started
> Friday UK time. We expect immediate response rate to be lower so it is going
> out faster. It is projected to finish Monday evening.  Once that is
> complete, every one who has ever made an edit but not accepted or declined
> the new terms should have been sent an email to their registered email
> address. A few questions and comments are coming in and we are trying to
> follow them all up individually.
>
> Anyone curious can see the first text at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODBL/2011_May_Letter_Translations
>
> May I also squeeze in a public thanks to Tom Hughes who kindly made the
> process happen.
>
> Mike
>
> On 04/06/2011 21:11, eMerzh wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> i've seen that the foundation has started to send mail about the license
>> change.
>>
>> the graph make by Toby Murray here
>> http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/license_count.html show well the 2 phase
>> of mail sending.
>> I've also read that mails are send by wave instead of all in once...)
>>
>> But, ...My question is pure curiosity : what is the time frame
>> dedicated to the mail sending  ? where are we now? what is the time
>> between 2 waves ?
>>
>> anyone has any info on this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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[OSM-talk] Timeline for phase3 and so on. (Re: odbl)

[maning sambale]

OK then, I'm not asking for any legalese interpretation here, just the
time-line for the succeeding phases of implementation.  No fixed date
was given for phase 3 in the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan#PHASE_3_-_Existing_Contributor_Mandatory_Re-licensing_.28Phase_2_.2B_5_or_10_weeks.29

However, the OSMF minutes have set it already on March 31st:
https://docs.google.com/View?id=d38xqz5_6fj2bcdcm

Is this posted in the announce or legal list?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, David Murn  wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 03:45 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>> Joseph Reeves wrote:
>> > without explaining in layman's terms what this means.
>>
>> http://old.opengeodata.org/2008/01/07/the-licence-where-we-are-where-were-going/index.html
>>
>> Follow-ups to legal-talk please, so that those here who have made their mind
>> up one way or the other don't have to read the whole caboodle all over
>> again.
>
> What about the important reading who those havent made up their mind, or
> are worried about their liability if they agree to be bound by the new
> licence?
>
> Maybe what is needed, is a list for these discussions, which isnt so
> legal-focused, so that the laymen can actually understand what theyre
> involved in, or maybe instead of 100 people telling someone off for
> asking a question, one person could give a clear and precise answer and
> nip these threads in the bud from the start.
>
> Honestly, I couldnt give a rats rear-end if someone thinks that
> subsection 3.7b(c) should have its own title, or that the wording of
> 'OSM user' should be changed to 'OSM contributor' or the like.  Whether
> that is what is discussed on legal-talk, I dont know as I dont
> subscribe, but given its name, its only natural to assume so.. What I
> care about is the big picture of what will happen to all our data and
> the project in general, looking toward the future.  Given the entire
> project will undergo massive sweeping changes in only 3 weeks, shouldnt
> this issue be at the forefront of current OSM discussions, or will
> people start trying to sort out the problems after theyve happened,
> rather than stopping them in the first place?
>
> Im as tired as anyone about these endless threads, but until someone is
> prepared to give some clear cut answers to peoples simple honest
> questions, I fear they'll continue.  Some have tried to give helpful
> answers, but others seem to get off on playing the power game and
> achieve nothing but division within our community.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] webmap that plots coordinates and output gpx tracks

[maning sambale]

AFAIK, ORS does not cover my country (Philippines).

I'm using a combination of yournavigation and cloudmade routing (both
provides gpx output) for my purpose for now.

2011/3/5 Matthias Meißer :
> Hi,
>
> what about http://openrouteservice.org ?
> A few more are at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps#Routing
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[OSM-talk] webmap that plots coordinates and output gpx tracks

[maning sambale]

Suggestions on what webmap to use for a set of coordinates and then
provides a download of gpx track.  In the past I use yournavigation
but it can't find a route for my current set of points.  In addition,
the planet it is using is quite old (Nov 2010).  I'm considering the
use of MapQuest, but I can't find a way to put lat/lon and get the
output as GPX in the interface.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Generating a street directory from OSM?

