Warin, I agree with you in theory. I almost never camp at a site without
a toilet because such camp sites are sometimes in a disgusting state.
However, when mapping, we should not apply our particular moral beliefs,
fact is lots of people do stay at such sites. If its legal and practical
to do so, we should so map. We should not be trying to enforce our
beliefs via OSM.
Again, I will remind you that the distinction between tents, camper
trailers, campers, caravans, mobile homes is one of degree. Pick any two
spots on that spectrum and I will show you a rig that can fit between them.
(Sorry I have been out of this discussion for some time, we are away
camping, down the deep southwest of Tasmania there is very little
communications ....)
David
On 02/05/17 10:59, Warin wrote:
The essential difference between these 'camping' activities is the
provision of a self contained toilet. (A shower is then secondary.)
Where there is no self contained toilet the occupants then seek local
relief and that can lead to problems. So that is a mapping issue for me.
One of the reasons why I prefer not to be directed to a 'rest area'
for a tent site, those without a toilet tend not to appeal.
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Some of the camper trailers are very well equipped .. they would need
to be from the prices they charge.
I'd tend to lump them with caravans - they tow behind the vehicle.
Much like lumping campervans with motorhomes?
On 02-May-17 08:59 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
I don't really think we'd have to differentiate between motorhomes &
campervans, because really, they are the same concept, just different
sizes, but crrying on from that, & just to throw another level of
complication in :-), where do camper trailers come into things.
For clarification for those who may not be into camping, a camper
trailer is effectively a tent mounted on top of a normal box trailer,
that then folds out for use.
Under that list, would they be a tent or a caravan? For a short stop
they don't usually need to be pegged down as a tent has to be, but
they're also not just a pull up, open the door & that's it caravan?
Graeme
On 30 April 2017 at 10:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com
<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have raised this on the tagging list to get more people
involved .. on a European perspective they distinguish motorhomes
from caravans too ..
It looks like;
camping=yes (for all)
camping:caravan=yes/no
camping:tent=yes/no
camping:motorhome=yes/no
is the way to go?
I hesitate to add campervan to that list but I suppose it should
be added too..
I can see them asking what the difference is to motorhome (what
they are built from (bus/truck for motorhome, van for campervan)
size and toilet/shower are ones I would nominate).
On 26-Apr-17 06:17 PM, Warin wrote:
We'll get there. Crossed posts. No rush.
highway=rest_area
rest_area:camping=caravan ?
My previous post had :conditional ... and that is wrong.
I don't know about applying camp_site tags to rest areas,
maybe. Will think on it.
On 26-Apr-17 05:29 PM, David Bannon wrote:
Hmm, at risk of answering my own question, there is a
key, camp_site=* that is intended to apply to
tourism=camp_site. Could you apply it to a rest area as
well ?
highway=rest_area
camp_site=basic
caravan=yes
tent=no
David
On 26/04/17 17:17, David Bannon wrote:
On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote:
Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to
'highway=rest_area' with 'caravan=yes'.
Just what will that mean then ? That a caravan can
pull into the rest area ? We will loose the
information that camping is, at least primafacie
allowed/practical ?
I don't think thats a good solution, if you then
apply it to other states, a disaster (NSW notoriously
anti "free camping").
David
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