Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-24 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:29:10 + Graham Jones grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote: You are both right. RF absorption is a combination of amount of material and its properties. I think the issue with trains is limited to newer ones with special windows (I think they are conductive - some

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Jones
You are both right. RF absorption is a combination of amount of material and its properties. I think the issue with trains is limited to newer ones with special windows (I think they are conductive - some cars have them too). The combination of shielding from the roof and windows makes it

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor barrier in the attic. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: On 17 February 2010 01:40, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Feb 2010, at 9:46 , Dave F. wrote: John Smith wrote: On 17 February 2010 01:40, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Dave F. Verzonden: dinsdag 16 februari 2010 18:46 Aan: John Smith CC: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation John Smith wrote: On 17 February 2010 01:40

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Liz
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Dave F. wrote: It has little to do with the material it's made of, it's all about how much mass an object has, the more mass the more it will absorb RF. Is this correct? I assumed the reason I had trouble getting reception on board trains because of what their

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hello everyone, On Mar 16 Feb 2010, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: No it ain't correct. Satellite signals are blocked by conductive materials such as metals, and to a limited extend by materials containing humidity (= limited conductivity) such as leaves and possibly