Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Hey Ben and others, Yep, spot on, rendering hints but only related to zoom levels. I realise that it's matter of opinion what roads to be rendered at what levels etc and why rendering hints are not considered factual data and not preferred. Changing the road classification is an option but are

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel O'Connor
What do you guys think? It's non trivial to do it this way, but: - Define a relationship between zoom level and number of ways/nodes within the bounding box - Sort the ways in a weighted fashion - roads first, land boundaries second, etc - Zoom level max, with 10 nodes to

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Ben Kelley
You can change how mapnik renders by defining different styles for different zooms. Essentially with render hints you are saying that you would like this way to look like a different type of way. If this does not map to some verifiable attribute of the way then it becomes your preference.

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Hi John, Why would it be limited to just 1 purpose? Any rendering engine can take advantage of these hints? Li. On 01/11/2012, at 5:11 PM, John Smith wrote: On 1 November 2012 15:01, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think? what you are really after is a custom

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Thanks for the suggestions, I couldn't agree more for static rendering. However this approach has some massive draw backs in terms of performance. Any suggestions in this region? Li. On 01/11/2012, at 5:13 PM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: What do you guys think? It's non trivial to do it this

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Importance is of most interest. In regional areas where density is much lower, rendering lower class roads earlier on in the zoom level would improve the usability of the map much more. Li. On 01/11/2012, at 5:32 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: You can change how mapnik renders by defining different

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Hi John, Why would it be limited to just 1 purpose? Any rendering engine can take advantage of these hints? On 01/11/2012, at 5:11 PM, John Smith wrote: On 1 November 2012 15:01, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think? what you are really after is a custom rendering

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Thanks for the suggestions, I couldn't agree more for static rendering. However this approach has some massive draw backs in terms of performance. Another idea was using routes to define the importance, what do you guys think about this approach? Li. On 01/11/2012, at 5:13 PM, Daniel O'Connor

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Li Xia
Importance is of most interest. In regional areas where density is much lower, rendering lower class roads earlier on in the zoom level would improve the usability of the map much more. Li. On 01/11/2012, at 5:32 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: You can change how mapnik renders by defining different

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread David Bannon
. As they say in the ALP, disunity is death ! David - Original Message - From: Li Xia To: Cc: Sent:Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:01:11 +1100 Subject:[talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use Hey everyone, have an idea about map rendering and want to get your thoughts. One

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Thread Nathan Van Der Meulen
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[talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-10-31 Thread Li Xia
Hey everyone, have an idea about map rendering and want to get your thoughts. One of the challenges is in rendering a useful map for recreational use is displaying roads, tracks, trails and to some degree water lines at appropriate zoom levels in more remote regions where the density is lower

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-10-31 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. I think tagging for the renderer is a bad idea. Essentially you are talking more about render hints, but I think that becomes a matter of preference pretty fast. Especially when OSM data can be rendered in a number of ways. I think it is worth considering what about a road makes you want to