Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-13 Thread Warin

I have not used a graphics tablet .. yet. They are popular with graphic artist 
I believe.

However I have used a fair few track balls, mice and touch pads.

Touch pads have gotten better over time, their buttons though do ware out 
rapidly!

Mice .. very much second choice to a good track ball.

The best track ball I have used was some 80 mm diameter, metal with a fair 
amount of inertia.
It had very fine control .. yet could be rapidly spun in any direction to get 
to far parts quickly (requiring a number of complete revolutions),
 rapidly stopped and fine control regained .. all by the use of a single finger 
or thumb. Unfortunately that was part of a system ... not a single computer and 
not obtainable with reasonable money.

So I use a logitech M570, the ball lacks the inertial and fine control of the 
better one.
But I find it acceptable, particularly if you suffer any form of repetitive 
strain injury to the wrists.
There are 5 'buttons' .. one of which is a wheel thingy too. Each function is 
customisable, possibly to each program/app in use.
The previous model was connected by a USB cable, unfortunately no longer 
available. The new model has a USB dongle that wirelessly connects to the track 
ball.


On 7/13/2016 8:00 PM, Tim Waters wrote:

I use a trusty Microsoft Intellimouse (although I do not customise the
buttons), but I'm really replying to an observation about a helpful
tip for mapping parties and workshops.

When putting on a mapping party / workshop where people bring their
own laptops, bring a bag of mice for participants to use! The Missing
Maps  / OSM London do this and it seems as if all of them get used.

(I also find it funny, how, several years ago at mapping parties we
used to pass around a bag of GPS units to map, now it's a bag of
mice!)

Back on topic, I'd be curious to hear if the assorted map teams in
companies like Mapbox etc use any specific hardware to point and map
and increase productivity...

Cheers,

Tim

On 13 July 2016 at 07:34, Oleksiy Muzalyev  wrote:

I also noticed that often moderately priced items are more reliable than
high-end expensive ones. Probably because they are more widespread, and
consequently deficiencies in design are noticed, reported, and corrected
faster. The Nexus Silent Mouse costs about 20 USD. I got so accustomed to a
soundless mouse that I cannot use normal mice anymore, and not only for
mapping, each click sounds to me as a gunshot. That is why I keep a spare
one ready. But I work sometimes in a library where it is very quiet.

I also received an e-mail where it is written that a graphics tablet is
being used for mapping by a correspondent's acquaintance; that a graphics
tablet is really precise, helps to map quicker, and that it is so convenient
that it is impossible to map without it. And that a graphics tablet must be
with a zoom control.

If such a graphics tablet increases productivity by say twenty or even ten
percent, then it makes sense to invest in it. Because our working time costs
much more in the long run. It would be interesting to hear from someone who
has got firsthand experience of using a specific model of a graphics tablet
for mapping.

Best regards,
Oleksiy


On 12/07/16 22:10, Andreas Vilén wrote:

Nothing fancy. Heavy osming has a tendency to break mice so I only use
cheap stuff.

Once I bought a fancy one but the precision was so bad I had to change
back to the standard Ms mouse...

/Andreas

Skickat från min iPhone


12 juli 2016 kl. 10:18 skrev Oleksiy Muzalyev
:

I use Nexus Silent Mouse SM-8500B [1]. This mouse does not produce a
"click" sound, though there is a tactile click. This type of soundless mouse
makes a difference while working in an OSM editor. I like SM-8500B. I own
three of them, including a spare one. It works fine on Mac and W10.

There are numerous innovative pointing devices available nowadays, -
graphics tablets, vertical mice, pencil mouse, etc. If you have a positive
experience employing an innovative pointing device design for mapping,
please, let me know.

[1] https://nexustek.us/mice/sm-8500

Best regards,

Oleksiy


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Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-13 Thread Tim Waters
I use a trusty Microsoft Intellimouse (although I do not customise the
buttons), but I'm really replying to an observation about a helpful
tip for mapping parties and workshops.

When putting on a mapping party / workshop where people bring their
own laptops, bring a bag of mice for participants to use! The Missing
Maps  / OSM London do this and it seems as if all of them get used.

(I also find it funny, how, several years ago at mapping parties we
used to pass around a bag of GPS units to map, now it's a bag of
mice!)

Back on topic, I'd be curious to hear if the assorted map teams in
companies like Mapbox etc use any specific hardware to point and map
and increase productivity...