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maposmatic is a good place to start:
http://www.maposmatic.org

walkingpapers has some overview map thingie as well
http://www.walking-papers.org/

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Steve Bennett  wrote:
> Hi all,
>  Wondered if anyone has ever put effort into producing a street
> directory from OSM data. For those in places where they're not common,
> a street directory is a bound book with numbered maps covering a city,
> at various scales. On the borders of each page are indications to the
> map that joins it (eg, "Joins map 53"). There are typically overview
> maps at the front, covering the whole city in two pages, and some
> touring maps at the end, covering the state or country, at very low
> detail. Sometimes there are special pages covering certain parts of
> the city at extra high zoom, like the CBD, universities, etc.
> Different formats suit different purposes: I have a Melway (roughly
> A4) and a much smaller UBD which can be held open in one hand (and
> consequently has hundreds of pages).
>
> Anyway it seemed like there would be some interesting technical
> challenges in producing such a thing, and making software to allow
> anyone to do this for their own city. Has anyone had a go?
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[OSM-talk] using walking papers where some data may not be used for OSM

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Hi,

Below is a possible use-case scenario we are planning to use OSM and
walking-papers [1].

A rural health organization deploys community health workers to
monitor household/individual health issues within far flung
communities.  They want to develop a an internal geospatial dbase of
its beneficiaries as well as community resources.  The org have very
limited IT resources and intends to use open source and open data in
their offline "GIS".

I see the potential of using walking papers as a good facility to
conduct resource mapping and household monitoring.  They can print out
wp and annotate the map during field visits.  They can then scan,
upload and download the rectified scans to update their database using
QGIS.   The GIS person then updates their own database and maybe add a
few roads, trails and other community resources in OSM.

Now for my question [2]:
1. Some data coming from wp prints will not be included in OSM either
for privacy or non-relevance to osm data.  Is this OK with the
existing and future license?
2. Because they used wp and osm to extract locations that will be
related to org database, should it comply with the with the
share-alike provision?

I appreciate other ideas on how to implement this.

[1] I know that it is possible to do everything in-house (wp and osm
software are open source anyway), but the organization have very
limited IT resources.
[2] Probably in legal list but I'm asking anyway :)
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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

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Steve Chilton?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Steve8

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:53 +1100, David Murn wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:13 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrote:
>> > >
>> http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima
>> >
>> > I am a little confused - who is SteveC? or are there two of them?
>> >
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Steve
>>
>>
>
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[OSM-talk] wiki list of bing imagery coverage (Re: Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile)

[maning sambale]

I started the list:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Chris Browet  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:06, Richard Weait  wrote:
>>
>> http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing
>>
>> http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima
>>
> Do we take bets on the time before the first article/blog comes out saying
> that OSM belongs to Microsoft ;-)
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[OSM-talk] monitoring tool request: GPS traces within a bbox

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Just an idea and an appeal to those interested to code.  I can really
use (perhaps to others as well) a simple tool wherein I can monitor
publicly uploaded traces within a bounding box of my area.  I noticed
a lot of unedited traces every time I download traces in josm.

Unless the user provide meaningful place tags in the uploaded trace, I
cannot actively monitor whether a new trace is uploaded via the rss
feed.

(or there is a tool like this already?)

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[OSM-talk] map tool to visualize river "topology" (Fwd: River system analysis tool for Haiti)

[maning sambale]

I found the site below from the osm-hot list:

The map shows river directions and rivers mouths draining to nowhere.
Good tool to Q/A waterway features, hope this is available worldwide.
One useful visualization would probably be,
varying line thickness depending on waterway hierarchy (stream/creeks,
rivers, riverbank, sea) from mountain peak to coast.  There are
exceptions of course.


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In Russia we have a tool which helps to correct some types of
topological errors in river systems.

http://dezhin.gis-lab.info/yav/?zoom=8&lat=55.37264&lon=39.44807&layers=BFTT
(sorry, it's in russian)

red markers - mouths without continuing
magenta markers - nodes of which flow out multiple rivers, but no one
does not fall into

If you want, then I can share the source code and help in setting up this tool.
It uses osm2pgsql, sql, mapserver and openlayers.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-ph] Cagayan Topomaps Typhoon Megi/Juan

[maning sambale]

Thank bunny!

