[talk-au] Webpage layout

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
I've been toying with some more javascript to do useful things. The map page is in a iframe of the main page, and now they both interact with each other. If you are at a suitable zoom level (z13-18) an edit tab will appear which will open the potlatch screen in the main section of the page. You

Re: [talk-au] long distance bus route

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > but we need a little more help - i'm not going to find all > the stops on this > run > https://www.vline.com.au/pdf/newtimetables/adelaide-sydney.pdf > so how do I mark the one and only stop so far? > (i expect the adelaide terminus is mapped) The b

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, James Livingston wrote: > I'm sure there are *lots* of places with the same name, a > couple more  I was hoping to make it easy for people so they don't need to enter the state, but there isn't enough info in the OSM database to distinguish between them, and I guess I'll

Re: [talk-au] long distance bus route

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Liz wrote: > > this is going to need a bit of > > organisation and collaboration more than normal > > I was putting in stuff from Lameroo last night and I had > > photographed a bus > > stop on the Albury to Adelaide route > > I can't mak

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au/name_search > gives 28 results Only 2 are localities, the rest are boundaries etc. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listin

Re: [talk-au] long distance bus route

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Liz wrote: > this is going to need a bit of > organisation and collaboration more than normal > I was putting in stuff from Lameroo last night and I had > photographed a bus > stop on the Albury to Adelaide route > I can't make a relation yet for this bus route as I have > o

[talk-au] long distance bus route

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
this is going to need a bit of organisation and collaboration more than normal I was putting in stuff from Lameroo last night and I had photographed a bus stop on the Albury to Adelaide route I can't make a relation yet for this bus route as I have one bus stop on it so has anyone any suggestions

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread James Livingston
On 08/08/2009, at 11:58 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:39:38 + (GMT) > John Smith wrote: > >> This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth >> which is marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or >> villiages or ... with the same names in diff

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > well for Griffith, it would have to be Griffith NSW, not > > that fake one in the > > ACT > > Someone should get an award for this, not only is there 3 places named > Carrington in Australia, but 2 of them are in

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread James Livingston
On 08/08/2009, at 6:51 PM, John Smith wrote: > --- On Sat, 8/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au > wrote: >> I'd >> say that the best solution would be >> tourism=picnic_site;shelter/cover/rainproof=yes. The reason >> being that it's not just a shelter, it's a picnic >> site which happens to be under c

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > well for Griffith, it would have to be Griffith NSW, not > that fake one in the > ACT Someone should get an award for this, not only is there 3 places named Carrington in Australia, but 2 of them are in NSW. Postcodes 2294 and 2324 ___

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, j...@talk21.com wrote: > At the moment I'm not trying to define anything. But a shared path that's > frequently used by cyclists means it's used as a cycleway. > > And that';s worth knowing. > > John > > --- Roy Wallace wrote: > Are you suggesting that a cycleway should be d

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
At  the moment I'm not trying to define anything.  But a shared path that's frequently used by cyclists means it's used as a cycleway. And that';s worth knowing. John ---  Roy Wallace wrote: Are you suggesting that a cycleway should be defined as "the path that cyclists usually use"?

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > > There are 3 Maryboroughs > > More than one Northbridge > > For the purpose of a search, if the state was omitted which would be the > best one to show? > > The example I gave before was Perth, WA and Perth, Tas, if someone typed in > Perth they most likely

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Liz wrote: > There are 3 Maryboroughs > More than one Northbridge For the purpose of a search, if the state was omitted which would be the best one to show? The example I gave before was Perth, WA and Perth, Tas, if someone typed in Perth they most likely meant the one in

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Evan Sebire
The original post was to try and align the Australian guidelines page more with the main wiki page in relation to a path http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=cycleway The example at the bottom suggests for a shared path, highway=path ...etc... I think this should be the recommendation f

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:08 AM, wrote: > When new to an area, what would lead me to take one path over several > alternatives. > > I don't really want to ride them all before I know which one cyclists > usually use. Are you suggesting that a cycleway should be defined as "the path that cyclists u

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:53 AM, wrote: > > For width, use width=*. > That ain't going to happen - far too much effort involved to do that > properly everywhere on every shared path. If you can propose something easier that's still verifiable, I'll be convinced. __

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, wrote: > Think of the situation with roads, and the multitude of different tags > available to show how important the road is. > > We only need two (or maybe three at most) to say whether a shared path is a > good cycling path.  And then a few guidelines so that non

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth which is > marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or villiages or ... with > the same names in different states? or even same state I guess... There are 3 Maryboroughs More than on

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:50 AM, wrote: > With all footpaths being shared paths here in the ACT, what makes a good > cycling path is sometimes difficult to pin down. If the meaning of a tag is "difficult to pin down", IMHO it is probably not verifiable and therefore probably not a good tag to be u

