Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti
Hi John, I started to work on a tool which generates the OLC in a convenient way on the OSM map: http://ausleuchtung.ch/olc/ Just left click on the map to get the OLC code. The map memorizes a location where the OLC was generated last time. The OLC length is 11 characters (8+3), it means the precision is about one meter. I plan to add a possibility to save/delete the generated codes as geo-markers on the map. A municipality dispatcher can retrieve a location either via link similar to: https://plus.codes/87C4VXQ2+P42 or via Google Maps search box. I could not figure out how to get a location from the OLC and the OpenStreetMap. These links do not work so far: https://www.osm.org/olc/87C4VXQ2+P42 https://www.osm.org/go/87C4VXQ2+P42 https://www.osm.org/87C4VXQ2+P42 The OSM's search box does not accept the OLC either. So I will probably add the location retrieval feature to the tool too. Best regards, Oleksiy On 26.08.18 00:03, john whelan wrote: It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, electric company etc. The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction on the north side of the highway. When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type in names such as Bottriell Way. So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones are more frequently covered than others. They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit? Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would avoid transcription errors. I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another. Inspiration anyone? Thanks John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti
Mobile phones let geolocate pictures. Why not simply send a geolocated pictures? This would document the graffiti at the same time. Pierre Le mercredi 29 août 2018 16 h 57 min 25 s HAE, john whelan a écrit : But what is needed to make it work? Thanks John On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:59 pm Pine W, wrote: Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the creek". Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan wrote: It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, electric company etc. The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction on the north side of the highway. When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type in names such as Bottriell Way. So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones are more frequently covered than others. They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit? Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would avoid transcription errors. I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another. Inspiration anyone? Thanks John___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti
But what is needed to make it work? Thanks John On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:59 pm Pine W, wrote: > Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using > coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read > your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in > particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a > public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates > would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron > statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the > creek". > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan > wrote: > >> It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the >> municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, >> electric company etc. >> >> The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on >> stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly >> where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction >> on the north side of the highway. >> >> When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut >> and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to >> type in names such as Bottriell Way. >> >> So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to >> be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a >> node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones >> are more frequently covered than others. >> >> They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check >> digit? >> >> Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone >> companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be >> confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would >> avoid transcription errors. >> >> I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could >> use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another. >> >> Inspiration anyone? >> >> Thanks John >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti
Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the creek". Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan wrote: > It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the > municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, > electric company etc. > > The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on > stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly > where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction > on the north side of the highway. > > When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and > paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type > in names such as Bottriell Way. > > So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to > be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a > node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones > are more frequently covered than others. > > They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit? > > Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone > companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be > confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would > avoid transcription errors. > > I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could > use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another. > > Inspiration anyone? > > Thanks John > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti
It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, electric company etc. The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction on the north side of the highway. When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type in names such as Bottriell Way. So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones are more frequently covered than others. They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit? Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would avoid transcription errors. I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another. Inspiration anyone? Thanks John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
