Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 17:08:00 +0100 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 24. Nov 2017, at 11:00, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > > > In general there are many possible reasons why you would want to > > map a school with a node. Like: > > > > * you don't have verifiable information on the extent of the school > > grounds. > > * the school consists of a number of rooms in a building but not > > the whole building. > > * there are multiple schools using the same infrastructure > > together. > > > yes, case 2 and 3 could alternatively also be mapped with relations > or overlapping ways (conveying more information than a node), but if > you don’t know the extent it is best to use a node. When two schools share a building, it's common for the dividing line to shift from year to year depending on the makeup of the student body. Mapping this as two school nodes in a building is probably the best way of doing this, as the *entrances* to the schools are usually separate, and don't change over time. -- Mark ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
sent from a phone > On 24. Nov 2017, at 11:00, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > In general there are many possible reasons why you would want to map a > school with a node. Like: > > * you don't have verifiable information on the extent of the school > grounds. > * the school consists of a number of rooms in a building but not the > whole building. > * there are multiple schools using the same infrastructure together. yes, case 2 and 3 could alternatively also be mapped with relations or overlapping ways (conveying more information than a node), but if you don’t know the extent it is best to use a node. Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:00:29 + Janko Mihelic wrote: > so one of them should be deleted (preferably the node). done thanks. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On 24/11/2017 12:23, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 24.11.2017 o 08:57, David SAUVAGE pisze: What would be the process to change this situation in order for school icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? Let me quote what I've just wrote in the osm-carto issue tracker: "We had a PR which was almost ready, but we were unable to decide how to deal with label scaling, because we do this for schools and the icon is not to be scaled. There are also other similar objects (like hospitals etc), which use the icon, but don't use text scaling, so that would be inconsistent. So the most important thing is to find a rule for all such objects. If we have it, rendering education icons could be made quite easily." As an aside, if the discussion (which is now at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/120 ) doesn't work out, it may also be possible to create your own map tiles based on a style that you create. If you want to create the same sort of map tiles that you can see at OpenStreetMap.org you can follow instructions at https://switch2osm.org/manually-building-a-tile-server-16-04-2-lts/ . There are other options too (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering for some of those). If you're trying to follow instructions such as those and get stuck you could try asking on IRC (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC ) - the #osm and #osm-dev channels are English-language ones, but there will be people available to help there, and there's also #osm-fr in French where I'm sure people will be able to help too. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
W dniu 24.11.2017 o 08:57, David SAUVAGE pisze: What would be the process to change this situation in order for school icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? Let me quote what I've just wrote in the osm-carto issue tracker: "We had a PR which was almost ready, but we were unable to decide how to deal with label scaling, because we do this for schools and the icon is not to be scaled. There are also other similar objects (like hospitals etc), which use the icon, but don't use text scaling, so that would be inconsistent. So the most important thing is to find a rule for all such objects. If we have it, rendering education icons could be made quite easily." -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
pet, 24. stu 2017. u 09:01 David SAUVAGE napisao je: > > (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-20.26576/57.47946 It's a bit off topic, but the example shows the same school mapped twice. As if there are two schools in the same place, one mapped as an area(1), one as a node(2). I suspect this is the same school, so one of them should be deleted (preferably the node). (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/542526629 (2) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5245266481 Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On Friday 24 November 2017, Philip Barnes wrote: > David > Is there any reason you are mapping schools as nodes? > In general there are many possible reasons why you would want to map a school with a node. Like: * you don't have verifiable information on the extent of the school grounds. * the school consists of a number of rooms in a building but not the whole building. * there are multiple schools using the same infrastructure together. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On 11/24/2017 01:26 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > David > Is there any reason you are mapping schools as nodes? >I invite you to read the issue #2957 I just created on openstreetmap-carto https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2957 -- David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
David Is there any reason you are mapping schools as nodes? I do not see an issue when mapped as areas. Phil (trigpoint) On 24 November 2017 09:19:20 GMT+00:00, David SAUVAGE wrote: >On 11/24/2017 12:24 PM, Rory McCann wrote: >> To suggest a change/report a problem/etc you "file an issue" at this >> page https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues > >many thanks Rory, > >issue Enhance visibility of education nodes (school) added >https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2957 > > >-- >David > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On 11/24/2017 12:24 PM, Rory McCann wrote: > To suggest a change/report a problem/etc you "file an issue" at this > page https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues many thanks Rory, issue Enhance visibility of education nodes (school) added https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2957 -- David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
On 24/11/17 08:57, David SAUVAGE wrote: What would be the process to change this situation in order for school icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? The map style on the osm.org website is called "openstreetmap-carto". It's developed online here https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto. To suggest a change/report a problem/etc you "file an issue" at this page https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues Rory ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
Normally we map schools as areas, in which case they show quite prominently as yellow areas. The tag is put on the area of the grounds. Mapping something so large as a node seems quite odd to me. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8570/-2.7287 Phil (trigpoint) On 24 November 2017 07:57:20 GMT+00:00, David SAUVAGE wrote: >Dear all, > >From my understanding, school icons are not displayed in the default >OSM >(that is not the case of library, restaurant, gas station, ... >elements) > >Is there any specific reason leading to this choice ? > >What would be the process to change this situation in order for school >icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? > >For example, I just contributed a few residential roads and the "Quatre >Bornes State Secondary School" (1). I am disappointed that in a major >public interest project, the public schools do not get the priority it >deserves, while private entities as banks, fast foods, fuel stations >are >made much more visible... > > >(1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-20.26576/57.47946 > >Thanks all for your great contributions > >-- >David -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?
Dear all, From my understanding, school icons are not displayed in the default OSM (that is not the case of library, restaurant, gas station, ... elements) Is there any specific reason leading to this choice ? What would be the process to change this situation in order for school icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? For example, I just contributed a few residential roads and the "Quatre Bornes State Secondary School" (1). I am disappointed that in a major public interest project, the public schools do not get the priority it deserves, while private entities as banks, fast foods, fuel stations are made much more visible... (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-20.26576/57.47946 Thanks all for your great contributions -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
