[talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-09-26 Thread Brendan Morley
Hello Aussie OSMers, Those recently at the last OSM South Brisbane meetup may remember I was going to get onto our Department of Natural Resources people to see when they were going to release their datasets under a GILF (CC-BY compatible) licence. It turns out there's been a

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:02:50 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/26 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: I don't think that the ABS boundaries change if the roads change. It'd be worth investigating, especially if other govt bodies can benefit from it and as a result we

Re: [talk-au] Graphical view of postcodes

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
I tried to import the bigger areas so the map didn't look so blank, and so it looks a little prettier now :) http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=4ll=-32.470,131.472layer=00B00FF Having a graphical view of things has helped to show up errors with data missing from the database, I'm waiting for the

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:35:05 +1000 terryc ter...@woa.com.au wrote: Ross Scanlon wrote: We should not just automatically change the coastline to the ABS data without at least looking at the sat imagery as well. What exactly will that tell you? I would expect that you need to find out

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: This gives us some basic specs to figure out what we'd need either to build or buy one, combined with a HD camera and low enough to the ground we wouldn't need to worry about clouds etc. For comparison, you really should compare

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-26 Thread terryc
Ross Scanlon wrote: We should not just automatically change the coastline to the ABS data without at least looking at the sat imagery as well. What exactly will that tell you? I would expect that you need to find out what data the ABS coastline is based on. From memory, the offical coastline

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-26 Thread Jim Croft
I had never really thought of this before, but land traveller and mariner have quite different concepts of what it means to reach 'the coast'. For the former it is when you get your feet wet, for the latter it is when you run into something. And there are places where there is quite a gap

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-09-26 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. On the issue of land parcels, does OSM support this (i.e. with useful information to do things like give the parcel an address)? I know you can relate a point to a street, and attach the street number to the point. Can you attach a number to an area, and relate it to a street? Possibly yes,

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread terryc
John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to wikipedia at $12/sq km comes out at Can you explain the $12/sqkms. (That 1788 sqkms sounds awfully small to me, but anyway) about $21,000 which is only a small area of NSW let alone Australia. Also something just occurred to me, the

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to wikipedia at $12/sq km comes out at Can you explain the $12/sqkms. Sat imagery with a non-profit discount is about US$12/sq km (That 1788 sqkms sounds awfully small to me, but anyway) I looked again

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 Babstar debian-l...@blueturtles.com: One thing to consider is that the photography won't actually need to cover the *entire* state.  Given the way most rural towns work, it would just need the point-to-point connections to cover the important roads between towns as well as the towns

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread Jim Croft
$150 gives you a feed from space... ;) http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/21/reaching-near-space-for-less-than-150/ jim On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:17 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
From this website: http://www.skyshipsremote.com/airships.htm UK based company says in the UK there is an altitude limitation of 400ft (~130m) for UAV aircraft, not sure if the same is true in Australia though. If it is we can probably still cope with this via fish eye lenses like the

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: Applicable AU rules: http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_91039 Same reg as the UK, maximum operating ceiling of 400ft for UAV aircraft. Tethered balloons (and kites) are allowed up to 500ft... Apart from any restricted air

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-26 Thread terryc
John Smith wrote: 2009/9/27 Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com: I don't think we need to worry about going back to the ABS too much. That isn't the point, we want govt's to use us for their data repository, so we need data how they want/need it. Just my 2c, but it isn't going to happen on

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: The problem is that everything the government says and does has legal implications. so the information they publish has to be as accurate as possible, hint millimetre acccuracy. ABS postcode boundaries are out by 1+ km in some places so I think it depends on