Note that these maps are not rectified.  You can use mapwarper to
rectify the maps.
http://warper.geothings.net/

Please update the wiki if you georectified the maps along with the
link so that we can access the wms.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Leonard Soriano  wrote:
> Para sa lahat,
>
> Download link: http://www.4shared.com/dir/8CI8Nulj/Juan_Topomaps.html
> Folder Juan_topomaps
> Password: juan_topo_maps
> Uploaded topo maps
> 1. 7180 II Claveria
> 2. 7276 II Cordon
> 3. 7278 I Piat
> 4. 7280 III Sanches Mira
> 5. 7476 II Dinapique Pt
> 6. 7476 III Mt Dos Hermanos
> 7. 7476 IV San Mariano
> 8. 7477 I Divilacan Bay
> 9. 7477 IV Mount Cresta
> 10. 7478 III Baguio Point
> 11. 7478 IV Twin Peaks
> 12. 7480 III San Vicente
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[maning sambale]

There is a standby ushahidi instance from crowdmap:

http://phdisaster.crowdmap.com/

However, there are other existing webmaps from local news agency.  I
don't if another webmap is necessary.  For now, we should focus on
mapping.


On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:55 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Dear everyone,
>
> I created an activation request for mapping affected areas Typhoon
> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there are no high-res
> available in the area.  What we can for now is to map large rivers
> visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.
>
> As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas needing
> high-res imagery.
>
> Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan
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Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[maning sambale]

Are these maps rectified (hopefully in Geog Lat/Lon WGS 84 datum)?
Scale (hopefully not more than 1:50K)? We can use this to roughly
trace rivers.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Leonard Soriano  wrote:
> Manning,
>
> May mga scanned NAMRIA topo maps ako ng northern luzon. The maps are not up 
> to date but in any case there is a need I can upload it somewhere for 
> downloads.
>
> --bunny
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>
>> From: maning sambale 
>> Subject: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request
>> To: "osm-ph" , "osm-talk" 
>> Received: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 10:55 AM
>> Dear everyone,
>>
>> I created an activation request for mapping affected areas
>> Typhoon
>> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there
>> are no high-res
>> available in the area.  What we can for now is to map
>> large rivers
>> visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.
>>
>> As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas
>> needing
>> high-res imagery.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan
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[OSM-talk] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

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Dear everyone,

I created an activation request for mapping affected areas Typhoon
Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there are no high-res
available in the area.  What we can for now is to map large rivers
visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.

As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas needing
high-res imagery.

Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan

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Re: [OSM-talk] Doing God's Work / Oliver Kuehn interviews Jack Dangermond

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Is this the ArcGIS extension Jack mentioned?

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/tags/created_by=ArcGIS%20Exporter
2.55% of the created_by values

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   anyone who isn't hooked to the hip & trendy new age information fragment
> services might have missed this - OSMF's Oliver Kuehn interviews Jack
> Dangermond of ESRI about their OSM editor and their community map:
>
> http://vimeo.com/15607795
>
> Subject line is a quote from the video.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

[maning sambale]

Aww. No SPOTMaps for my mapping patch (Philippines).  Just to add to
Ævar's request, the mappers in the Philippines  would really
appreciate SPOT tracing.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi
>  wrote:
>> I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a
>> test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual
>> benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended
>> collaboration.
>>
>> Here is the SPOtMaps page in English :
>> http://www.spotimage.com/web/en/1285-spotmaps.php
>>
>> And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes /
>> Spot Image
>
> Hi Jeff. I was wondering what the SPOT-5 coverage was over
> Iceland. It's not listed on that page, in the KML file or in the
> country list. But according to this:
>
>    http://www.lmi.is/pages/fjarkonnun/spot-5-myndir-keyptar-2008-og-2009/
>
> And:
>
>    http://www.google.com/search?q=iceland+site:spotimage.com
>
> There's at least some coverage. But I assume it's really sparse or in
> low resolution and is thus is not listed on the main listing?
>
> Anyway, if you're looking for a country that you probably have minimal
> commercial gain anyway and that doesn't have any imagery already
> (except for Landsat) the mappers in Iceland would love to get access
> to SPOT-5 for tracing.
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[OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

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Dear all,

I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was
given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only
coverage?