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Hugh Barnes wrote: > Balls to OSM telling you what a table is for. lots of things have been decided by people with just_not_enough_imagination and results in Aussies s***stirring on the main talk list, just trying to broaden their horizons :-) :-) __

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
When new to an area, what would lead me to take one path over several alternatives. I don't really want to ride them all before I know which one cyclists usually use. John --- Roy Wallace wrote: highway=path; bicycle=designated; foot=yes. Why isn't that a good idea? All it does is take the g

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
Think of the situation with roads, and the multitude of different tags available to show how important the road is. We only need two (or maybe three at most) to say whether a shared path is a good cycling path.  And then a few guidelines so that non-cycling mappers can make an educated stab at

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
That ain't going to happen - far too much effort involved to do that properly everywhere on every shared path. John --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Roy Wallace wrote: For width, use width=*. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
With all footpaths being shared paths here in the ACT, what makes a good cycling path is sometimes difficult to pin down. More often than not it's the width.  It's good to be able to pass a nervous cyclist coming the other way without them feeling the need to get off the path.  It's also good t

Re: [talk-au] Proposed changes for the Australian tagging guidelines.

2009-08-08 Thread Peter Ross
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Evan Sebire wrote: >> Bush walking paths should also be tagged as path not footway, except for >> National parks were bicycles / horses are typically banned. > > I think these should still be tagged as path, with a

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Ross Scanlon wrote: > Georgetown > > Qld, SA and NSW. The one in NSW is a suburb the other 2 are small towns, both look like they could do with some more mapping. Also Gladston, SA, Tas and NSW. Yet Gladstone in QLD doesn't show up, although I'm currently searching based

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:39:38 + (GMT) John Smith wrote: > This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth which is > marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or villiages or ... with > the same names in different states? or even same state I guess... Georgetown

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
I also started logging searches, that way common spelling mistakes can be dealt with as well. I'm also thinking if they don't supply the street type, it can go through half a dozen or a dozen common street postfixes and see if anything matches that way too. Also I could probably make state op

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Ross Scanlon wrote: > I think you just need to wild card front and back on the > road search query to cover it, sould not need to for the > city and state. I fixed it by adding wildcards, I was umm'ing and arr'ing if I should do it when I was coding it. __

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:53:41 +1000 Ashley Kyd wrote: > Hi all, > > I was having a conversation the other day when the purpose of > amenity=shelter was brought into question. > > http://barstool.ash.ms/photos/07082009-shelter.jpg > > Above is a photo I took while out the other day. It's a shelt

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:42:56 + (GMT) John Smith wrote: > > I've been looking for some kind of simple search that can be added to the map > page, so far I haven't found anything open source or something I can easily > hack into a website so I've cooked up a proof of concept search that just

[talk-au] Anyone near Blacktown in Sydney?

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
Just noticed there is 3 or 4 suburbs near the Blacktown area that are marked highway=road http://maps.bigtincan.com/map.php?zoom=14&lat=-33.74831&lon=150.92984&layers=B ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.o

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Roy Wallace wrote: > In that case you would also often find yourself using > bbq=yes. If you lump bbq in with the covered area you then have people tagging it as fuel=wood and does that mean we can rip hunks off the sheltered area to put in the bbq? :)

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > I'd > say that the best solution would be > tourism=picnic_site;shelter/cover/rainproof=yes. The reason > being that it's not just a shelter, it's a picnic > site which happens to be under cover. I suggested: tourism=picnic_site cover=yes

[talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
I've been looking for some kind of simple search that can be added to the map page, so far I haven't found anything open source or something I can easily hack into a website so I've cooked up a proof of concept search that just does streets/towns and at this stage opens up on the OSM site and d

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread b . schulz . 10
Yeah, it just seems more logical as "picnic_site" is a term which describes a large area (if anything it would probably be better suited to an area than a node in most cases) whereas bbq, bench and shelter are all discreet objects. But saying that I can't really see any major drawbacks to what's

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM, wrote: > I'd say that the best solution would be > tourism=picnic_site;shelter/cover/rainproof=yes. The reason being that it's > not just a shelter, it's a picnic site which happens to be under cover. In that case you would also often find yourself using bbq=yes.

Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-08 Thread b . schulz . 10
Awesome job on this one: http://barstool.ash.ms/osm/posters/2009-08-09/openstreetmap-osm-australia-austsralia.png :doublethumsup: - Original Message - From: Ashley Kyd Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:19 pm Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org > Actually

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'd say that the best solution would be tourism=picnic_site;shelter/cover/rainproof=yes. The reason being that it's not just a shelter, it's a picnic site which happens to be under cover. -Brent - Original Message - From: Ashley Kyd Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 10:54 am Subject: [tal