Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Ben Kelley
I can't help wondering if this chain got off the original topic at some point... On 8 February 2010 15:18, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Seems that was what was being suggested, or more to the point, don't tag incorrectly for the navigator, eg using the name field incorrectly to

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 20:25 +1100, Ben Kelley wrote: I can't help wondering if this chain got off the original topic at some point... The topic was someone using OSM maps on his GPS during a visit to Canberra, and having difficulty finding a service station that would take his wallet full of

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 20:32, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: The topic was someone using OSM maps on his GPS during a visit to Canberra, and having difficulty finding a service station that would take his wallet full of fuel discount vouchers. Well Coles Express locations exist now in

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Colless
That would have to go into a supplementary field that appears on the GPS. I tried doing this for my local servos. The only ones that have any supplementary info are the BP servos. (On the Etrex, I can get the info by "clicking" on the selected servo). The BP's just show the phone number. I

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Colless
This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx Anyone care to add it to the database? That one's outside my skills at this stage. Richard John Smith wrote: On 8 February 2010 20:32, David Murn

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 21:48, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx Ta, didn't see that page, I emailed Woolworths Petrol earlier for the information

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
W here we go again, anyone else want to take a stab at what to tag things :) Eftpos Avail,Workshop Avail,Car Wash Avail,Disabled Toilets Avail,ATM Avail,BBQ Gas Avail,Truckstop Facility Avail,Starcash Avail, ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I agree that the interface on could be better on http://www.osmfuel.org/ seems strange to me why they use google maps as background!? But that is definitely off-topic! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
Craig Feuerherdt wrote: I agree that the interface on could be better on http://www.osmfuel.org/ seems strange to me why they use google maps as background!? But that is definitely off-topic! I'm definitely seeing an OSM map, with detail I've added recently. But service station sites are a

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread Liz
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: I agree that the interface on could be better on http://www.osmfuel.org/ seems strange to me why they use google maps as background!? But that is definitely off-topic! It's OSM map but is using the Google API to search the database rather than

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 05:09, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I'm definitely seeing an OSM map, with detail I've added recently. The powered by Google image is probably confusing people, but it looks like mapnik produced tiles to me. But service station sites are a different matter. Those I

[talk-au] Caltex locations

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
The list of caltex locations, among what you'd expect also includes some Ampol, BP and Mobil locations, with a couple of Gas 'n Go, IFS and Bogas thrown in. http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/caltex.osm.bz2 Judging by a couple of locations I checked against Nearmap imagery they seem to be

[talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
SteveC just did a webcast on a new map rendering Matt has come up with to show duplicate nodes: http://www.opengeodata.org/2010/02/08/screencast-on-how-to-remove-duplicate-node-in-openstreetmap/ What he didn't bother to put in the post was the web address:

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: I've cc'd the contact email on this email, it doesn't look like the locations update very often or at all to me either. There should be a lot more locations now that some bulk imports have occurred. I e-mailed them yesterday, asking if/how we could add more fuel types, like

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 08:40, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I e-mailed them yesterday, asking if/how we could add more fuel types, like e10. Just click on the location a couple of times and there is a list box where you can add fuel types. ___

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: Just click on the location a couple of times and there is a list box where you can add fuel types. Maybe I'm missing something, but there's ethanol and e85. No e10, and no way I can see to add it. I've already added octane_91 to the servos in my area. John H

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread Liz
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: SteveC just did a webcast on a new map rendering Matt has come up with to show duplicate nodes: http://www.opengeodata.org/2010/02/08/screencast-on-how-to-remove-duplicate -node-in-openstreetmap/ What he didn't bother to put in the post was the web

[talk-au] OSM Fuel

2010-02-08 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
The underlying map in OSM Fuel is definitely Google. Compare http://www.osmfuel.org/?lat=-36.73lon=144.29 with the same area in OSM - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.7336lon=144.2994zoom=13 I agree the servo data isn't up-to-date. Reading the about page it sounds like it is simply about

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 22:48 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx Anyone care to add it to the database? That one's outside my skills at this stage. Thats

Re: [talk-au] OSM Fuel

2010-02-08 Thread Liz
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: The underlying map in OSM Fuel is definitely Google. not at my place ! I recognise my landuse areas http://www.osmfuel.org/enter then entered griffith,new south wales, australia and what i see is quite different to your web page

Re: [talk-au] OSM Fuel

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
Craig Feuerherdt wrote: The underlying map in OSM Fuel is definitely Google. Compare http://www.osmfuel.org/?lat=-36.73lon=144.29 http://www.osmfuel.org/?lat=-36.73lon=144.29 with the same area in OSM - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.7336lon=144.2994zoom=13

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:17, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but there's ethanol and e85. No e10, and no way I can see to add it. I was guessing ethanol = e10 I've already added octane_91 to the servos in my area. I'm not sure that adding information there

Re: [talk-au] OSM Fuel

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:22, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: The underlying map in OSM Fuel is definitely Google. Compare http://www.osmfuel.org/?lat=-36.73lon=144.29 with the same area in The static image seems to be gMaps, but the dynamic map seems to be OSM...

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:21, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: just done a big pile in western nsw now running into someone else doing the same so i've quit i'm not sure how fast the dupes site is going to be updated If it's feeding from the main OSM database server it will probably be real time.

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
A duplicated node I fixed earlier is no longer showing... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: I was guessing ethanol = e10 I take ethanol as meaning e100 (like what's available in Brazil). I'm not sure that adding information there gets uploaded back to OSM if they don't keep their database of locations updated. I assumed it doesn't. But adding octane_91 (which is

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 10:48 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 9 February 2010 10:37, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Thats probably a good thing. 'skills' also includes knowing how the OSM licence works, and clicking on the 'terms of use' link on the page you linked... Except

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:56, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I take ethanol as meaning e100 (like what's available in Brazil). It doesn't explicitly state one way or the other on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fuel Also it's against the laws of physics to get e100, you need

[talk-au] Fwd: Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Adolf Hohl riceornoo...@googlemail.com Date: 9 February 2010 11:42 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Hi John, you are right. I was missing good docu by that time. data is imported

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On 2/9/10, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 10:48 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 9 February 2010 10:37, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Thats probably a good thing. 'skills' also includes knowing how the OSM licence works, and clicking on the 'terms

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 12:03, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: What if theyve put an easter-egg into that 'database of fact'? Suddenly they can prove you took their entire dataset. Or they can just refer to this publically accessable email discussion. That only proves you may have

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: On 9 February 2010 10:56, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I take ethanol as meaning e100 (like what's available in Brazil). It doesn't explicitly state one way or the other on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fuel Also it's against the laws of

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 13:25, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: As a term for automotive fuel, e100 means that there's no petroleum/gasoline whatsoever in the mix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures Similarly, I take biodiesel to mean b100, as is sold at at least one

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: As per a previous email, the author has offered to send me a copy of his code, not sure that I'll be able to do much with it since it's in python, but ya never know. Well I've got half-way through Learning Python by Mark Lutz since I retired. Ideally the fuels shown

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Overall a very useful tool for data fixing. Found some imported rural places (max 6) all occupying one place. I spread them out a little and now they are simply very close. They all need survey or local knowledge. Next, duplicated nodes where the editor (probably Potlatch) didn't join the new