Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Lester Caine
On 29/06/18 16:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Second: The very foundations of OSM as a project are techno-political in terms that it was created to overcome the lack of certain geographical information about certain areas or topics. This is even more obvious in HOSM or the not-at-all-accidental use

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Warin
On 30/06/18 01:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-06-29 17:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue [1] discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their grave consequences derived from gambling addiction (there are

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 29.06.2018 o 17:27, Carlos Cámara pisze: > This is to say that openstreetmap-carto is OSM's business card, which > should serve as an entry point to the project to people from many > conditions and hence, we have a responsibility in deciding what do we > display and how we do it Of

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29. Jun 2018 17:27 by carlos.cam...@gmail.com : > OSM does not take "any ethical stance and display the world as it is." > It is for that reason that I want to raise that particular topic to OSM > community: > Is that true? yes   > and if so, should it

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Jan Martinec
Hello, TL;DR: I disagree with the proposal, OSM would fall apart without OTGR. As for "we should change the world by creating the map", this is THE antithesis to OpenStreetMap. As soon we depart from the On-The-Ground Rule, and start mapping "what _I_think_ ought (not) exist", we become

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Carlos Cámara wrote: > Willing to read your points of view on that matter. There is a whole lot I could say on this (writing "Eurocentric" in a discussion about casinos seems really weird, and I'm not sure Native Americans would thank you for it) but ultimately it's a little academic at the

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread James
Not showing things on map to me is a form of censorship. I.E if a study finds that the sight of trees triggers suicide by hanging do we start removing all tree icons? This sets a precedent to what can and can't be displayed on map. There are some disputed boarders that are displayed differently

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Do keep in mind that none of the maintainers opposed (as far as I can see). The comments are essentially from random people who may or may not be closely involved in the project. Michał pt., 29 cze 2018, 17:30 użytkownik Carlos Cámara napisał: > Dear all, > > After participating in this

[OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Carlos Cámara
Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their grave consequences derived from gambling