blog post:
http://www.geographiques.org/carnet/2010/10/05/spot-images-met-a-disposition-de-la-communaute-openstreetmap-les-donnees-spotmaps/

google translate link:
http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=tl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geographiques.org%2Fcarnet%2F2010%2F10%2F05%2Fspot-images-met-a-disposition-de-la-communaute-openstreetmap-les-donnees-spotmaps%2F

Hoping we can do this for the Philippines as well.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Girona house videos all posted

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Thanks! I'm watching (mostly listening) to several talks.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:44 AM, David Carmean  wrote:
> * I'm missing the source file for Saturday morning in the main chamber;
Just curious, is SteveC's keynote part of the missing source files?


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Re: [OSM-talk] problems with the josm-latest.jar downloads

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Thanks Peter.

I switched to JAVA 6.  All is fine.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Wendorff
 wrote:
>  Hi.
> Since end of July JOSM requires Java 6.
> Perhaps that's the reason for the exception.
>
> I would say: check your Java version ;)
>
> regards
> Peter
>
> On 01.09.2010 12:41, maning sambale wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just downloaded josm-latest.jar and got the following errors:
>>
>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad
>> version number in .class file
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:676)
>>        at
>> java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124)
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56)
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
>>        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:317)
>>        at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:280)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:375)
>>
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[OSM-talk] problems with the josm-latest.jar downloads

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Hi,

I just downloaded josm-latest.jar and got the following errors:

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad
version number in .class file
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:676)
at 
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:317)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:280)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:375)

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Re: [OSM-talk] How do I turn JOSM's tiger:reviewed=no highlight off?

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Use the wireframe mode
Ctrl-R

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Nathan Edgars II  wrote:
> If a way is tagged tiger:reviewed=no, JOSM puts a highlight behind it,
> and when you select it the red is a lot fatter. How do I disable this?
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Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

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So what really is a good changeset comment?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Map Kibera article

[maning sambale]

I'm confused.

The article gives a link on Map Kibera Project to this site:
http://www.mapkiberaproject.org/

and not this one:
http://mapkibera.org/

Is it the same project? (me thinks no)

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:37 PM, David Earl  wrote:
> Design Observer, which I follow on and off for other reasons, has just
> published article about Kibera (which Mikel talked about most inspiringly at
> SotM).
>
> http://changeobserver.designobserver.com/entry.html?entry=14698
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[OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

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Are there plans to do this? Nothing was mentioned in the website

(from someone who would love to attend but can't)
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[OSM-talk] need help in creating webmap for showing jagged/saw-tooth coastlines

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Hi,

We have been cleaning up our coastlines in the Philippines, the
original coastline was an import of jagged/staircase-like coasts.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections

A perl script was created to report the starting point (lat,long) and
the number of steps for aeach natural=coastline way

Couple of images in qgis here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/sawtoothscoasts/

Large circles mean number of "steps"

Next task is to convert to a webmap.  Any idea how to create the
webmap?  Probably similar to openlayers cluster layer?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

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Is it back now?  I was able to edit a few minutes ago.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Toby Murray  wrote:
> Looks like this just started. Have to remember to pick up some
> anti-anxiety meds on the way home from work tonight. Must... edit...
> map!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Grant Slater
>  wrote:
>> On 26 June 2010 07:12, David Murn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Having just bought a new hard-drive, I found 400gb almost unavailable,
>>> most disks these days seem to start at 1tb and go up.
>>>
>>
>> These are 'Server' SCSI (Serial Attached SCSI) disks. They are still 
>> available.
>>
>> The highest available size is 600GB. We are going for the 450GB disks
>> to match our current disks in the storage array.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] request for revert changeset 5042575

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Thanks to balrog for responding to the request:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5047946

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:38 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to request a complete revert of this changeset:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5042575
>
> The user removed approximately 350++ POIs and removed all oneway tags
> within a fairly "mature" (osm-wise) area in Metro Manila.
> I already sent a message to the editor (no response so far), however,
> since this is a "mature" area, the osm-ph list agreed to revert the
> whole changeset to avoid further damage when other contributors try to
> correct the data by piecemeal.
>
> The changeset comment was "wedding map", maybe the user wants a
> simplified map for a wedding invitation. :)
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[OSM-talk] request for revert changeset 5042575

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Hi,

I would like to request a complete revert of this changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5042575

The user removed approximately 350++ POIs and removed all oneway tags
within a fairly "mature" (osm-wise) area in Metro Manila.
I already sent a message to the editor (no response so far), however,
since this is a "mature" area, the osm-ph list agreed to revert the
whole changeset to avoid further damage when other contributors try to
correct the data by piecemeal.

