[OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hack_the_Map So My point is that, just like mapping parties include both field work and computer work. Hack the Map is the idea to do only computer work, in which organisers will also set up a lap to do all the mapping at one place and also to teach others about how to do that and to aware people, and people interested all over the world can also join them to make the maps. In this context people joining online can do mapping the area of slot allotted to them or of there own area, and the people joining them around the world will be appreciated and there name will be also included in the page of the event. This is just and Idea and motive is the Enrichment of OSM Maps. Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. Thank You. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: o...@parveenarora.in ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
Parveen, On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hack_the_Map So My point is that, just like mapping parties include both field work and computer work. Hack the Map is the idea to do only computer work, in which organisers will also set up a lap to do all the mapping at one place and also to teach others about how to do that and to aware people, and people interested all over the world can also join them to make the maps. In this context people joining online can do mapping the area of slot allotted to them or of there own area, and the people joining them around the world will be appreciated and there name will be also included in the page of the event. This is just and Idea and motive is the Enrichment of OSM Maps. Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. Thank You. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: o...@parveenarora.in ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- martijn van exel schaaltreinen.nl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On 6/15/2011 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those downloading large areas via the API. It would be handy to be able to change the external IP address to recover from that. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those downloading large areas via the API. You mean to block of IP from where editing is being done? It would be handy to be able to change the external IP address to recover from that. But what If I am not allowed to change my external IP address as we are in college network. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: o...@parveenarora.in ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 6/15/2011 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those downloading large areas via the API. It would be handy to be able to change the external IP address to recover from that. ... And to emphasize the importance of zooming in to the smallest practical area before editing to try to avoid it in the first place. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hack_the_Map [ ... ] Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. I'm sure there have been similar events before. I apologize for being critical of your event. It seems to me that training new mappers about OSM only with armchair mapping techniques misses an important opportunity. To be sure, aerial imagery can be a helpful resource when mapping. But aerial imagery is only one resource, and it is one that is often a years-old reference. Even aerial imagery that is current offers only a limited perspective. Please include real field work as part of your event. It is that real field work that provides the very best, most current, data to a mapper. Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On 6/15/2011 7:00 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mike Nnice...@att.net wrote: Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those downloading large areas via the API. You mean to block of IP from where editing is being done? Yes, that is correct. It would be handy to be able to change the external IP address to recover from that. But what If I am not allowed to change my external IP address as we are in college network. As already noted - go to the highest zoom on the map before switching to edit mode for Potlatch. Minimize browsing in edit mode with Potlatch (this is tempting because it works so well). For JOSM, obtain likely areas of interest in advance and have it available to load from a file. Note that it will be out of date as soon as there is an edit, but students will want to work with the real map and see their changes as soon as possible. If anyone has a cellphone with tethering capabilities or a MiFi- type of device, that could serve as a backup in case the auto API limit takes effect. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: First of all, thanks for your valuable response. I'm sure there have been similar events before. Yes, I also thinks that there are many. I apologize for being critical of your event. It seems to me that training new mappers about OSM only with armchair mapping techniques misses an important opportunity. To be sure, aerial imagery can be a helpful resource when mapping. But aerial imagery is only one resource, and it is one that is often a years-old reference. Even aerial imagery that is current offers only a limited perspective. Please include real field work as part of your event. It is that real field work that provides the very best, most current, data to a mapper. We are organising mapping parties from last few years at continuous intervals, and we have also collected the data of large areas and data collected is also of very rich quality. But the problem is that we are not finding any satisfactory results. By analysing and observing all the facts we concluded that most of the people does not have the exact knowledge of how to edit make correctly and effectively, some time they also uses to give wrong tags to nodes and way-points, which is not a good thing for OSM maps. So In result we have collected the large amount of data in last mapping parties which is still pending to upload or not edited correctly. So we decided to train the students to edit maps, teaching them field work to collect data is easy but I think we should have more concentrate teach people how to edit maps effectively and correctly. As most of the people does not prefer to get or read all the pages available on wiki for there help. Please correct me If I am wrong. Thank You. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: o...@parveenarora.in ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.
Richard Weait writes: Please include real field work as part of your event. It is that real field work that provides the very best, most current, data to a mapper. Just one caveat to Richard's note: It's reasonable to use aerial photographs as a positional reference for your personal knowledge of an area. For example, I was just in the Catskills and noted several things without recording them on my GPS. I can use the aerial photo to locate the feature I remember even if it's not on the photo because it's too new or vice-versa in the photo but not on the ground because it's been dismantled. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk