Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, I'd suggest the easiest solution is just to change the wiki. Ian. On 1 September 2016 at 09:37, Nick Hocking wrote: > "My suggestion is that the map data is the best place to store that > information." > > Actually - the wiki page is very specific on this. > >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
When I said that Gosmore (YourNavgation) website had done something stupid, I was wrong. It was the data that was incorrect. I have fixed the data to make the acute angle , where the two carriageways meet up, far more acute (which agrees with the imagery. Once the Yournavigation site updates

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Phillip and Kerrie
If the wiki says no then I withdraw my suggestion. Don't want to ruffle too many feathers. Sorry for not having read the mapping guidelines. On 1 Sep 2016 9:38 AM, "Nick Hocking" wrote: > "My suggestion is that the map data is the best place to store that > information."

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
"My suggestion is that the map data is the best place to store that information." Actually - the wiki page is very specific on this. "When a particular turn restriction is *the default* for a given jurisdiction *and* is *not signed* *don't map them*. It is much better to ensure that routing

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Phillip and Kerrie
I think that the idea that car navigation is for visitors would mean that it was very important that the routes that get displayed know about local custom. My suggestion is that the map data is the best place to store that information. On 31 Aug 2016 11:42 PM, "Nick Hocking"

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
"I'm assuming you mean the Intersection with Lane Cove Rd. If so it's not permitted to make a u-turn here anyway, as there is no sign permitting u-turns at the traffic signals. So I'd not add it as a restriction as anyone driving there should know that they can not make a u-turn there." Ok -

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
"I'm assuming you mean the Intersection with Lane Cove Rd." No - the intersection with Chiltern Street although it looks as though someone has just added it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Ross
I'm assuming you mean the Intersection with Lane Cove Rd. If so it's not permitted to make a u-turn here anyway, as there is no sign permitting u-turns at the traffic signals. So I'd not add it as a restriction as anyone driving there should know that they can not make a u-turn there.

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 31/08/16 21:23, Leon Kernan wrote: > After all that, i'd only tag a turn restriction if there is a sign > advising such. That's a nice theory but it does mean that there is no way to tell if you are allowed to drive from one incoming way to another outgoing way. Turn restrictions are,

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Leon Kernan
Sorry, scratch the oneways, i'm half asleep :-) On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Leon Kernan wrote: > I'd fix the fact the oneways are pointed in the wrong direction, change > trunk to trunk_link and add lanes=1. > I'm pretty sure noname is a no no these days as well. > >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Leon Kernan
I'd fix the fact the oneways are pointed in the wrong direction, change trunk to trunk_link and add lanes=1. I'm pretty sure noname is a no no these days as well. After all that, i'd only tag a turn restriction if there is a sign advising such. On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Nick Hocking

[talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
What do people think about the intersection at -33.6793339 151.264475 The road geometry clearly indicates that there is no way you can do a turn from Moan Vale Road Eastbound back down Mona Vale Road Westbound, yet there are no signs saying so and I believe that most routers would suggest

Re: [talk-au] Secondary roads are of primary importance.

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
Actually. primary roads are of equal need for fixing. Maybe only trunk and motorways are reasonably accurate routing wise. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Secondary roads are of primary importance.

2016-08-31 Thread Edoardo Neerhut
Dashcam footage can also be uploaded to Mapillary as long as you have an accompanying GPS track. Street signs that reveal turn restrictions an speed limits can the be identified automatically in many instances. The detections then appear in both iD and JOSM. Action cameras and smartphones can be

[talk-au] Secondary roads are of primary importance.

2016-08-31 Thread Nick Hocking
Secondary roads often have high speed limits and are connected to low speed residential roads. This can cause issues with cars slowing in front of fast moving cars and cars crossing in front of traffic. For this reason there are many intersections on secondary roads that have no-u-turn or