The changeset comment was "wedding map", maybe the user wants a
simplified map for a wedding invitation. :)
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[OSM-talk] case studies for using OSM data for dispatch and delivery services

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hi,

I'm looking for materials related to using OSM data for dispatch and
delivery services.  Any link, case study, technology presentation
would be very helpful.

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Re: [OSM-talk] stream mode digitizing in JOSM?

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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:09 AM, John Smith  wrote:
> On 28 May 2010 12:52, maning sambale  wrote:
>> When editing coastlines and very long rivers, I get some wrist strain
>
> How does a graphics tablet compare when needing to plot a large number
> of points?
No Idea, I don't have one.

> Alternatively there is a plugin in JOSM to map waterways, no idea how
> well this works.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Lakewalker
I tried this one, but it doesn't work consistently as I expect it to.
On the other hand, I didn't tweak any of the default settings.  Will
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[OSM-talk] stream mode digitizing in JOSM?

[maning sambale]

When editing coastlines and very long rivers, I get some wrist strain
due to the numerous clicks to get a good "coasty" coastline.

Is there a plugin somewhere for stream-mode digitizing?  IMO, it is
easier to do stream mode digitizing and then use the simplify tool to
remove excess nodes.
http://thoreau.dnr.state.mn.us/mis/gis/tools/arcview/Training/WebHelp/DNRExt/Stream_Mode/Page10-2.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] wikiloc traces and openstreetmap

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Thanks Sam.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
> Hi Manning, Jordi, t...@osm
>
> Jordi can confirm, but i'd say that you need to get direct permission
> from the wikiloc.com user, to use their tracks. An easy way todo that
> is to comment on their published route (and that user would probably
> recieve notice of a comment)
>
> btw, the tracks i have listed are already in OSM, i just uploaded them
> to both places. :)
> wikiloc is more about recording trips you took & want to share the route.
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> On 5/13/10, maning sambale  wrote:
>> Is it OK to use traces from wikiloc as source material for openstreetmap?
>>
>> The terms doesn't say much on how to use the tracks as derived work.
>> http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/terms_en.html?v2
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Help to import Rio de Janeiro city data to OSM - misaligned shapefiles

[maning sambale]

This is usually a datum shift/SRS issue.  Check if you have the
correct projection and datum of the shapefile.  Ths is contained in
the prj file (filename.prj)


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Arlindo Pereira
 wrote:
> Hi there,
> I just managed to get the permission to import import the city government
> data into OSM. However, I'm not able to import it to JOSM successfully.
> The data is on different shapefiles, that for greater convenience I mirrored
> on my webserver:
> http://nighto.net/rio.zip
> http://nighto.net/rio/
> I found out that the easiest way to have an .osm file editable on JOSM would
> be using Iván's ogr2osm.py [1] and it worked out pretty well. However, the
> tracks are misaligned with the tracks I already have collected with GPS
> (which is aligned to the Yahoo! imagery, so they're not bad tracks). Please
> check this
> screenshot: http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7035/capturadetelak.png In
> this example, i converted the "ciclovias.*" files (cycleways) to .osm,
> opened in JOSM and downloaded this area. The shapefile converted way is
> selected (red) and the OSM (captured with GPS) is in dark grey.
> Any ideas? I don't think that the government data is misaligned like that.
> Also, selecting all the ways on the converted osm layer on JOSM and drag
> over until they align with something that already exists could work out, but
> there's probably a better way to do it. I thought about creating a shell
> script to add/subtract the lat/lon numbers on all nodes, but maybe someone
> would come out with a magical conversion that would work out perfectly :)
> Thanks a lot!
> Cheers,
> Arlindo "Nighto" Pereira
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