Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

2023-05-25 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, I also find streams useful to indicate the surrounding ground is downhill towards them. Being at the bottom of a valley it is also fairly obvious when you encounter one in person. They are often hard to map from aerial imagery as they may hidden by tree cover. This is one reason why

Re: [talk-au] OSM Wiki Cleanup Update: 6th Tagging Guidelines Page ready

2022-06-28 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi Dian, The AWTGS page referenced isn't much use. As a trail user it doesn't tell me if 1 is easy or hard. Searching for other references I found https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/safety/bushwalking-safety/australian-walking-track-grading-system

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria and other edits edits

2022-05-16 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi Tony, On 16/5/22 07:00, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Kim Can I please clarify "using highway=cycleway should only be used where there are signs allowing"? That is how I've always used it in urban areas. Does this apply to just sidewalks (US sidewalk, UK pavement, AU footpath) or

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria and other edits edits

2022-05-15 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Responses below. On 15/5/22 13:56, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Sebastian and list Today I did a number of edits relating to whether a lack of bicycle signage, on its own, is sufficient grounds to remove bicycle=yes/designated or cycleway. Most of my edits though relate to cases where

Re: [talk-au] Wiki Clean Up Progress Update

2022-04-18 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi Dian, Some questions and comments. Are all toll roads highway=motorway? All the ones I know in Victoria are. If so, we should add tollways to the description of highway=motorway "Construction and maintenance of paved roads in profoundly remote areas is both practical and

Re: [talk-au] "Don't split ways if there is no physical separation"

2022-03-04 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
To add to the ambiguity of what physically separate means I'll highlight the roudabout joining Wonga Road and Oban Road: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-37.79463/145.24154 Here the separation between lanes is similar to a long thin speed hump - you can drive over it, but it is a

Re: [talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

2022-02-02 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 3/2/22 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 22:18, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: update a short section of road there with access=no. =no or =private, because work crews can still drive in there to do repairs? Either would be fine as far as I'm concerned. Both

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-02 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, On 3/2/22 09:34, Phil Wyatt wrote: …. and then work on getting the def:syntax incorporated as defaults into the database somehow? That would be good, but I'm not sure how to do it. One place to start would be to mention on

Re: [talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

2022-02-02 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
What I'll often do is map what I can verify in person and is useful to others, even if it isn't complete. In this situation, the practical use to most others is that the road should no longer be routeable for through trips. If you know one end of the closure then update a short section of

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-02 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 2/2/22 21:45, Phil Wyatt wrote: Is there somewhere to view those defaults for Tasmania? I assume its not usually editable by mappers? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2369652 Specifically the tag: def:highway=footway;access:bicycle = yes While it appears to be editable just

Re: [talk-au] Consistent addr:state format?

2022-01-29 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, Is there any advantage to tagging addresses with the state when the state is already well defined in OSM and the state for a given address location can be obtained from existing map data? I'm not criticising Justin's work - improved consistency is good. I'm asking the open ended

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-26 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 26/11/21 9:09 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 26/11/21 18:48, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: Hi, The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along the railway. So they are pole reference numbers

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-26 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
community, informing of your plan and what steps you've taken is enough in my opinion. I would ask if you could share more information about the permission you obtained? So long as you have sufficient rights to submit the data under the OSM contributor terms. On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:56, K

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
t the permission you obtained? So long as you have sufficient rights to submit the data under the OSM contributor terms. On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:56, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Hi, I have a list of 200 emergency marker

[talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations along 22km of the Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by the railway with permission to include them in OSM. I've been reading through https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import - most of which appears to be geared toward

Re: [talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road access

2021-10-23 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
I've updated the intersection to a similar layout to that suggested by Thorsten. I have a passing familiarity with the area. It looks like Ewan has just suggested a similar layout. While making that edit I noticed Burwood Highway is tagged with foot=yes. My first response was that's wrong as

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 8/10/21 2:17 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:22, EON4wd > wrote: Question, How can I identify this person so that I can contact them to be able to find out what they are thinking? If you're using the default iD editor, select a feature,

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-05 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi Adam, On 5/10/21 10:23 am, Adam Horan wrote: Hi Kim, highway = pedestrian is for pedestrianised roads/areas rather then footpaths/sidewalks/pavements for those I think the current tag is highway=footway. I only included highway=pedestrian as it is part of

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-04 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi Andrew and list, How do we go about formalising these decisions? Is there a vote process, or does someone take it upon themselves to document in the wiki any consensus we reach on this list? We should document in the wiki when to add bicycle= and foot= tags which duplicate the default

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-02 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 3/10/21 9:13 am, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote: In my view, some of the data in OSM is incorrect as a footpath will some times have permission bicycle=yes which is incorrect. The majority of the time allowed access will have bicycle=unspecified (not defined)which I think is fine. The

Re: [talk-au] Shared driveways

2021-09-24 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
The wiki suggests you should use the addr tags instead: addr:street=Jardine Road addr:housenumber=32 addr:unit=a/b/c or leave off for common driveway I have tried this in the past, but validation tools complained. I'm not sure if it is acceptable to set an address on a driveway. On 24/9/21

Re: [talk-au] Another Melbourne intersection for review

2021-09-22 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.794368611389=145.24075834056=17=1146194895843889=photo <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.794368611389=145.24075834056=17=1146194895843889=photo> Regards, Kim On 21/9/21 6:54 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/9/21 9:04 pm, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: Andrew, a

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

2021-09-22 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, I'd agree with Tony here. Personally I simply tag a footpath with highway=footway. The implication (in Victoria) is that adult bicycles are not permitted. I don't see the benefit of explicitly tagging with foot=yes and bicycle=no. Tagging also ignores the subtly of who is allowed to ride

Re: [talk-au] Another Melbourne intersection for review

2021-09-18 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, When should separate ways be drawn, and when should lane tags be used on a single way? In this intersection the asphalt is continuous between parallel lanes, but they are separated by long rubber strips with a cross section about 20cm wide and 10cm high - not something a router should

Re: [talk-au] Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or Service?

2021-07-28 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
In Firefox type in the address about:performance to see which Firefox tabs are using the most CPU ("Energy Impact") and memory. Closing the top tabs in this list can speed Firefox up. On 28/7/21 5:59 pm, Bob Cameron wrote: Task Manager (ctrl-alt-del and select) will show process/ram hogs.

Re: [talk-au] Tags for bike tail you are not allowed to ride on?

2021-06-20 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
at 18:35, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Hi, What is an appropriate set of tags for a bike path you aren't allowed to ride on? Specifically https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25313938 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25313938&g