Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > I am glad this conversation has restarted. A few of you, (Me, Paul, > others..) will recall a similar conversation on the openstreetmap-carto > repo a few years ago where I noted that there are simply too many of

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Elliott Plack
I am glad this conversation has restarted. A few of you, (Me, Paul, others..) will recall a similar conversation on the openstreetmap-carto repo a few years ago where I noted that there are simply too many of these micro airports shown on the map. We discussed at great length how the relative

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > Hi, > > * Martijn van Exel [160412 16:29]: > > Thanks for the feedback. I understand that the existence of an small > airfield can be hard to verify from imagery - [..] > > one more thing to

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Paul Norman [160412 17:27]: > On 4/12/2016 2:40 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: >> On Tuesday 12 April 2016, Martijn van Exel wrote: I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 12 April 2016, Paul Norman wrote: > > > > I am not sure here. For small airfields the aeroway=aerodrome > > feature is a fairly abstract thing essentially indicating only that > > this is a place where aircrafts start or land. This is not > > generally something that can be reliably

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/12/2016 2:40 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 12 April 2016, Martijn van Exel wrote: >Hi, > >I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the >first time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is >obviously no airport or airfield. I am not sure

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Martijn van Exel [160412 16:29]: > Thanks for the feedback. I understand that the existence of an small airfield > can be hard to verify from imagery - [..] one more thing to check: If the node was imported from GNIS, check the GNIS website searching for the feature id.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, Thanks for the feedback. I understand that the existence of an small airfield can be hard to verify from imagery - but I am also wondering what the value of this unverified and stale data is to OSM. If they were mapper surveyed nodes to begin with I would perhaps feel the need to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-04-12 11:25 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > But now we're getting into something for which there's NOTAMs and > established official data on, in a highly variable space, and one that is > generally > regarded as out of scope of this project >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 12 April 2016, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the > first time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is > obviously no airport or airfield. I am not sure here. For small airfields the aeroway=aerodrome

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 12 April 2016, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the > first time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is > obviously no airport or airfield. I am not sure here. For small airfields the aeroway=aerodrome

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-04-12 11:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > >> Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just because we don't see >>> anything in the aerial imagery? Isn't this maybe also a legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-04-12 11:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > >> Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just because we don't see >>> anything in the aerial imagery? Isn't this maybe also a legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-04-12 11:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just because we don't see >> anything in the aerial imagery? Isn't this maybe also a legal question >> besides physical characteristics? >> > > Well, if it's not on the ground, what are we

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-04-12 4:50 GMT+02:00 Martijn van Exel : > >> I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first >> time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-04-12 4:50 GMT+02:00 Martijn van Exel : > >> I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first >> time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-04-12 4:50 GMT+02:00 Martijn van Exel : > I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first > time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is obviously > no airport or airfield. Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just

[OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-11 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is obviously no airport or airfield. So I decided to collect all aerodrome nodes in the U.S that have not been edited since 2013 and make a MapRoulette