Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Alexander Menk

wrote:
> Sam Vekemans wrote:
>> is anyone mapping the spill, showing the area?
>
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jywarren/grassroots-mapping-the-gulf-oil-spill-with-balloon?pos=3&ref=recommended
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Alexander Menk]

Sam Vekemans wrote:
> is anyone mapping the spill, showing the area?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jywarren/grassroots-mapping-the-gulf-oil-spill-with-balloon?pos=3&ref=recommended

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[John Smith]

On 12 June 2010 23:09, Gregory  wrote:
> http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/
> Is really cool.
> I had thought about doing something like that with letting users trace
> anything on OSM (e.g. a large park) and being able to see it on another
> location (e.g. compare it to the size of a park near their home).

You could load this as a kml type file in openlayer and then let
people drag the shape around, but I've never tried to do anything
exactly like that...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Gregory]

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/
Is really cool.

I had thought about doing something like that with letting users trace
anything on OSM (e.g. a large park) and being able to see it on another
location (e.g. compare it to the size of a park near their home).

On 12 June 2010 05:05, Sam Vekemans  wrote:

> Thanks :)
> That what I was looking for, CNN & facebook grumbling, and news papers
> are not able to properly digest it.
>
> Good thing that oil floats. And its great to hear that the volume is
> finally being contained with less 'uncontrolable flow'.
>
> Like a water main leak, 'duck tape' doesnt help, as there is no
> 'cut-off' valve.
> Like my volcano example earlier, its like trying to stop a lava flow
> (which cannot be stopped). It can only be 'redirected' to follow the
> path of least resistance. Mother nature built the containment shell,
> which got broken as soon as the well was initially dug.
>
> Anyway, happy that people are mapping it :)
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> On 6/11/10, Ian Dees  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Sam Vekemans <
> acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Negative thinking aside, just listing WHERE it is, is important to know.
> >>
> >>
> >> Zooming out, its easy to keep 'close' as that is all thats needed,
> >> using whatever imagery is available.
> >>
> >> We have unlimited crowd source, who can map anything anywhere. And it
> >> is 'stuck to the ground'. And we can also help the responders focus on
> >> areas that need to be protected.
> >>
> >> This is a perminant area transformation like a 'volcano lava flow'.
> >> Where the area will be a perminant sedement area, and needs to be
> >> known.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if it is already being mapped?
> >>
> >>
> > NOAA is mapping it quite well:
> >
> >
> http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY(entry_subtopic_topic)=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=809&subtopic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=2&topic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=1
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Sam Vekemans]

Thanks :)
That what I was looking for, CNN & facebook grumbling, and news papers
are not able to properly digest it.

Good thing that oil floats. And its great to hear that the volume is
finally being contained with less 'uncontrolable flow'.

Like a water main leak, 'duck tape' doesnt help, as there is no
'cut-off' valve.
Like my volcano example earlier, its like trying to stop a lava flow
(which cannot be stopped). It can only be 'redirected' to follow the
path of least resistance. Mother nature built the containment shell,
which got broken as soon as the well was initially dug.

Anyway, happy that people are mapping it :)

Cheers,
Sam

On 6/11/10, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Sam Vekemans > wrote:
>
>> Negative thinking aside, just listing WHERE it is, is important to know.
>>
>>
>> Zooming out, its easy to keep 'close' as that is all thats needed,
>> using whatever imagery is available.
>>
>> We have unlimited crowd source, who can map anything anywhere. And it
>> is 'stuck to the ground'. And we can also help the responders focus on
>> areas that need to be protected.
>>
>> This is a perminant area transformation like a 'volcano lava flow'.
>> Where the area will be a perminant sedement area, and needs to be
>> known.
>>
>> Does anyone know if it is already being mapped?
>>
>>
> NOAA is mapping it quite well:
>
> http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY(entry_subtopic_topic)=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=809&subtopic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=2&topic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=1
>


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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[John Smith]

On 12 June 2010 13:37, Ian Dees  wrote:
> NOAA is mapping it quite well:
> http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY(entry_subtopic_topic)=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=809&subtopic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=2&topic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=1

Not only that, but people are mapping blooms in 3D under the water:

http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/06/08/2143227/US-Confirms-Underwater-Oil-Plume?from=rss

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Sam Vekemans  wrote:

> Negative thinking aside, just listing WHERE it is, is important to know.
>
>
> Zooming out, its easy to keep 'close' as that is all thats needed,
> using whatever imagery is available.
>
> We have unlimited crowd source, who can map anything anywhere. And it
> is 'stuck to the ground'. And we can also help the responders focus on
> areas that need to be protected.
>
> This is a perminant area transformation like a 'volcano lava flow'.
> Where the area will be a perminant sedement area, and needs to be
> known.
>
> Does anyone know if it is already being mapped?
>
>
NOAA is mapping it quite well:

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY(entry_subtopic_topic)=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=809&subtopic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=2&topic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=1
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[John Smith]

On 12 June 2010 13:16, Sam Vekemans  wrote:
> This is a perminant area transformation like a 'volcano lava flow'.
> Where the area will be a perminant sedement area, and needs to be
> known.

That isn't mapping, that's making projections based on currents and
stuff, you'd need a lot of fluid dynamics to keep up with it all, not
exactly the kind of thing OSM, or the current crowd (which isn't
unlimited -- there is only about 10k-12k active mappers) is really
suited to.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Sam Vekemans]

Negative thinking aside, just listing WHERE it is, is important to know.


Zooming out, its easy to keep 'close' as that is all thats needed,
using whatever imagery is available.

We have unlimited crowd source, who can map anything anywhere. And it
is 'stuck to the ground'. And we can also help the responders focus on
areas that need to be protected.

This is a perminant area transformation like a 'volcano lava flow'.
Where the area will be a perminant sedement area, and needs to be
known.

Does anyone know if it is already being mapped?
Sam

On 6/11/10, John F. Eldredge  wrote:
> Given that the spill is constantly expanding, mapping it would become a
> full-time job if you wanted the information to be anywhere close to
> up-to-date.
>
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> to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Vekemans 
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:50:26
> To: 
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill
>
> Hi,
> is anyone mapping the spill, showing the area?
> Does anyone know of Public Domain imagery available?
>
> The area is no longer a nature preserve, but an 'industrial area'. Or
> 'liquid_waste' or something.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[John F. Eldredge]

Given that the spill is constantly expanding, mapping it would become a 
full-time job if you wanted the information to be anywhere close to up-to-date.

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think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

-Original Message-
From: Sam Vekemans 
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:50:26 
To: 
Subject: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

Hi,
is anyone mapping the spill, showing the area?
Does anyone know of Public Domain imagery available?

The area is no longer a nature preserve, but an 'industrial area'. Or
'liquid_waste' or something.

Thanks,
Sam


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[OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi,
is anyone mapping the spill, showing the area?
Does anyone know of Public Domain imagery available?

The area is no longer a nature preserve, but an 'industrial area'. Or
'liquid_waste' or something.

Thanks,
Sam


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