Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
On 07/08/2013 18:51, John Firebaugh wrote: Update: I've opened a pull request, and Tom Hughes has made 1.1.0rc1 available on an OSM.org test server: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/424 http://tomh.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ Unless any show-stopping bugs are found, I'll release 1.1 in a few days. As an end user, I'd like to thank John Paul for announcing future upgrades in this end user forum. This will go a long way to appeasing the confusion even anger at the front page/editors changing without apparent notice. Keep it up! I never quite understood the resistance to do his in the past. Development forums are fine for sorting out the zeros ones, but when an update is ready for release, this forum is the logical one for the announcement. (There may be other suitable ones as well). One minor query: As with Tom Hughes test page, these require a separate login, or use OpenID. I presume any edits done under these wont appear under my user name for the main web page login. Is there a way for these test pages to use my original login details? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
On 08/08/13 13:03, Dave F. wrote: I never quite understood the resistance to do his in the past. I don't think there's any resistance to it, it's just not clear how practical or useful it is to do it on a large scale. Development forums are fine for sorting out the zeros ones, but when an update is ready for release, this forum is the logical one for the announcement. (There may be other suitable ones as well). The problem is that the talk list has a large number of subscribers with a large number of (often diametrically opposed) beliefs, so it is hard to distill anything meaningful from the comments produced by any change that is not entirely innocuous. Do I count the number of people in favour/against? The number of emails they manage to send (probably not...) or what? What exactly is the required quorum and what proportion of people need to be in favour or against to approve/block a change? Basically democracy, with anything beyond a fairly small electorate, is a really bad way of developing things. One minor query: As with Tom Hughes test page, these require a separate login, or use OpenID. I presume any edits done under these wont appear under my user name for the main web page login. Is there a way for these test pages to use my original login details? No, because they each use their own database, which is entirely separate from the main database. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
Tom Hughes wrote: No, because they each use their own database, which is entirely separate from the main database. ...and because site improvements often require changes to the database structure - new columns, new indexes, and so on - so it wouldn't generally be possible to hook test instances up to the main (unimproved) database even if it were desirable. [This is implicit in Tom's message but I thought I'd point it out!] cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/In-the-works-iD-1-1-tp5772153p5772960.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
On 08/08/13 14:06, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: No, because they each use their own database, which is entirely separate from the main database. ...and because site improvements often require changes to the database structure - new columns, new indexes, and so on - so it wouldn't generally be possible to hook test instances up to the main (unimproved) database even if it were desirable. [This is implicit in Tom's message but I thought I'd point it out!] Indeed. If it wasn't for that then all the test instances would probably share one database, which would help here. The fact that different test instances may have different schemas prevents that however. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: One minor query: As with Tom Hughes test page, these require a separate login, or use OpenID. I presume any edits done under these wont appear under my user name for the main web page login. Is there a way for these test pages to use my original login details? The deployment of the iD release on the openstreetmap.us server hits the live database if you want to try using the release candidate for actual editing. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: The deployment of the iD release on the openstreetmap.us server hits the live database if you want to try using the release candidate for actual editing. http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/# ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
Update: I've opened a pull request, and Tom Hughes has made 1.1.0rc1 available on an OSM.org test server: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/424 http://tomh.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ Unless any show-stopping bugs are found, I'll release 1.1 in a few days. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 AM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks, Continuing the experiment that Paul Norman kicked off with announcing proposed and in progress development, I'd like to announce that iD 1.1 is nearing release. I've just tagged 1.1.0rc1, and you can give it a spin here: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/ This release focuses on relation editing support and performance improvements. The relations that each feature is a member of are displayed in the sidebar, and when a relation itself is selected, it's members are displayed. You can also search for relations via a new search interface, add and remove memberships, and create new relations. We made performance improvements across the board, focusing on load time and editing performance in dense areas. For example, while iD 1.0.1 on Firefox takes 50 seconds to load a dense area like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=idlat=49.969975lon=8.837839zoom=16, iD 1.1 loads it in 20 seconds. In some cases, improvements were limited by native browser performance bottlenecks, but we are seeing some progress by browser developers in eliminating these as well. A detailed changelog is available here: https://github.com/systemed/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md As always, the best place for feedback and bug reports is the iD project on GitHub: https://github.com/systemed/iD/ Thanks, John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1
Hi folks, Continuing the experiment that Paul Norman kicked off with announcing proposed and in progress development, I'd like to announce that iD 1.1 is nearing release. I've just tagged 1.1.0rc1, and you can give it a spin here: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/ This release focuses on relation editing support and performance improvements. The relations that each feature is a member of are displayed in the sidebar, and when a relation itself is selected, it's members are displayed. You can also search for relations via a new search interface, add and remove memberships, and create new relations. We made performance improvements across the board, focusing on load time and editing performance in dense areas. For example, while iD 1.0.1 on Firefox takes 50 seconds to load a dense area like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=idlat=49.969975lon=8.837839zoom=16, iD 1.1 loads it in 20 seconds. In some cases, improvements were limited by native browser performance bottlenecks, but we are seeing some progress by browser developers in eliminating these as well. A detailed changelog is available here: https://github.com/systemed/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md As always, the best place for feedback and bug reports is the iD project on GitHub: https://github.com/systemed/iD/ Thanks, John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