Cheers,

Tim

On 13 July 2016 at 07:34, Oleksiy Muzalyev  wrote:
> I also noticed that often moderately priced items are more reliable than
> high-end expensive ones. Probably because they are more widespread, and
> consequently deficiencies in design are noticed, reported, and corrected
> faster. The Nexus Silent Mouse costs about 20 USD. I got so accustomed to a
> soundless mouse that I cannot use normal mice anymore, and not only for
> mapping, each click sounds to me as a gunshot. That is why I keep a spare
> one ready. But I work sometimes in a library where it is very quiet.
>
> I also received an e-mail where it is written that a graphics tablet is
> being used for mapping by a correspondent's acquaintance; that a graphics
> tablet is really precise, helps to map quicker, and that it is so convenient
> that it is impossible to map without it. And that a graphics tablet must be
> with a zoom control.
>
> If such a graphics tablet increases productivity by say twenty or even ten
> percent, then it makes sense to invest in it. Because our working time costs
> much more in the long run. It would be interesting to hear from someone who
> has got firsthand experience of using a specific model of a graphics tablet
> for mapping.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleksiy
>
>
> On 12/07/16 22:10, Andreas Vilén wrote:
>>
>> Nothing fancy. Heavy osming has a tendency to break mice so I only use
>> cheap stuff.
>>
>> Once I bought a fancy one but the precision was so bad I had to change
>> back to the standard Ms mouse...
>>
>> /Andreas
>>
>> Skickat från min iPhone
>>
>>> 12 juli 2016 kl. 10:18 skrev Oleksiy Muzalyev
>>> :
>>>
>>> I use Nexus Silent Mouse SM-8500B [1]. This mouse does not produce a
>>> "click" sound, though there is a tactile click. This type of soundless mouse
>>> makes a difference while working in an OSM editor. I like SM-8500B. I own
>>> three of them, including a spare one. It works fine on Mac and W10.
>>>
>>> There are numerous innovative pointing devices available nowadays, -
>>> graphics tablets, vertical mice, pencil mouse, etc. If you have a positive
>>> experience employing an innovative pointing device design for mapping,
>>> please, let me know.
>>>
>>> [1] https://nexustek.us/mice/sm-8500
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Oleksiy
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-13 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I also noticed that often moderately priced items are more reliable than 
high-end expensive ones. Probably because they are more widespread, and 
consequently deficiencies in design are noticed, reported, and corrected 
faster. The Nexus Silent Mouse costs about 20 USD. I got so accustomed 
to a soundless mouse that I cannot use normal mice anymore, and not only 
for mapping, each click sounds to me as a gunshot. That is why I keep a 
spare one ready. But I work sometimes in a library where it is very quiet.


I also received an e-mail where it is written that a graphics tablet is 
being used for mapping by a correspondent's acquaintance; that a 
graphics tablet is really precise, helps to map quicker, and that it is 
so convenient that it is impossible to map without it. And that a 
graphics tablet must be with a zoom control.


If such a graphics tablet increases productivity by say twenty or even 
ten percent, then it makes sense to invest in it. Because our working 
time costs much more in the long run. It would be interesting to hear 
from someone who has got firsthand experience of using a specific model 
of a graphics tablet for mapping.


Best regards,
Oleksiy

On 12/07/16 22:10, Andreas Vilén wrote:

Nothing fancy. Heavy osming has a tendency to break mice so I only use cheap 
stuff.

Once I bought a fancy one but the precision was so bad I had to change back to 
the standard Ms mouse...

/Andreas

Skickat från min iPhone


12 juli 2016 kl. 10:18 skrev Oleksiy Muzalyev :

I use Nexus Silent Mouse SM-8500B [1]. This mouse does not produce a "click" 
sound, though there is a tactile click. This type of soundless mouse makes a difference 
while working in an OSM editor. I like SM-8500B. I own three of them, including a spare 
one. It works fine on Mac and W10.

There are numerous innovative pointing devices available nowadays, - graphics 
tablets, vertical mice, pencil mouse, etc. If you have a positive experience 
employing an innovative pointing device design for mapping, please, let me know.

[1] https://nexustek.us/mice/sm-8500

Best regards,

Oleksiy


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Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-12 Thread Andreas Vilén
Nothing fancy. Heavy osming has a tendency to break mice so I only use cheap 
stuff.

Once I bought a fancy one but the precision was so bad I had to change back to 
the standard Ms mouse...

/Andreas

Skickat från min iPhone

> 12 juli 2016 kl. 10:18 skrev Oleksiy Muzalyev :
> 
> I use Nexus Silent Mouse SM-8500B [1]. This mouse does not produce a "click" 
> sound, though there is a tactile click. This type of soundless mouse makes a 
> difference while working in an OSM editor. I like SM-8500B. I own three of 
> them, including a spare one. It works fine on Mac and W10.
> 
> There are numerous innovative pointing devices available nowadays, - graphics 
> tablets, vertical mice, pencil mouse, etc. If you have a positive experience 
> employing an innovative pointing device design for mapping, please, let me 
> know.
> 
> [1] https://nexustek.us/mice/sm-8500
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Oleksiy
> 
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> Il giorno 12 lug 2016, alle ore 10:18, Oleksiy Muzalyev 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> I own three of them, including a spare one.


so you use two mice contemporarily? Wow.


Cheers,
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[OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-12 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I use Nexus Silent Mouse SM-8500B [1]. This mouse does not produce a 
"click" sound, though there is a tactile click. This type of soundless 
mouse makes a difference while working in an OSM editor. I like 
SM-8500B. I own three of them, including a spare one. It works fine on 
Mac and W10.


There are numerous innovative pointing devices available nowadays, - 
graphics tablets, vertical mice, pencil mouse, etc. If you have a 
positive experience employing an innovative pointing device design for 
mapping, please, let me know.


[1] https://nexustek.us/mice/sm-8500

Best regards,

Oleksiy


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