Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
A normal mapping trip for me is 1-2 hours and 200 photos. I use the camera in my phone (I got through too many compact digital cameras) which can nicely be used with one hand while cycling and a garmin GPS for the track log. A habit of taking a photo of the GPS' clock at the start of each trip/day is good so you can check they sync well in JOSM. On 2 August 2012 20:17, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Thanks all for your responses. I decided to enable geotagging for my photos and use OsmTracker for tracking (1 sec interval). Then I load the gpx file and the photos into JOSM where I put the POIs into OSM. Yesterday I marked in a bit more than 200 POIs and today might bring in rougly the same amount. So far, so good. - Svavar Kjarrval On 31/07/12 07:42, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? You don't have to get everything right down to the centimeter. I wouldn't worry too much about a little lost accuracy here and there. If you're using OsmTracker then I assume you are editing in JOSM after you get home where you can review your trace and correct for any obvious GPS drifting. I've used OsmTracker a fair amount, sometimes in a car, sometimes on foot. Note for car use: It geotags pictures at the time that you exit the camera and return to OsmTracker, not when the picture was actually taken. If you are traveling at 70 mph this can be a big difference :) The other good option is to use a standalone GPS device and a camera. Dedicated GPS devices tend to have better antennas than phones so you don't have to worry about losing accuracy as much. Then you can match the trace from the GPS device to your pictures based on timestamp in JOSM and do your editing there where you can also reference aerial imagery, assuming Bing has some in your area. Other Android apps are OsmAnd which lets you add POIs and upload them directly to OSM from your phone. But it only allows you to capture name and opening hours. There is also Vespucci which is pretty powerful but will also be slow to use on the go. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
Thanks all for your responses. I decided to enable geotagging for my photos and use OsmTracker for tracking (1 sec interval). Then I load the gpx file and the photos into JOSM where I put the POIs into OSM. Yesterday I marked in a bit more than 200 POIs and today might bring in rougly the same amount. So far, so good. - Svavar Kjarrval On 31/07/12 07:42, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? You don't have to get everything right down to the centimeter. I wouldn't worry too much about a little lost accuracy here and there. If you're using OsmTracker then I assume you are editing in JOSM after you get home where you can review your trace and correct for any obvious GPS drifting. I've used OsmTracker a fair amount, sometimes in a car, sometimes on foot. Note for car use: It geotags pictures at the time that you exit the camera and return to OsmTracker, not when the picture was actually taken. If you are traveling at 70 mph this can be a big difference :) The other good option is to use a standalone GPS device and a camera. Dedicated GPS devices tend to have better antennas than phones so you don't have to worry about losing accuracy as much. Then you can match the trace from the GPS device to your pictures based on timestamp in JOSM and do your editing there where you can also reference aerial imagery, assuming Bing has some in your area. Other Android apps are OsmAnd which lets you add POIs and upload them directly to OSM from your phone. But it only allows you to capture name and opening hours. There is also Vespucci which is pretty powerful but will also be slow to use on the go. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? You don't have to get everything right down to the centimeter. I wouldn't worry too much about a little lost accuracy here and there. If you're using OsmTracker then I assume you are editing in JOSM after you get home where you can review your trace and correct for any obvious GPS drifting. I've used OsmTracker a fair amount, sometimes in a car, sometimes on foot. Note for car use: It geotags pictures at the time that you exit the camera and return to OsmTracker, not when the picture was actually taken. If you are traveling at 70 mph this can be a big difference :) The other good option is to use a standalone GPS device and a camera. Dedicated GPS devices tend to have better antennas than phones so you don't have to worry about losing accuracy as much. Then you can match the trace from the GPS device to your pictures based on timestamp in JOSM and do your editing there where you can also reference aerial imagery, assuming Bing has some in your area. Other Android apps are OsmAnd which lets you add POIs and upload them directly to OSM from your phone. But it only allows you to capture name and opening hours. There is also Vespucci which is pretty powerful but will also be slow to use on the go. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
hi, regarding address mapping I use keypadmapper2, because on my phone osmpad has problems due to the low resolution.. regarding poi collecting I moved from osmtracker to geopaparazzi, it has notes, geotagged photos and vocal notes and uses mapsforge if you want to take notes more precisely. has also a osm specific mode to compile tag specific forms. regards, stefano Il giorno 31/lug/2012 01:26, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is ha scritto: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? With regards, Svavar Kjarrval ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
On 31/07/2012 00:23, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? JOSM is capable of synchronising any continuously recorded audio to a GPS track with waypoints. So if you can create a waypoint with a single click and then dictate the information, this shows up in JOSM as a button which when you press it jumps to that part of the audio. I don't kbnow what Android apps do that, but the point is JOSM is quite flexible at the desktop end. If you end up with a MP3, you can convert to WAV using Audacity or similar. I use a stand alone Olympus digital voice recorder - the audio doesn't have to be recorded on the same device as the GPS. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/AudioMapping David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
Am 31.07.2012 01:23, schrieb Svavar Kjarrval: What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? Please look at http://yapis.eu/?id=0lang=en - although it's web based mapping, it works fine on mobile devices. You can even upload EXIF-geotagged JPEGs and move a pointer then to fix the position. Cheers, -moenk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] POI collection methods
Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? With regards, Svavar Kjarrval signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
