[OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Severin Menard
Hi,

Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so. When editing the OSM
wiki and adding links, there is a -are-you-really-a-human-being check (what
makes completely sense) through Captcha. My concern is that currently
Captcha requests to put a number from a picture that is actually a photo
from a great existing address. And the result, if I am not wrong, just
feeds Google address database. Can we not switch to another checking
system? There are others, actually less cumbersome, that do not feed a
totally copyrighted database?

Sincerely,

Severin
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
The last discussions about this that I can remember (and find with a quick
search) were OSM-talk threads:
- Hate captchas starting March 14,
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069320.html and
the follow-up to it
- ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 online! (Was: Hate captchas) starting March
28, https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069526.html

Cheers,
-Jaakko

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On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Hi,

 Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so. When editing the
 OSM wiki and adding links, there is a -are-you-really-a-human-being check
 (what makes completely sense) through Captcha. My concern is that currently
 Captcha requests to put a number from a picture that is actually a photo
 from a great existing address. And the result, if I am not wrong, just
 feeds Google address database. Can we not switch to another checking
 system? There are others, actually less cumbersome, that do not feed a
 totally copyrighted database?

 Sincerely,

 Severin

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Barth
Hi,

Severin Menard schrieb:
 Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so. 

it has, but still a good thing you raised this again as I'd also like 
something to change here.

 And the result, if I am not wrong, just
 feeds Google address database. 

Yes.
And that's why Stefan Keller (or one of his students I think) created 
ReMAPTCHA to have a captcha system helping OSM. The dicussion was on 
this list in March 14 (can be found in the archives: 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069526.html)

Peda

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi Severin, hello all

Yes, ReMAPTCHA is still running as prototypes in two versions
here: http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/
and here: http://remaptcha2.herokuapp.com/

On one hand I'm not sure how high its acceptance is and on the other
hand it's challenging to implement a reliable system having limited
time and resources.

Yours, Stefan



2014-08-16 20:05 GMT+02:00 Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de:
 Hi,

 Severin Menard schrieb:
 Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so.

 it has, but still a good thing you raised this again as I'd also like
 something to change here.

 And the result, if I am not wrong, just
 feeds Google address database.

 Yes.
 And that's why Stefan Keller (or one of his students I think) created
 ReMAPTCHA to have a captcha system helping OSM. The dicussion was on
 this list in March 14 (can be found in the archives:
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069526.html)

 Peda

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Stefan Keller
...perhaps we're getting a step further at State of the Map nov. 2014
in Buenos Aires?

--Stefan

2014-08-16 20:30 GMT+02:00 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com:
 Hi Severin, hello all

 Yes, ReMAPTCHA is still running as prototypes in two versions
 here: http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/
 and here: http://remaptcha2.herokuapp.com/

 On one hand I'm not sure how high its acceptance is and on the other
 hand it's challenging to implement a reliable system having limited
 time and resources.

 Yours, Stefan



 2014-08-16 20:05 GMT+02:00 Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de:
 Hi,

 Severin Menard schrieb:
 Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so.

 it has, but still a good thing you raised this again as I'd also like
 something to change here.

 And the result, if I am not wrong, just
 feeds Google address database.

 Yes.
 And that's why Stefan Keller (or one of his students I think) created
 ReMAPTCHA to have a captcha system helping OSM. The dicussion was on
 this list in March 14 (can be found in the archives:
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069526.html)

 Peda

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